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[Menethra]

Olueq wrote...

That ending makes me lose any motivation to play a mass effect game again. Thats quite a feat. I didnt think it was possible to screw up the franchise THAT badly.

Agreed, they built a briliant and enjoyable series in mass effect but the ending to shepards story was underwhelming

[I can Hackett]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

G3rman wrote...

Weren't you arguing it wasn't so bad a few days before release Cheez?

Quite the turnaround.

It's different when you experience it yourself.

With all the time, money, and emotion I've invested in the series, I'm left feeling hurt, confused, and cheated.

I'm actually writing an alternate ending as we speak, one that accounts for player choice and the flavor of the series far better than what we got.  I'm cutting out the parts that added nothing or just confused the narrative, and filling the holes with stuff that would provide the player, or at least myself, with proper closure and a feeling of accomplishment.

Send me a copy of that too

[Dionkey]

jreezy wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

Do yourself a favour and stop playing the game before the final mission; wait for an ending patch, because it's terrible and made me hate Mass Effect, BioWare, and my life.

Fixed. This sounds more appropriate. Making assumptions about others doesn't really do your claim any good.

It's not unanimous, or anything, but I think this stands as a testament to how the majority perceives the ending: 
http://social.biowar...63/polls/29084/

[Dionkey]

andy69156915 wrote...

Dionkey wrote...
At least End of Evangelion closed it up definitively, although it was very depressing. The ending of ME3 was not only depressing, but it was extremely rushed and closed nearly nothing up.
Also, the evidence seems to point to the idea that the Evangelion Rebuilds are actually sequels. 

No no, not Rebuild, Retake. BIG difference. Retake was a fan doujin made by a huge fan of the series that very well matched the artstyle, dialog style, and everything about the main series. There's 2 versions, one where the sex scenes are actually shown, and an "all ages" version for people that don't want scenes like that in something they're reading. Trust me, it's not really a hentai or anything. I would go with the H version, it seems to fit better with those scenes. It's EXTREMELY well done, and gives a far more respectable end then End did.

Funny thing though, it's still a mind screw. Example, small spoilers but... End wasn't even truly overwritten by Retake. You'll see what I mean if you read it.

http://www.mangaupda...es.html?id=5059

Look it up and read if you're a fan, you. Will. Love. It. You ask me, Retake is canon. Anyone who says otherwise can go suck a cactus.

Wow, and I thought that I had read every relevant Eva doujin out there. Thanks, man.

[Rabbi Satan]

If anything, ME3 will go down in gaming history as a textbook example in game development of how to screw up a franchise's worth of character development, plot progression, and so on and so forth, by building up a game and hype surrounding it around character choice and "your" choice - and blow it all up (You maniacs!), literally, and finish it off by changing the explosions' colours from red/green/blue.

It actually makes sense if the ultimate aim of Bioware was to troll its fans, in which case, I salute them. As that was probably what Gainax and Anno were doing with EoE, seeing how the latter, and probable some of the staff of the former, were receiving death threats and their offices vandalized on how badly they handled the series' last 2 episodes.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bioware, on trying to milk the cash cow for all its worth, and on the urgings of EA, try to play with the emotions of the fans, and take some hints from Gainax, and announce "The End of Mass Effect", and later on, "Rebuild of Mass Effect"!


...oh god, WHAT HAVE I DONE?!

[Heather Cline]

I saw the endings to FF13-2 and Bioware did pretty much what they did in FF13-2 with their endings in ME3. In the 100% perfect play through of FF13-2 and the secret ending it was crappy. Main female character dies, main bad guy supposedly dies but comes back. The world ends... it was crap.

They did the same here. Shepard mostly dies in all but 1 ending. Shepard cannot be with crew and LI after everything goes to hell. No matter what you do, you don't even get remotely a decent ending in the one where Shepard survives it all.

Frankly the whole BS of "It's not the destination that matters but the journey" is a load of crap. Thing is if the destination is crap the journey doesn't matter because when you get to where you're going it pretty much just tells you that your entire trip meant nothing.

Same thing in life. If those of you who believe in an afterlife found out that there was no afterlife, then it would say "You're life meant nothing. All you did meant nothing," which pretty much states that you got boned and you suck.

This is why I didn't pick up a copy of FF13-2 this is also why I debated on getting ME3 to complete my Shepard's story. I still got it but that's because I wanted to see my Shepard have that happy ending. However I know the spoilers and I saw them but I hoped that the one perfect play through with the secret ending would change that. It didn't. Seriously this is why I'm not buying anymore Bioware games for a while. I'd rather buy a JRPG or replay DA:O. At least this way I have something I do enjoy.

Modifié par Heather Cline, 10 mars 2012 - 03:15 .

[Crackseed]

I'm a pretty big fan of Bioware's work and generally support or defend most of their actions. But even I have to admit, everything in ME3 up till the final minutes had me enjoying the game. I was hooked. And the final 5 minutes just...completely sapped the will to replay the game again immediately after finishing it. I realize this is my opinion solely and wish it to be known that way, but there was no genuine closure or even satisfaction to the way this story has closed and that saddens me.

