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[AVPen]

Cosmochyck wrote...

Also, thought I'd drop this off as I'm sure it sums it up nicely.

by soren7550 

Oh god, I seriously laughed my ass off at that one.
(and it reminded me how much I miss "Who's Line Is It Anyway?", both the British and American versions)

Modifié par AVPen, 17 mars 2012 - 04:25 .

[Sable Rhapsody]

PhantomGinger wrote...

And I don't know about the rest of you, but I wanted to punch Brynn she said: "He's better off with me."

Does she really say that to the person who's trying to save the galaxy and just busted her ass to save Jacob, her, and her unborn child?

I was trying not to let what happens to a romanced FemShep and Jacob color my perceptions of her, but seriously f*** that.  Next playthrough they can all burn for all I care.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 17 mars 2012 - 04:41 .

[Sarah1281]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

PhantomGinger wrote...

And I don't know about the rest of you, but I wanted to punch Brynn she said: "He's better off with me."

Does she really say that to the person who's trying to save the galaxy and just busted her ass to save Jacob, her, and her unborn child?

I was trying not to let what happens to a romanced FemShep and Jacob color my perceptions of her, but seriously f*** that.  Next playthrough they can all burn for all I care.

 Oh, it's worse than that. She starts off by admitting that she knew that Jacob was with you but that she went after him anyway. Then she tells you that Jacob still loves you. Shepard rightly demands to know why she would say that and Brynn says it's because she's also going to tell you that Jacob is better off with her now. Not that that actually answers the question at all. And then she gets all pissed if you say you're not going to discuss your relationship with Jacob with her. Because she is terrible.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Sarah1281 wrote...
 Oh, it's worse than that. She starts off by admitting that she knew that Jacob was with you but that she went after him anyway. Then she tells you that Jacob still loves you. Shepard rightly demands to know why she would say that and Brynn says it's because she's also going to tell you that Jacob is better off with her now. Not that that actually answers the question at all. And then she gets all pissed if you say you're not going to discuss your relationship with Jacob with her. Because she is terrible.

...ok, letting her die to Cerberus forces is too good for her.  Boiling in oil?  Covered in molten gold and left as a statue on the Citadel?  

[Visii]

Wanna get loud and tell 'em what how we really feel about what they did to Jacob?

http://social.biowar...ndex/10098213/1

Do it!

Modifié par Visii, 17 mars 2012 - 05:55 .

[Totally Not Swaggacide]

Although not a Jacob fan myself. I must admit you guys got screwed big time.

[HK-90210]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
 Oh, it's worse than that. She starts off by admitting that she knew that Jacob was with you but that she went after him anyway. Then she tells you that Jacob still loves you. Shepard rightly demands to know why she would say that and Brynn says it's because she's also going to tell you that Jacob is better off with her now. Not that that actually answers the question at all. And then she gets all pissed if you say you're not going to discuss your relationship with Jacob with her. Because she is terrible.

...ok, letting her die to Cerberus forces is too good for her.  Boiling in oil?  Covered in molten gold and left as a statue on the Citadel?  

Maybe we should just leave her in a room with the DA2 LIs, who are just as pissed off as we are, and let them do whatever they want to her. Hmmmm.....that sounds like a REALLY bad crossover fanfic on one of the kinkmemes.

It does make me want to go play DA2, though. They didn't pull this kind of crap with their LIs. Well.....they did change Anders just a little less than Jacob, but at least they had a actual reason.

Wait, that's it! Jacob was possesed by a Desire Demon! IT ALL MAKES PERFECT SENSE NOW! We have to save him! We need FemHaw- oh wait.......

[Sable Rhapsody]

CastonFolarus wrote...

Wait, that's it! Jacob was possesed by a Desire Demon! IT ALL MAKES PERFECT SENSE NOW! We have to save him! We need FemHaw- oh wait.......

You almost made me do a spittake all over my keyboard.  Thanks for making me smile.

And besides, FemHawke couldn't fix crazypantsonhead Anders.  We need video game space Jesus or something.  Oh wait--that's supposed to be Shep 

[HK-90210]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

CastonFolarus wrote...

