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[Biotic Sage]

GennadiosMxms wrote...

No, the real problem with the endings is that everything Shepherd fought 5 years for was made null and moot by the endings. One of the endings came sort of close to being proper, but I'm not very happy with what it did to the Geth and EDI.

I don't think many people really expected survival.

You aren't happy with what it did to them, but "Many decisions lie ahead.  None of them easy."  That's the cost of getting rid of the Reapers once and for all.  And while I didn't want to harm EDI or the Geth personally, I still made that decision.  And that's why it's a great ending.  Because there's no easy decision, you agonize over them all.

[Archereon]

Psychologically speaking, Shepard having the option of living in the other endings would have come across as quite a bit more hopeful, and would have prompted people to adopt more optimistic interpretations of the fate of the Normandy's crew. The principle difference between Deus Ex's ending and ME3's was that Shepard dies. JC lives in every ending of DX.

[picodeath123]

I'm hoping for the it's a dream while you are knocked out and the choice that leads to the breathing scene is you waking up, and your team getting stranded is your minds way of mirroring the fact that you did it to save them and that is why they landed on a beautiful planet to live another day....

But it is just wishful thinking.

Didn't hate the endings, they just left a lot of questions I would think would be answered at the end of a trilogy.

[hawat333]

Shepard lives.
At least in my ending. I guess you just have to do it right.

But anyways, I love the ending. It's bittersweet. It was perfect, I expected an all sunshine and bunnies fairytale ending, and... got this.

On the other hand, they felt like they were cut. For example, I'm pretty sure I've had Ash and good ol' Garrus with me at the final charge, so how the heck did Ash get on the Normandy?
Things like that didn't really make a lot of sense.
But the concept of the ending, oh, I loved that.

[masseffectinglife]

Also our choices never meant anything. Do the Korgan recover? Do the Rachni sing again? Do Tali and Garrus have babies? There are story elements we made and chose and they never pay off.

[Militarized]

I was ready for Shepard to die... HOW he died and the reason for it is anticlimatic at the least, and disturbing/character assassination at the worst. It is not heroic to accept what the ENEMY is saying to you as logical and go with their choices. Blow that **** up and take their shields down and reap some reapers.

On a more serious note, I was OK with Shep dying even if it would destroy my Jack romance if it was an epic sacrafice. The problem is the ending is not epic, your choices are not varied you just choose which color light you'd like for the essentially the same ending 2/3rds of the time with 1/3rd making no sense through extra convenient space magic.

[Faraborne]

The problem is a compound of many things which includes the inevitability of Shepherd's death. However, I think that is a minor contribution to a completely messed up, confusing, inconsistent, out of place, and self-contradicting ending.

[wolfsite]

JesseLee202 wrote...

So Shep lives in the renegade ending if you have wicked high assets... It still leaves hope for him to rescue his team and LI.

I doubt it, Shepard is stranded in space with no atmosphere and almost everyone beleives he.she died on earth (You can hear people screaming it on the radio)  Shepard would die of Asphixiation before anyonr would find him/her.

[masseffectinglife]

Or how about the issue, Shepard who is a Paragon, never fights for the lost when he meets the little boy at the end. it's all about just getting to the end of the story, not about having the character act as he has for the entire game. Thinking of others, trying to find a way to win without death.

[dragonator89]

KingNothing125 wrote...

There are several problems with the endings. Shepard dying being one of them.

I agree. Another problem is Shepard not being able to reunite with his/her LI

Modifié par dragonator89, 10 mars 2012 - 02:09 .

[Deztyn]

I was fine with the ending up until Shepard collapsed and met the Glowy God Child. Before that... I honestly thought that was the ending. Just her and Anderson dying on the Citadel together with a front row seat for the end of the Reapers. I had the passing thought that the Crucible would make the Citadel go Boom after. Or at the very least Shepard would bleed out. And I still thought it was awesome. Just two people who had done everything they could to save humanity finally sitting back and watching the end. Mission Complete.

What actually happened... I don't even have the words to describe my feelings on the ending.

[x-Killision-X]

i won't beat around the bush. Yes I have a problem with not being able to save my sheppard. I want my sheppard to put multiple bullets in the Illusive man and to stand on top of a dead reaper and scream in victory! We got the triumphant ending in Mass Effect 1&2. So why not now. Is my ending chessy, sure why not, but at least i would have chosen to end it that way.

[Spatchmo]

I would have loved to see what happened with my choices in the game without a deus ex machina intervention, even if in the form of place cards. The endings to Dragon Age Origins and Awakening were in the form of place cards but they still felt fulfilling because what you did during the game would change the text so much.

What happened with the geth and quarians sharing a planet? Did the krogan become hostile again? Did the rachni? Did being a paragon make the galaxy a better place?

The endings were just a huge disappointment. Also in Dragon Age: Origins... You can have the warden die, but it's your choice and it makes for the most powerful ending in the game... But I like having the option to have happy Disney endings if I want them. It gives the game replayability,

[Teddie Sage]

Death is one thing. But the ending was so badly executed that it left a bitter taste of shame in my mouth.

[phoenixds24]

 My problem with the endings (I've only gotten one so far) is that, in my opinion, all the choices are false choices.  You get the kid saying "You have these three options and these only.  It must be this way, there is no other choice."  That's complete bull.  It's already been proven that synthetics and organics DO NOT HAVE TO FIGHT.  The geth are cooperating with organics by the end if you play your cards right, which makes the entire arguement of imposing order on a chaotic system destined to annihilate itself null and void.

