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krystalevenstar

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You could give even a one word answer that you're aware of the outrage, taking steps to fix it, or have had a plan in place since the beginning that will retconn the angry fanbase about the endings.

So after taking a long nap after a trying day of going over and over in my head, 'how could this happen', 'this can't possibly be the ending', I've come to a realization. This whole ending scene scandal stinks so bad for everyone because it's totally and completely uncharacteristic of what we've come to expect from Bioware/Mass Effect. This company has spent more time tailoring every single aspect of these character's lives so that we can have these awesome and unique experiences with each of them that I -cannot- believe they would end their magnum opus on such a sour and uncharacteristic note. One of the major themes of Mass Effect has always been about hope and belief. No one believed Commander Shepard about The Reapers besides his loyal friends and crewmates. I think that I'm going to try to trust Bioware on this one for a while and believe that they know what they're doing, even while everyone else doesn't. I don't think they could have possibly ended it like this without some sort of major plan for going forward unless there was some complete shakeup about production with EA and it did get rushed out the door, but I don't think it could have. For the most part, these are all the same people in charge that ever have been with the other games, and I don't think they'd personally be willing to end that many years of work and crush that much of their fanbase like that without a good idea in place about how they're going to fix it and actually add closure to the game (multiple post game DLC, an expension, etc)((which on another note, sucks since we would really be having to pay more money for the actual game ending...but it's better than what we have, and let's be realistic, 99% of us will buy it regardless)). Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but these people have crafted these characters from the ground up and I don't believe they're willing to hang them out to dry like this anymore than we don't want to about just accepting they're alive (for now) crash landed somewhere and to extrapolate our own endings. However, if they do have a plan going forward about this whole controversy, even a courtesy acknowledgement without any sort of reveal would help to majorly abate the community. Even a 'trust us, we'll take care of this' to let us know they're aware of how much this doesn't sit with everyone instead of just radio silence.

So please Bioware, it's my birthday on Sunday and all I'd like to have is some reassurance things are going to be okay. :crying:

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krystalevenstar wrote...

You could give even a one word answer that you're aware of the outrage, taking steps to fix it, or have had a plan in place since the beginning that will retconn the angry fanbase about the endings.

So after taking a long nap after a trying day of going over and over in my head, 'how could this happen', 'this can't possibly be the ending', I've come to a realization. This whole ending scene scandal stinks so bad for everyone because it's totally and completely uncharacteristic of what we've come to expect from Bioware/Mass Effect. This company has spent more time tailoring every single aspect of these character's lives so that we can have these awesome and unique experiences with each of them that I -cannot- believe they would end their magnum opus on such a sour and uncharacteristic note. One of the major themes of Mass Effect has always been about hope and belief.

No one believed Commander Shepard about The Reapers besides his loyal friends and crewmates. I think that I'm going to try to trust Bioware on this one for a while and believe that they know what they're doing, even while everyone else doesn't. I don't think they could have possibly ended it like this without some sort of major plan for going forward unless there was some complete shakeup about production with EA and it did get rushed out the door, but I don't think it could have.

For the most part, these are all the same people in charge that ever have been with the other games, and I don't think they'd personally be willing to end that many years of work and crush that much of their fanbase like that without a good idea in place about how they're going to fix it and actually add closure to the game (multiple post game DLC, an expension, etc)((which on another note, sucks since we would really be having to pay more money for the actual game ending...but it's better than what we have, and let's be realistic, 99% of us will buy it regardless)).

Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but these people have crafted these characters from the ground up and I don't believe they're willing to hang them out to dry like this anymore than we don't want to about just accepting they're alive (for now) crash landed somewhere and to extrapolate our own endings.However, if they do have a plan going forward about this whole controversy, even a courtesy acknowledgement without any sort of reveal would help to majorly abate the community. Even a 'trust us, we'll take care of this' to let us know they're aware of how much this doesn't sit with everyone instead of just radio silence.

So please Bioware, it's my birthday on Sunday and all I'd like to have is some reassurance things are going to be okay. :crying:


Now I can read this. Oh and Happy Birthday.

Modifié par gamesmith11, 10 mars 2012 - 03:40 .


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SilencedScream

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social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9728830

Someone acknowledges it; however, it sounds to me like they're hoping to get more sales in other places by staying silent for now. Once all the hopeful money from new purchases and From Ashes purchases comes through, THEN they'll likely say something.

For now, it's all about making money.

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There was some post somewhere that showed they were aware but were waiting for an offical word as EU just got it and they want to remain spoiler free for a bit.

Other than hearing it second hand I have no idea what they will do.

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Bioware is definitely aware of the ****storm, tweets from them have been popping up here and there from people attached to Mass Effect 3. As for any official response, it seems that they are going to hold off on that to give everyone a chance to finish the game. I'd imagine if are going to put out a response it should probably be out a week after the Japanese release on the 15th at the latest.

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krystalevenstar

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gamesmith11 wrote...

Now I can read this. Oh and Happy Birthday.


Sorry, typed that from a tablet, thanks for making it easier to read XD, and thanks for the happy birthday too :)

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They definitely know and have had some internal discussion about how to proceed -- even if it is just informal discussion or some direction to the community managers & forum mods. A lot of their employees are just as emotionally invested in the game as the players are -- moreso, even -- as it is their blood, sweat, and tears that went into the product. So there's definitely discussion going on among the dev team & leaders.

Now, if we actually hear anything out of it is another matter entirely. :P

It is pretty obvious the company line is no comment for now. Once Europe & Japan has their say, that might change, but I wouldn't count on it. It is pretty easy to make community outcry like this worse with comment. So they may just choose to take the hit and know better next time.

That said, if they did respond in a good way, I'd be both surprised and impressed. 

Modifié par raeting, 10 mars 2012 - 03:51 .


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krystalevenstar

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I don't see how they couldn't respond in some capacity to -this much- of the community in outrage, including outside of here at BSN, other forums are having just as much rage about it.
Even if it's something crappy and they basically go, 'tough cookies fanbase, this is how we wanted to end it, this is how we ended it, sorry you got all butthurt, but deal with it. *puts on sunglasses*' They couldn't just try to brush it under the rug at this point, not when 9 out of every 10 people finishing it feels like they got conned.

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It depends entirely on what Bioware is willing to do.

Creating content to fix this is a risky proposition. The ME franchise is worth a lot of money. Even with the current outrage, it is pretty likely the next game in the series has a good shot. Take Star Wars: Episode 1 as an example. Panned by a lot of fans, but Episode 2 & 3 did reasonably well nonetheless.

So, if they create content to fix the ending, and the fans still don't like it, then Bioware has just punched their fanbase twice. That could be pretty bad. Bioware just cashed in a lot of goodwill with this, they have to be careful to not cash in anymore for a while.

By comparison, if you ignore the problem, people will get tired of complaining about it. They might not buy ME3 DLC. But given a couple years to cool off and a brand new, highly-rated ME4, Bioware could probably recapture a lot of interest in the series. After all, by then, the ending would be a mistake they definitely didn't repeat in ME4.

So, yeah, don't get your hopes up for a response. I'd like to see one too. But, meh. If they aren't going to fix it, there's no reason for them to officially respond. It'd just make everyone angrier. If they are going to fix it, they won't respond until they know exactly what that fix looks like. Which will take some time to agree on, get approval for, and all that.

Of course, I'm just guessing in the end. 

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