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[Ice Cold J]

crazyrabbits wrote...

Ice Cold J wrote...

Reinholder wrote...

The thing is this: I'm not interested in a bad ending or a good ending; I merely want a satisfactory conclusion to Mass Effect 3 that fits.

Same here.

I fully expected what appens in 2/3 endings, but none of them REALLY seemed to make sense... quite a bit of backtracking and negating already established premeses.

Forget "negated premises" - it makes all the work you put in over the last two games pointless.

Let me put it this way: it doesn't matter how many sidequests you did, whether you worked to save everyone in ME2's Suicide Mission, how many resources you collected, allies you've made, people you've had to sacrifice...it comes down to the same three choices almost every time. You won't get to find how your choices impacted the galaxy going forwards, especially given the circumstances everyone finds themselves in at the end.

I agree... I just didn't say that much of my opinion.

[JeffreyCor]

Agree completely!! I only wish I had received this warning before finishing the game myself. I kept checking the net to see what in the world I could have done wrong and missed but sadly that wasn't the case. Not playing the last mission is the best advise anyone could possibly give. And given this much of a reaction to the ending I would be very surprised if BioWare doesn't release a 'better' ending sort of along the lines of what was done with Fallout 3 using a DLC to give a different ending.

[Foxhound2020]

SolidBeast wrote...

Foxhound2020 wrote...

Honestly, ya I think I would find it hard to buy a dlc for extra content mid-game with the way the ending is. I can't give you a precise answer why.

Because playing anything before the ending is rendered pointless by the ending once you have experienced it, which means there can be no actual motive to play it?

Yes, some people put that ending to a higher standard while others might put gameplay to a higher standard.

Also, its common for people to subconsciously or psychologically avoid things that disapoint them or make them feel uncomfortable.

[crazyrabbits]

So, just for those keeping track of endings:

Final Fantasy VI (released 1994)

- 16-bit
- 10 different characters involved in the ending (to say nothing of the rest of the planet shown during the ending montage)
- ending that ran a good 15-20 minutes easy
- an ending that can be completed with as few as three characters or as many as all of them
- gives every character a moment to shine
- can be various levels of "complete" based on how many squadmates you recruited (or saved) over the course of the game
- had a definite air of finality to it, but also a strong message of hope and rebuilding
- didn't rely on a deus ex machina, but the organic culmination of the enemy's and the main cast's growth over the game (the squadmates all help each other as they escape)
- 2 secret characters you didn't have to pay for

Mass Effect 3 (released 2012)

- next-gen
- relies on a deus ex machina introduced from nowhere to resolve the plot
- 7 squadmates (almost all of whom disappear during the ending)
- an ending that doesn't really require much effort to get - just play the main plot, and you'll have enough assets to get most of the endings
- your choices don't matter
- the main character rolls over and lets a machine god (who's spouting blatant misinformation, depending on your choices) tell him/her what to do
- ending runs five minutes
- no closure on what happened to almost everyone in the universe
- large swaths of the plot are rendered pointless due to the circumstances the galaxy finds itself in
- one of three endings relies on glorified space magic
- your decisions throughout the first two games have no bearing on the final decision

End of line.

Modifié par crazyrabbits, 11 mars 2012 - 12:53 .

[Trokil]

I should have stopped, I should have read these warnings. Those endings were just so incredible terrible, I can not even describe, how bad this thing ended after 5 years. I even felt a little sick after completing the game.

I was already really disappointed after Dragon Age 2, Star Wars was a mess, but this, this is just terrible. I just don't know what to say.

[Amikae]

Trokil wrote...

I should have stopped, I should have read these warnings. Those endings were just so incredible terrible, I can not even describe, how bad this thing ended after 5 years. I even felt a little sick after completing the game.

I was already really disappointed after Dragon Age 2, Star Wars was a mess, but this, this is just terrible. I just don't know what to say.

I'm sorry, I'm really really sorry, but you made me chuckle. It was like that with me and it will be like that with almost everyone.

[CELL55]

But when all of the spoiler-objects that are integral to the game universe are destroyed in all of the endings (Yes, even the 'Control' ending has these spoiler-objects destroyed, if you look closely enough, the Catalyst even says that all the choices will destroy these spoiler-objects).
And without these spoiler objects, everyone is stranded. The crew of the Normandy is too small to support a sustainable population, and thus will likely be forced to fall into incest or starve. Stranded quarians and turians will likely starve, or fall into cannibalism. And every single planet that has either been too depopulated by war or had too little populations to begin with too survive independently.
It's not that the endings are bittersweet, it's that they have no hope. Nearly everyone you've ever met will die in abject squalor.
Great, huh?

[cabbagered]

Somewhere out there exsists a version of me who did not watch the last season of Buffy, the last episode of Lost, and did not finish ME3.  Lucky so-and-so.  Hate that guy.

But seriously, I would have been happier with the series had I just said "The End" and few hours before the game was over and just left things in the hanging. 

[kglaser]

Hearing how much the ending supposedly blows just makes me want to play it through all the more, because now I'm really curious!!

[Spectre_Shepard]

I didn't believe the warnings.

I was sure that it was just a bunch of whiny fanboys. Honestly I was. I thought I'd be the one to truly appreciate what bioware accomplished.

But I was wrong. The endings..... I don't even know anymore.

[Terrifyer]

I'm actually now looking forward to the ending, because in my ~25 years of gaming this is the first time I've ever heard of an ending so bad that people called on the developers to go back and fix it after the fact, i.e an ending so legendarily bad it's good, but for all the wrong reasons.