Wait, that's it! Jacob was possesed by a Desire Demon! IT ALL MAKES PERFECT SENSE NOW! We have to save him! We need FemHaw- oh wait.......

You almost made me do a spittake all over my keyboard.  Thanks for making me smile.

And besides, FemHawke couldn't fix crazypantsonhead Anders.  We need video game space Jesus or something.  Oh wait--that's supposed to be Shep 

[Julian Varanel]

I had my female Shepard romance Jacob in ME2. Here I enter ME3 and well...no carry over at all. It makes no sense whatsoever. But then the majority of the ME2 squad is ill used in ME3, in my
opinion.

[Sangheili_1337]

Pretty sad that they did this. I found him a boring character but I feel for people who did like him. In ME 2 he prob had the purest character out of anyone, it doesn't make sense for Bioware to make such a goody two shoes cheat on Shepard.

[SilentK]

LuckyIronAxe wrote...

Visii wrote...

Wanna get loud and tell 'em what how we really feel about what they did to Jacob?

http://social.biowar...ndex/10098213/1

Do it!

Just went and made my voice on Jacob's poor treatment heard, rally sisters and brothers!

I wrote about Jacob there also. We should have some way of continuing the relationship in ME3 and they did such a horrible 180-turn on how his character, gahhh.

Don't know if it will lead to anything, but I added my voice.

For Jacob  

CastonFolarus wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
 Oh,
it's worse than that. She starts off by admitting that she knew that Jacob was with you but that she went after him anyway. Then she tells you that Jacob still loves you. Shepard rightly demands to know why she would say that and Brynn says it's because she's also going to tell you that Jacob is better off with her now. Not that that actually answers the question at all. And then she gets all pissed if you say you're not going to discuss your relationship with Jacob with her. Because she is terrible.

...ok,
letting her die to Cerberus forces is too good for her.  Boiling in oil?  Covered in molten gold and left as a statue on the Citadel?  

Maybe we should just leave her in a room with the DA2 LIs, who are just as pissed off as we are, and let them do whatever they want to her. Hmmmm.....that sounds like a REALLY bad crossover fanfic on one of the kinkmemes.

It does make me want to go play DA2, though. They didn't pull this kind of crap with their LIs. Well.....they did change Anders just a little less than Jacob, but at least they had a actual reason.

Wait, that's it! Jacob was possesed by a Desire Demon! ITALL MAKES PERFECT SENSE NOW! We have to save him! We need FemHaw- oh wait........./../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png

Ha ha ha        thanks for a good laugh guys!!

Modifié par SilentK, 18 mars 2012 - 01:00 .

[Semi-Sweet Serpent Charmer]

wow. Just...wow. I wasn't a huge Jacob fan either, but I liked him because he was so eager to have an actual relationship with Shep; Kaiden and Garrus always seemed a little hesitant in the beginnings of their various relationships. Apparently he was just eager to father some children? Sorry Jacob fans. He was kind of a weak character and not as terribly interesting as some of the other love interests, so I can see why they decided not to expand on him. But I am kind of glad that I dumped his ass in ME2 before things ever got serious. Wow.

[Sifr]

You know, this sort of makes me wonder about the end of his relationship with Miranda as well. Did she dump him because he wanted a future and she couldn't have kids, or is it seeming more likely that she realised that he likes to screw the boss because he's obsessed with getting "The Priiize?"

Jacob, dammit, you are better than this!

[Sable Rhapsody]

SilentK wrote...
Ha ha ha        thanks for a good laugh guys!!

Any time.  Humor in the face of adversity, my friends 

I'm now thinking that Brynn should be left in a pit of ever-so-slightly hungry Blast-Ended Skrewts.  If they're not starving it'll last longer.

[SilentK]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

SilentK wrote...
Ha ha ha        thanks for a good laugh guys!!

Any time.  Humor in the face of adversity, my friends 

I'm now thinking that Brynn should be left in a pit of ever-so-slightly hungry Blast-Ended Skrewts.  If they're not starving it'll last longer.

Ohh... I like that one     would even go hunting for Skrewts myself it was possible to set it up!

