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[Raiil]

CastonFolarus wrote...

Valentia X wrote...

I didn't begrudge or really question Jacob's baby/family thing, as people don't get celibate in the middle of a war (quite the opposite I think in some cases XD).

The whole Normandy comment didn't really strike me until you pointed it out, though. My Shepard does love the Normandy and it's her home, and her friend since EDI 'is' the Normandy, but her 'love' belongs to the people who stuck with her through the bitter end. And in hindsight, it does seem kind of harsh. And at least my LI died on me, rather than chill on a beach and then knock up some other lady.

The fact that this sentence even exists is more than enough to show that the Jacob and Thane romances have been screwed up.

Yeah, for real. I know Jack and Miranda got some love, but on the whole, there should be a thread called 'Protesting the poor treatment of Mass Effect 2-Origin Romances'. The whole thing is kind of ridiculous.

[Sarah1281]

He would at least make sure that it was over between Femshep and himself before moving on to another woman.

Yeah. He says flat-out that he never expected to see Shepard again, never thought to send a request to meet on the Citadel like everyone else in the galaxy and never thought to email you. Thane sends you dozens of emails until one finally reaches you!

He never expects to see you again, won't look for you, and doesn't even end it. What if you had spent ages refusing to move on because you were being loyal to him? He'd force you to be alone forever (like he thinks you're doomed to anyway so I guess he doesn't care) or feel guilty for "cheating" on him when he'd already secretly ended your relationship.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 11 mars 2012 - 02:48 .

[Sarah1281]

It's even worse when you consider that when you actually die for two years, Kaidan, Ashley, and Liara will not move on and still want to be with you once you miraculously come back (once they wrap their head around the whole Cerberus thing or deal with the Shadow Broker). I don't expect Jacob to wait two years but you were only locked up for six months and he's talking about how he wasn't going to wait forever.

Liara was the only one who had any sort of idea that you coming back was a possibility and she was convinced that you'd hate her for it so she wasn't even holding on because she expected your relationship to continue.

Compared to the dedication of your ME1 love interests, Jacob comes off worse than ever.

And while Dr. Cole seems nice enough in non-romance playthroughs once Jacob comes up she turns into a **** and tells you that Jacob still loves you but is better off with her. Who says things like that?

[DJStarstryker]

This really sucks. I had a feeling they were going to shaft the non-Garrus/Tali ME2 romances once I saw that the ME2 characters pretty much just came back for sidequests. But Jacob's really takes the cake on terrible-ness. It was only 6 months and he didn't even try to contact you. He always seemed like such a loyal guy to me. :/

My main Shep is male, so I couldn't of romanced him anyway, but I thought he was a good guy. I kinda considered Jacob one of my male Shep's good friends thanks to that loyalty.

[TeamLexana]

Aww, I was never a fan of Jacob but I'm sorry for yall. I'd have stabbed a beyatch if they did that to Garrus.

[Militarized]

 You guys really do make me feel bad about ****ing about my lack of Jack in ME3. 

[TeamLexana]

Well bright side, Jacob didn't get space magic'd into the Normandy and crash land in parts unknown.

[HK-90210]

Militarized wrote...

 You guys really do make me feel bad about ****ing about my lack of Jack in ME3. 

It's one of those 'thankful for what you have' moments, eh? Doesn't mean you don't have a reason to be a little miffed, though. And there's nothing inherently wrong with wanting more face time for Jack. She is awsome.

Still...."N7 tat on my ass". God, I was laughing so hard, I missed the damn paragon interupt. Kid you not.

So why could nothing simlilar be done for Jacob, dammit?!

Jacob: So you're gathering forces to take Earth back, huh?
Shepard: Yeah, and it's not going to be easy. Lot of risk involved.
Jacob: *smirk* but the Priii-
*Renegade interupt* Shepard: Don't start with that again, Mr. Taylor! This all just a joke to you?
Jacob: *stops smirking, nods* Yeah, OK. *takes Shepard hands in his* I love you, Shepard. And I'll be waiting for you when this is all done, if you'll still have me. There. That better?
Shepard:....It's a start.
Jacob: OK, let's get those AA cannons up, then. I'll cover you.