When you go from some of the awesome scenes [Geth/Quarian conflict, Garrus/Shep hanging out on the Presidium, etc] to the way this story concludes, just. Meh. Sorry Bioware, I can't support you on this one - I expected a much more satisfying, or at least, complete ending.

[cljqnsnyc]

You have to give them credit though. Would anyone believe it was possible to lay waste to an entire series in just a few short minutes?

Genius

[lady_v23]

Too late. just finished it. And as much as i hate the ending i cried (control) I understand that they wanted to be realistic and for civilians to see the seriousness of war.   But this is a video game if i wanted extreme realisim i would read a war documentary.   Oddly enough..i feel nothing. I'm not sure if that's a good thing.

[RocketManSR2]

Okay, I'm back. Ummmmm...wow. I don't know what to say. That certainly isn't how I would have ended the series, but it also wasn't my choice to make. It's what BioWare wanted and I won't go into some stupid hate-filled rant about EA rushing BioWare to get the game out earlier. There is no proof. I would just look foolish. Like another poster said, it is what it is. I'll still enjoy the ride. I'm pretty sure there won't be any post-game DLC, though.......call it a hunch.

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 10 mars 2012 - 03:20 .

[Painaid]

Wish I had heard this advice before I finished.

[Soulglow]

 One question. Is it worse than Battlestar Galactica?

[andb52]

Soulglow wrote...

 One question. Is it worse than Battlestar Galactica?

Whew, that's a tought call. But yes, I think it is (as hard as it is to believe) actually worse than BSG's ending.

[cljqnsnyc]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Okay, I'm back. Ummmmm...wow. I don't know what to say. That certainly isn't how I would have ended the series, but it also wasn't my choice to make. It's what BioWare wanted and I won't go into some stupid hate-filled rant about EA rushing BioWare to get the game out earlier. There is no proof. I would just look stupid. Like another poster said, it is what it is. I'll still enjoy the ride. I'm pretty sure there won't be any post-game DLC, though.......call it a hunch.

Part of the problem is it should have been your choice to make. Wasn't that what the whole thing was supposedly about?

[Luvinn]

Dionkey wrote...

Do yourself a favour and stop playing the game before the final mission; wait for an ending patch, because it's terrible and will make you hate Mass Effect, BioWare, and your life.

Sad but true. I would be replaying it again if I haven't. Oh well, someday they will make brain bleach!

[Xarathox]

cljqnsnyc wrote...

You have to give them credit though. Would anyone believe it was possible to lay waste to an entire series in just a few short minutes?

Genius

I wouldn't call it genius, more like dumb luck.

[G3rman]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Okay, I'm back. Ummmmm...wow. I don't know what to say. That certainly isn't how I would have ended the series, but it also wasn't my choice to make. It's what BioWare wanted and I won't go into some stupid hate-filled rant about EA rushing BioWare to get the game out earlier. There is no proof. I would just look stupid. Like another poster said, it is what it is. I'll still enjoy the ride. I'm pretty sure there won't be any post-game DLC, though.......call it a hunch.

Of course there won't be post-game DLC, that's the entire point of putting you back before the final mission if you try to continue the game.

[meisjoe]

 If only I'd seen this post about four hours ago...  I'm still dumbstruck.  A game defined by choices, and they basically give you one ending - that has no meaningful relationship whatsoever to any of your choices.  GAHHH!  Come on Bioware!  Release a DLC with extended/alternate endings!  At this point, I'd be willing to gladly pay another $50 for it.

[cljqnsnyc]

Xarathox wrote...

cljqnsnyc wrote...

You have to give them credit though. Would anyone believe it was possible to lay waste to an entire series in just a few short minutes?

Genius

I wouldn't call it genius, more like dumb luck.

Maybe...but it's quite extraordianry when you think about it

...or a very underhanded and shameless way to push DLC.

Unscrupulous

Modifié par cljqnsnyc, 10 mars 2012 - 03:24 .

[RocketManSR2]

The team agreed that would be how the story ended, whether we like it or not.

[RocketManSR2]

meisjoe wrote...

 If only I'd seen this post about four hours ago...  I'm still dumbstruck.  A game defined by choices, and they basically give you one ending - that has no meaningful relationship whatsoever to any of your choices.  GAHHH!  Come on Bioware!  Release a DLC with extended/alternate endings!  At this point, I'd be willing to gladly pay another $50 for it.

SHHHHHHHH!!!

[ashwind]

Although I have not reached the ending, I have seen it. I am enjoying myself greatly currently. Everything is great thus far and I am totally enjoying my last journey regardless of what the destination maybe. The atmosphere of the story and the combat is EPIC,

The fact that people are so emotional about Shepard's endings is a testament to the greatness and success of the ME series.

[Dionkey]

meisjoe wrote...

 If only I'd seen this post about four hours ago...  I'm still dumbstruck.  A game defined by choices, and they basically give you one ending - that has no meaningful relationship whatsoever to any of your choices.  GAHHH!  Come on Bioware!  Release a DLC with extended/alternate endings!  At this point, I'd be willing to gladly pay another $50 for it.

Are you that weak-willed? I love Mass Effect and all, but there's no way I would pay BioWare to correct a terrible ending, let alone the price of the game itself.