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[Maugrim]

From someone who never has and never will romance Jacob and is my least liked character (I don't hate him, he's just on the bottom of the list for me) you have my sympathies, for whatever it's worth You got by far the worst treatment of all the romances.

[TheLostGenius]

 Please don't state your opinions as facts.

I like Morinth more than Samara. Jacob is alright. ME2 had too many characters...

[young fox]

HJF4 wrote...

I really have to wonder why they did this.
Did they just want female Shepards to go to Kaidan/Garrus instead, or even the F/F options?

They wanted everyone with a ME2 romance to go the way of the ME1 "canon" romances. It's why Garrus, Liara, Ashley, Kaidan and Tali are the only one with worthwhile romances in ME3.

Everyone else got the dumpster-treatment.

Modifié par su66otnik, 10 mars 2012 - 04:26 .

[StarYukiko]

You have my support. Couldn't romance Jacob though, felt like such a sex-offender
But I still think he's a good guy in ME2.

[HK-90210]

TheLostGenius wrote...

 Please don't state your opinions as facts.

I like Morinth more than Samara. Jacob is alright. ME2 had too many characters...

The general population considers Jacob a better character than Morinth. This is shown in every squadmate popularity poll I've seen. More than enough evidence to call it fact. I never stated that it was the opinion I held, nor did I state that there were people who didn't feel contrary to the general population.

Modifié par CastonFolarus, 10 mars 2012 - 04:33 .

[elooocin]

I do not think it is too far out from his personality to do this. Jacob, in ME2, was very impulsive & reckless to me. He is the one who wanted to race off for the IFF before you were ready, he is the one who wants to go do tech things in a tunnel when he is the least qualified to do it. So for him to cheat on Fem Shep & race off into another romance right away? Sadly seems fitting. :/

[ADLegend21]

CastonFolarus wrote...

Every one of us can aknowledge that Jacob Taylor is the least popular squadmate in ME2(except Morinth). Heck, his own fanbase admits it, and is even proud of it. But this is no excuse for the poor handling of Jacob Taylor's romance in ME3.

For those of you who do not know, a romanced Jacob ends up cheating on Shepard during the six months she is in Alliance custody, with a woman that he later says is pregnant, and he intends to make a life with. This is what the November leaks indicated, and I didn't believe them. I couldn't fathom how Bioware would treat an entire fanbase, along with a character with a lot of potential, like trash. But I've now played thorugh the parts with Jacob in ME3, and it's all true. Every word of it.

Jacob Taylor was presented as a good, stable man in ME2. His romance was unique in a lot of different ways, including the fact that he offered Shepard the chance to vent(a trait only shared with Liara in ME2), and the fact that he was the only one of them to say, point blank, that he loved Shepard. These were things that were worth following up on, but Bioware decided not to. Why, I can't fathom. I see no good reason to treat the people who romanced Jacob this way.

There isn't a silver lining to be found in it, this is simply a horrible way to treat a character and a fanbase. And there were no warning signs of this kind of thing happening. With Thane's romance, people knew they were getting a dying LI. With the VS, people knew there were going to be trust issues heading into ME3. With Jacob, people headed into ME3 expecting the man who was source of stability and calm and who loved Shepard. Not a man who hooks up with another woman after being unable to hook up with Shepard for a few months.


It would not have been a difficult thing to give him an ending akin to Jack or Miranda's romances. Something that fit what the romance was from the start(flirty, based on sexual chemistry, but also with an innate understanding of one another). Jacob as a character was worth that amount of effort. Jacob's fans were worth that amount of effort. And the fact that they weren't given that disappoints me more than any of the endings ever could.

Add me to this. I feel betrayed by the ME eam because of this. Is pent months on thsi forum touting how Jacob was the overall BEST LI (not that he was my favorite, but in fact the BEST for Shepard) and now I feel like I've been made a liar since he goes from being the only LI to say I love you at that point in the series to being the ONLY LI to CHEAT at the end of it. all my words mean nothing now since h's now the WORST love interest who cheats on his lover a point where she needs as much support as she can get. I converted several people to do his romance fully and they enjoyed it, made fan art and video's and stories, and they they won't even play their Jacobmancers because they don't want their Shepard's to get their hearts broken, same with me, my Jacobmancer Kat Shepard will NOT be imported to Mass Effect 3 because this would kill her. Jacob has doomed the galaxy in my game with his affair and now commitment to Brynne Cole.

[revan11exile]

Man i had high hopes for the Jacob romance with my femShep,the only thing i was worried about was they would kill him off but they just let him see another women to have a kid o well guess my femShep is going for Sam or Diana lol

[CheeseEnchilada]

PrinceLionheart wrote...

Honestly, I think the only reason they did this was because it was Jacob. Sad truth is, Bioware wouldn't have pulled this #*$@ with Garrus or Tali's character.

This pretty much sums it up, though it doesn't explain why they thought, of all things they could choose, him knocking up another woman was the best way to end the relationship. I'd love to hear that explanation.

I will take solace in the fact that Jacob will die a hero, crawling through the vents and giving his life so that others may live. Actively killing off your LI in ME2 to get a more satisfying romance conclusion--never thought I'd see the day.