Modifié par CastonFolarus, 11 mars 2012 - 07:51 .

[lyssalu]

throwing in here as well. really can't fathom this one. what the ****, bioware?

[Sarah1281]

I hope that we'll at least get an explanation at some point. Jacob doesn't really come across as the mature family man the game is painting him as when he treats Shepard so terribly just a few months prior.

[PineappleSalad]

...This makes me once again thankful that I accidentally opted out of the Jacob romance option in ME2 and was forced to romance Garrus instead. Jacob fans got totally ripped off.

[Jack of Wolves]

...well, Thane goes out like a champ and his death scene was exceedingly poignant. Plus you know, knew going in he was on borrowed time.

..always sorta neutral at best with Jacob as a character.. he had a great Loyalty mission (and his Renegade resolution of "the guns not for THEM was sleek business).. but yeah.. that dialogue is.. cringe-worthy on all counts.

[Sarah1281]

he had a great Loyalty mission

Not that his loyalty is apparently worth a damn thing.

[Lucy Glitter]

Sparatus wrote...

When Bioware half-asses something. They really half-ass it.

^ ^ ^

[Anny78]

CastonFolarus wrote...

....

We need to let Bioware know this kind of character treatment is unaccceptable. Maybe if we get enough people, they might go back and make some changes. Not likely, but possible.

If you want to add your voice to change this assassination of a character, just join this group here: http://social.bioware.com/group/7040/

Joined! You have my full support in this.

I started the series with ME2 and instantly "fell in love" with Joker.  He wasn't romanceable so my 2nd choice was Jacob. I later bought and played also ME1 because of Joker and waited for him to be a romance option in ME3...
and now it seems both my Shepards are gonna be forever alone.

[Serenity84]

Raizo wrote...
Kaidan claims to have moved on and started dating someone else when you meet him on Horizon.

To be fair, everyone thought Shep was dead. For two years. So people moving on makes perfect sense. Except maybe Liara, who eventually figured out that Cerberus was interesed in you

If your LI happened to be single when you met them again and wanted to give it another go, sure, but I don't think anyone can blame them for have a relationship with someone else in the meantime

Modifié par Serenity84, 11 mars 2012 - 12:08 .

[Sarah1281]

Raizo wrote...

Kaidan claims to have moved on and started dating someone else when you meet him on Horizon.

Just so we're clear, what did he say? I could have sworn that he was too busy being thrilled you were alive, then being pissed that you were alive and didn't call, and then being pissed that you were with Cerberus and betraying humanity to mention anything about who he was dating.

There is his letter afterwards which says:

Shepard,

I'm sorry for what I said back on Horizon. I spent two years pulling myself back together after you went down with the Normandy. It took me a long time to get over my guilt for surviving and move on. I'd finally let my friends talk me into going out for drinks with a doctor on the Citadel. Nothing serious, but trying to let myself have a life again, you know?

Then I saw you, and everything pulled hard to port. You were standing in front of me, but you were with Cerberus. I guess I really don't know who either of us is anymore. Do you even remember that night before Ilos? That nigh meant everything to me…maybe it meant as much to you. But a lot has changed in the last two years and I can't just put that aside.

But please be careful. I've watched too many people close to me die – on Eden Prime, on Virmie, on Horizen, on the Normandy. I couldn't bear it if I lost you again. If you're still the woman I remember, I know you'll find a way to stop these Collector attacks. But Cerberus is too dangerous to be trusted. Watch yourself.

When things have settled down a little…maybe…I don't know. Just take care.

-Kaidan

He outright says the drinks aren't serious and are just his friends attempt to make him start living again. And clearly he's not very 'moved on' if you look at his paragraph about his reaction to seeing you. I think it's more about moving on from the guilt and trying to get over a dead woman...and then when she's not dead all that progress goes away.