[Visii]

So, I'm being a general nuisance on Twitter, and this happened:

Vi ‏ @Asenza
@JessicaMerizan Did Jacob take stupid pills on the Citadel? Why tell a romanced Shepard that Brynn wants to name their child after her?

Citadel Plumbing VI ‏ @StarchildEntity
@Asenza @JessicaMerizan I checked my database and he wasn't listed for indoctrination. That was nasty, even by our standards.

Vi ‏ @Asenza
Even the god-child determined to save all life in the galaxy by destroying all life in the galaxy thinks that Jacob was mistreated!

[coldwetn0se]

Visii wrote...

So, I'm being a general nuisance on Twitter, and this happened:

Vi ‏ @Asenza
@JessicaMerizan Did Jacob take stupid pills on the Citadel? Why tell a romanced Shepard that Brynn wants to name their child after her?

Citadel Plumbing VI ‏ @StarchildEntity
@Asenza @JessicaMerizan I checked my database and he wasn't listed for indoctrination. That was nasty, even by our standards.

Vi ‏ @Asenza
Even the god-child determined to save all life in the galaxy by destroying all life in the galaxy thinks that Jacob was mistreated!

Visii, that. was.  AWESOME!

Keeping up the support for Jacob.  Wish there was a little flag waving emoticon.

[Vovea]

I just watched the ME3 Jacob romance meet on YouTube... That was creepy and awkward and odd. It just seems so out of the blue.

[Omega Torsk]

Oh, wow. I just saw the reunion with Jacob and a Femshep that romanced him. Why is there no renegade interrupt to punch him in the nuts? And on the Citadel when he talks about having a baby...

*Renegade Interrupt*

Femshep: Enjoy it, Taylor. It's not gonna happen, again. *Shepard violently knees him in the crotch*

My heart truly goes out to people that Bioware cheated with this. While it adds realism to the game, it was very out of the blue and uncalled for. And it speaks volumes to Jacob's character. I feel your pain. If this happened with Ashley, (my favorite LI) I would be pissed!

I dunno, disloyalty aside, there was something very condescending about Jacob's attitude in this game. Like, I got the vibe that he thinks he's a better person than Shepard. "Well I'm happy that you've found purpose by protecting a backwater colony and knocking up your new girlfriend. I'm trying to save the galaxy."

Jacob Taylor has unlocked a new achievement, "Player."

[Petrikles]

Omega Torsk wrote...

...My heart truly goes out to people that Bioware cheated with this. While it adds realism to the game, it was very out of the blue and uncalled for. And it speaks volumes to Jacob's character. I feel your pain. If this happened with Ashley, (my favorite LI) I would be pissed!
...

Actually, it is already hinted in ME2 that he might not be a really faithful partner. He apparently was together with Miranda, doesn´t even remember something they promised each other (Miranda remembers her part), and he himself admits then "she deserves a better man than I am...".

So. Here you go. In ME3, he found a woman which made him a child so that he cannot run away anymore so easily. That fits his character; while he wouldn´t be a really faithful partner, he is still responsible enough to not leave a pregnant woman. Very realistic indeed, since that is not unheard of.

I enjoyed this type of romance very much, as well as the Thane variant. Both are very very emotional and show how it can go if not everything is rainbow and unicorn.

[SilentK]

Kailord wrote...

Actually, it is already hinted in ME2 that he might not be a really faithful partner. He apparently was together with Miranda, doesn´t even remember something they promised each other (Miranda remembers her part), and he himself admits then "she deserves a better man than I am...".

So. Here you go. In ME3, he found a woman which made him a child so that he cannot run away anymore so easily. That fits his character; while he wouldn´t be a really faithful partner, he is still responsible enough to not leave a pregnant woman. Very realistic indeed, since that is not unheard of.

I enjoyed this type of romance very much, as well as the Thane variant. Both are very very emotional and show how it can go if not everything is rainbow and unicorn.

Umm... no, there were no hints to Jacob being a cheater in ME2, at all.