The entire premise upon which these decisions are based is flawed.  Therefore the choices themselves are flawed.  In effect, the only reason to make any of these specific choices is because you're told they're the only ones.  It is complete and utter story railroading at its worst.  While it's true that within game design, we always are only given the choices the designers have chosen to give us, but in this case they are blatantly false choices.  The game design has, in this case, taken all meaning out of the choices we have.

The Mass Effect series was incredible... and then managed to make itself horrible in only 10 minutes.  This is truly one of the worst endings I have ever seen in a video game.  Bioware should be ashamed of themselves.

[Genun]

I'm fine with Shepard dieing. A little sad he doesn't get the beach house with Tali, but fine. I just want an explination about what happens to everyone after I make my choice. Also shepard can live through it.

[masseffectinglife]

Time for a hilter Rant, lol

http://www.youtube.c...v=_qYm738hq1o#!

[astrophyzcs]

wolfsite wrote...

JesseLee202 wrote...

So Shep lives in the renegade ending if you have wicked high assets... It still leaves hope for him to rescue his team and LI.

I doubt it, Shepard is stranded in space with no atmosphere and almost everyone beleives he.she died on earth (You can hear people screaming it on the radio)  Shepard would die of Asphixiation before anyonr would find him/her.

lolwut. When do you hear these supposed cries that Shepard is dead on the radio? Maybe I missed that bit.

Anyway, to the OP. I expected (having not spoiled myself) that the possibility of Shepard dying was a strong one. I was prepared for that. I could see my Shepard going out in a blaze of glory, because she always said as much herself: she'd do anything to save the galaxy, even if it meant sacrificing herself. My problem is this: the fact that every. single. ending. has Shepard dying in the end. (Barring destroy--and the ridiculous premise that Shepard survives that after already being seriously wounded beforehand--especially with the Citadel going kabloom). There is no alternative to that. 

To add salt to the already stinging wound, you're presented with three equally nonsensical options that have no place in the ME galaxy. That's my biggest problem. And don't even get me started on Joker and the crew running from the battle with their tails in between their legs.  Every single one of them were like Shepard in that they would've died for the cause. Fought tooth and nail until their last breath. It simply does not make sense. Not to mention that if your LI was with you during the mad dash to the Crucible, they're still magically alive and well on this new Eden. 

what is this I don't even

Modifié par astrophyzcs, 10 mars 2012 - 02:17 .

[GBGriffin]

phoenixds24 wrote...


The Mass Effect series was incredible... and then managed to make itself horrible in only 10 minutes.  This is truly one of the worst endings I have ever seen in a video game.  Bioware should be ashamed of themselves.

What I don't understand is that: didn't the leaked script have a happier ending by comparison? One where, I thought, Anderson and the LI pull you out of some rubble? I didn't read it at the time because I was avoiding spoilers.

Who the hell thought this would be better or preferable over that!? Just had to slap that one on in only one of the endings, that's it!

Modifié par GBGriffin, 10 mars 2012 - 02:19 .

[frylock23]

You know, my husband pointed out that using the relays to send out giant waves of species affecting and changing energy is sort of a rip-off of Stargate SG-1 in its later seasons.

[Immortanius]

masseffectinglife wrote...

100+ hours getting to know the characters and more importantly, caring about them and to have no closure.
I thought ME3 was about Shepard and how he impacts the world and people around him. To end the game the way it was, do not resolve or conclude or even show the impact Shepard had on the larger world, or more importantly the other characters. It's disappointing to say the least. The rest of the game was brilliant and I was cheering so many times. But the ending really damaged it.

This, so much. This is what has me down about it as well. For years, we've come to know and love these characters. And then it just....stops. No explanations, nothing. I wish so much that the ending consisted of Shepard surviving, as well as his crew(pending your decisions), and that you could continue on after the end of the story to reap the benefits and enjoy a universe devoid of the Reaper threat. That would totally bring together all three games and a sense of accomplishment would come from that. But what we got instead was....Man, I just can't put it into words how disheartening and depressing it is now.

But oh well. Life does go on. 

[movieguyabw]

Shepard definitely should be able to survive. The fact that there's only one ending where they live is really sucky.

But as many other people have stated, that's not the main issue.

I'm fine with there being a few endings where Shepard dies. There shouldn't be so many endings devoted to it, though.

As for everything else, though. The Guardian sequence should not have been in the game. As a writer and film student, I find it to be contrived. Philosophically, I detest and disagree with it. As a gamer who has put in well over 200+ hours to this character, I feel cheated.

[masseffectinglife]

When the relay was destroyed in Arrival, it destroyed a system. and all of them went off? Come on for continuity

[Rawgrim]

The real problem with the endings is that none of them took into consideration the choices I made during the entire series. No matter what I did during my playthroughs, it would have ended the same anyway.

[wolfsite]

astrophyzcs wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

JesseLee202 wrote...

So Shep lives in the renegade ending if you have wicked high assets... It still leaves hope for him to rescue his team and LI.

I doubt it, Shepard is stranded in space with no atmosphere and almost everyone beleives he.she died on earth (You can hear people screaming it on the radio)  Shepard would die of Asphixiation before anyonr would find him/her.

lolwut. When do you hear these supposed cries that Shepard is dead on the radio? Maybe I missed that bit.

When Shepard was just coming too I know I heard someone screaming Shepards dead..... I'm not going to check though..... Can't bring myself to play the game again after that.