[Raiil]

CastonFolarus wrote...



And to to be honest, I don't think Jack, Miranda or Thane get the shaft to the degree that Jacob does. I think Bioware does justice to them as characters, and honors their roamnces admirably. They could have had a little more dialogue with all of them, certainly. But hey, they aren't squamdates, so there's only so much they can put in.

Sorry, but while Jacob's was, indeed, horrifically done and in my opinion the worst, the other ME-2 origin LIs got horribly shafted and in the case of Thane, they handled his personality with the finesse and skill of a six ton brick. And then they slapped on the letter 90% of us have already seen like that made it 'okay'.


BioWare handled all of them badly, and they need to know that.

[foundthisway]

i just ran through the ME3 game for tali's romance i didnt see jacob or jack..did see miranda..didnt see thane,ziead,samara,kasomi

dont think i spelt the names right lol

but this is BS theres already enough bugs in the game to screw with game play wtf

Modifié par foundfukedup, 10 mars 2012 - 05:56 .

[foundthisway]

omg i just laugh my ass off at BW.....ME3 is going down to ground zero

[HK-90210]

Valentia X wrote...
Sorry, but while Jacob's was, indeed, horrifically done and in my opinion the worst, the other ME-2 origin LIs got horribly shafted and in the case of Thane, they handled his personality with the finesse and skill of a six ton brick. And then they slapped on the letter 90% of us have already seen like that made it 'okay'.


BioWare handled all of them badly, and they need to know that.

Well, I disagree. But then, I'm comparing all ME2-origin LI's stories to Jacob's, and pretty much anything could be considered good when compared to that, so....

[ADLegend21]

the more I think about it the angrier I get. this sucks.

[Raiil]

CastonFolarus wrote...

Valentia X wrote...
Sorry, but while Jacob's was, indeed, horrifically done and in my opinion the worst, the other ME-2 origin LIs got horribly shafted and in the case of Thane, they handled his personality with the finesse and skill of a six ton brick. And then they slapped on the letter 90% of us have already seen like that made it 'okay'.


BioWare handled all of them badly, and they need to know that.

Well, I disagree. But then, I'm comparing all ME2-origin LI's stories to Jacob's, and pretty much anything could be considered good when compared to that, so....

Yeah, like I said- Jacob's was the worst. But not being the absolute bottom of the barrel doesn't mean it was done justice. 

[sorentoft]

k3ttch wrote...

And it was just some random woman. Why couldn't he have cheated on her with Kasumi?

Yeah. What the hell, Jacob?

[spirosz]

Really? Wow, that feels way out of character for him... that's not what I expected from his romance. I admit though, Bioware really dropped the ball on all the romances, surprising to because usually their character development is great throughout games, compared to story, but I guess that was back in the Baldur's Gate era, sadly.

[Militarized]

Levvi wrote...

Militarized wrote...

To be fair, at least he's upfront about it and you can move onto someone else. Thane and Jack it's like... it's there but there's no conclusion/closure, which is almost worse IMO.

Maybe that's my bias talking.

What happens with Jack? I romaned Thane ^^

You have a good introduction scene with good interaction at Grissom Academy... and then she disappears. Poof. Then you get en e-mail to meet her at the Citadel.. where instead of being all happy to see him because.. you know.. he helped drag her up from the abyss of isolation and abuse to show people really care she nonchalantly is all "So... you still wanna do this?" After all the effort in ME2.. of course. Say yes, then she says ok no strings attached. Admittedly there is a good line of "You make the worst mistakes.." before kissing him but people who do not romance her get pretty much the same scene without the kiss. 

Then she disappears for the rest of the game until the 8 second holovid at the very end. No cabin scene, no private scenes... nothing, no closure or culmination. 

[Arlionis]

Maera Imrov wrote...

Lucy_Glitter wrote...

1. It's completely out of character
2. It's stereotyping him to the max

Just terrible. Most ME2 romances were handled horribly. 

This.

I liked Jacob. I couldn't ever romance him because I just didn't find him my Shep's type, but Jacob was a good man. When he tells me up front he's Cerberus, this is a Cerberus base, this is what's going on, he got major respect points from me. Nothing he ever did in 2 did anything to change my opinion of him in that regard.

Hard not to when the Cerberus logo was plastered all over the base and his uniform. I will never understand why my Sole Survivor Shepard so easily accepts to cooperate with Cerberus. 

[Militarized]

His treatment does almost border on racism... not that I want that to be the case but sheesh.

[Tup3x]

ADLegend21 wrote...

the more I think about it the angrier I get. this sucks.

I totally understand. Even Shepard who didn't romance Jacob was clearly a bit surprised.

[HK-90210]

Added a group link to the OP. Maybe if we get enough people, Bioware might listen to us. At the very least, they can offer an explanation. Not that any they offer will excuse this, but they could at least own up to what they've done, even if they won't change it.

[Raizo]

I can't believe that Bioware did that. I know that Jacob wasn't exactly a very popular character but every character in the ME Universe has a fan base and this is very dis-respectful to all the Jacob fans out there.