Miranda and Jacob had an relationship that they ended. Cheating is never mentioned at all in ME2. Unless you consider having had a previous relationship before you meet your current partner cheating, but according to that logic Miranda would have cheated on BroShep by having had a previous relationship with Jacob. No, having had a relationship earlier in your life does not make you a cheater. And it is never mentioned in the game that Jacob would have cheated on Miranda, and if indeed he had done so. Do you really think Miranda would happily work with him again? If Jacob had cheated on Miranda, he would not be working with her on the Normandy in ME2. No one ever mentions cheating.

You are correct that there is a mention of a promise, Jacob get's info on his father's crashed ship. It was Miranda who sent him that info, anonymously. If you go to that planet to get Jacob loyal, she later reveals that it was she who sent that info to Jacob. She said it was because of an old promise. And she keeps her promises. What that promise was, is never mentioned.

The "She deserves a better man than me"-line what the stupidest thing they ever wrote in that romance. It has such great convos later on, but that one line is always misunderstod. It is Jacob saying that he finds Miranda to be a bit high maintance. Wish they had worded it differently...

Jacob is almost irritatingly goody-two-shoes if you have an urge for pushing mercs out of windows and such things. During his romance he specifically says that he doesn't want to rush things, and that he wants something real. Really don't see if you got that impression of him at all. He is really a keeping-it-straight-and-narrow person in ME2.

If you had done his romance-arc in ME3 you would know that there are some really awful mixes of romance-convo and friendly convo's. A FemShep who is dumped cannot talk to Jacob to find out why he cheated on her. We can punch a reporter but there is no way to be angry at Jacob over this. You have to save your cheating bastared of an ex, and his girlfriend from that base. Even if you personally would like to leave them to rot. Do you really see a renegade FemShep going "Oki, you cheated on me with that woman. Well, I'm going to save all of you, we can have cookies and tea on the ship afterwards". I can see a renegade FemShep leaving that planet with a crater in it.

It could have been an interesting thing in the game, to play out how your FemShep reacts to Jacob cheating on her. But it is never mentioned by any of your companions. I would think that Liara would come by to tell FemShep that "Jacob wasn't good enough for her" or something to cheer her up. But no, they don't do anything with it. The whole thing is just to get Jacob out of the story as fast as possible so there won't be any romance-stuff done for him. When you go back to the hospital as a romanced and dumped FemShep to meet Jacob again. You get the same friendly-convo as everyone else. You would think a sane man would have something better to say to his ex-girlfriend who saved his life and his new girlfriend than "We're naming the baby after you". But they probably to add something so we get the same thing as any other Shepard. At that point any living breathing woman would have throttled Jacob, but that is somehow not an option.

You can perhaps look on Jacob and Thane from the outside, if you only play BroShep, and say. Nice, some things doesn't always go well for Shepard. But, if you do play FemShep, and see how little effort was put into this, you would be very dissapointed. Thane could have been the Moulin Rouge, a breathtakingly beautiful sad romance, of ME. Since they are determined to kill him off they could at least have done this in some way that let's you have a romance first. It could have been sad but beautiful. Nope, it is the same as Jacob. "Hi Hun, I'm dying/cheating on you". Exit stage. Again with a horrible mix of romance and friendly convos.

It might look good from the outside looking in. But if you tried them yourself... They are not ok, because they are not developed.

edit: Sorry if I sound angry, I'm just dissapointed at the treatment of one of my fav characters in ME.

In ME2: Jacob is the only one who says "I love you" to FemShep.
In ME2: LotSB, Liara says to FemShep that it is good that she has Jacob since he is stable and she will need that support.

In ME3: Jacob "How long was I supposed to wait"

Modifié par SilentK, 22 mars 2012 - 01:25 .

[Omega Torsk]

I made something for the cause! I'll just leave this right here...

[Emeraldfern]

Dropped in to say that heck yeah I'm with you in fixing Jacob!
Alongside with any fix Thane/Jack/Miranda DLC.

Even if my personal favorite is L.I. is Thane, my Mei-Li Shepard who romanced Jacob was still a playthrough I thoroughly enjoyed. In fact I must confess at first I romanced Jacob for the "lulz" but in the end I found I genuinly liked his romance. And I'm a little sad I won't be importing my Solider Shep for ME3.
Instead, I'll let her stay in her cabin with Jacob in ME2 so she can stay happy and oblivious to ME3's events.