[ironcreed2]

Well, the game is just getting better and better for me. The ending is going to have to be absolutely abysmal in order to sour my experience even a little.

[Pheonix57]

You know it's bad if people are willing to pay for DLC to fix a part of the game that they've already paid for.

[PiEman]

ironcreed2 wrote...

Well, the game is just getting better and better for me. The ending is going to have to be absolutely abysmal in order to sour my experience even a little.

Oh you poor, poor soul...

[cabbagered]

Spectre_Shepard wrote...

I was sure that it was just a bunch of whiny fanboys. Honestly I was. I thought I'd be the one to truly appreciate what bioware accomplished.

But I was wrong. The endings..... I don't even know anymore.

Exactly!  "Oh look, it's the 'I'm your biggest fan but' group at it again.  Did the game's ending screw up the books?  Did Tali's gun switch hands in a cut scene?"

I would have been so very wrong.  I played through the game growing increasingly excited to see what would happen with my renegade character.  Now I just cannot see the point in playing again.  Such a mystifying choice on Bioware's part.

[ironcreed2]

PiEman wrote...

ironcreed2 wrote...

Well, the game is just getting better and better for me. The ending is going to have to be absolutely abysmal in order to sour my experience even a little.

Oh you poor, poor soul...

Why, because I am enjoying the game, or because you think I am in for a rude awakening or something?

[Lucy Glitter]

^ Don't spoil the poor sod

ironcreed2 wrote...

Well, the game is just getting better and better for me. The ending is going to have to be absolutely abysmal in order to sour my experience even a little.

Yeesh...

Modifié par Lucy_Glitter, 11 mars 2012 - 05:16 .

[PiEman]

ironcreed2 wrote...

PiEman wrote...

ironcreed2 wrote...

Well, the game is just getting better and better for me. The ending is going to have to be absolutely abysmal in order to sour my experience even a little.

Oh you poor, poor soul...

Why, because I am enjoying the game, or because you think I am in for a rude awakening or something?

Because I've read dozens of posts already about people who had the same attitude as you did right up until the last five or ten minutes of the game, then had their spirits totally crushed and replay-value shattered.

[ironcreed2]

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

^ Don't spoil the poor sod

ironcreed2 wrote...

Well, the game is just getting better and better for me. The ending is going to have to be absolutely abysmal in order to sour my experience even a little.

Yeesh...

Is there something wrong with the fact that I am enjoying the game more as I go along?

[ironcreed2]

PiEman wrote...

ironcreed2 wrote...

PiEman wrote...

ironcreed2 wrote...

Well, the game is just getting better and better for me. The ending is going to have to be absolutely abysmal in order to sour my experience even a little.

Oh you poor, poor soul...

Why, because I am enjoying the game, or because you think I am in for a rude awakening or something?

Because I've read dozens of posts already about people who had the same attitude as you did right up until the last five or ten minutes of the game, then had their spirits totally crushed and replay-value shattered.

LOL, yeah, so I have been seeing as well. All I can comment on is what I have played, and other than some long loading times and frame drops on the PS3, it is so far so good.

[PiEman]

ironcreed2 wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

^ Don't spoil the poor sod

ironcreed2 wrote...

Well, the game is just getting better and better for me. The ending is going to have to be absolutely abysmal in order to sour my experience even a little.

Yeesh...

Is there something wrong with the fact that I am enjoying the game more as I go along?

No, that part's actually pretty common.

Just...just get back to us when you reach the end.

[Errai]

I did my best not to read anything close to spoilers about the game and up until the final five minutes I had thought that this was easily the best game of the series. Then I got to the ending. I honestly wish I had read all the spoilers I could to prepare myself for how awful this was. The only benefit to it was I got a chuckle out of them blatantly ripping off the ending to DE:HR, but even that was tempered by disappointment.

[TheKillerAngel]

ironcreed2 wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

^ Don't spoil the poor sod

ironcreed2 wrote...

Well, the game is just getting better and better for me. The ending is going to have to be absolutely abysmal in order to sour my experience even a little.

Yeesh...

Is there something wrong with the fact that I am enjoying the game more as I go along?

No, there isn't anything wrong with it, but it means that if you don't like the ending, the fall for you will be even harder.

[ironcreed2]

I don't want to rush the experience at all, but this has me so damn curious. Because I am finding the meat of the game so good that it is just hard to believe that I am going to get hit in the balls that hard at the end. If it is anywhere near as bad as I am hearing, then all I can say is they must have dropped the ball something fierce in order to mess up the rest that is otherwise great.

[DxWill103]

The climax was incredible, all the way til the final cut scene.

After the cut scene, the entirety of BSN said a collective What is this I don't even-

Seriously, the game is amazing. When you look at it outside the box, the positives vastly outweigh the con (only 1 imo) But when that con is a seemingly random ending that was not only not meaningful, it wasn't even relevant. Such a shame. Like Cheez said, points for trying. You really can't doubt their effort or boldness. They tried, which is more than most companies can say.

It's just unfortunate that they failed. But if you don't try, you can't succeed so I credit them for that. They likely knew this would be the result (how could they not), yet they tried for success anyway.

But then again, I just finished the game 9 minutes ago and am still trying to process what I just saw, so my opinion is shaky at best.

Modifié par DxWill103, 11 mars 2012 - 05:29 .