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[Mievain]

Spectre_Shepard wrote...

As I stated in another thread, it took me ~40 hours to run through ME3. And I can say, unequivocally, that for the first 39 hours and 50 minutes, ME3 was the greatest game I've ever played. I thought so then, and I still think so now. Bioware and the ME team should be commended for giving me perhaps the greatest gaming experience of my life for that stretch of time. And so, for the record, it is on the basis of those first 39 and 5/6 hours that I will remain a loyal bioware customer and fan.

But, as we are all acutely aware of by now, the last 10 minutes were not of the same caliber. Not because Shepard probably dies (I accepted that likelihood early on) but for a host of various other reasons, including serious lack of much needed closure. This was the game that was supposed to answer all the questions, and leave us with a sense of satisfaction and hope for the future of our own private, little universe. We didn't get it, or at least I didn't.

And the worst part of it all, for me anyway, was that it should've been great. It should've been everything we were waiting for. Bioware had greatness in its grasp, and they let it slip away. And that's what disappointed me the most.

This thousand times. Everything was great and I was expecting Crucible to fire and cycle to end finally with bittersweet ending where organics triumphed but with terrible losses, but no, god-child out of nowhere comes, normandy gets stuck on some random planet and I have to either sacrifice geth after all I did for them or merge organics with tech or become reaper overgod.

Also photoshopped tali face ftl, I'm glad I wasn't subjected to it on my playtrough.

[Slappy Ya Face]

True dat. It almost had it. It was so close to perfection. Then they let 10 minutes ruin everything.

[TuringPoint]

The thing I don't like about most of these complaints is how they seem to be suggesting - or stating - that the ending ruins the game. Does it really invalidate everything else that was good, or just disrespect everything that was good about it?

[Slappy Ya Face]

Alocormin wrote...

The thing I don't like about most of these complaints is how they seem to be suggesting - or stating - that the ending ruins the game. Does it really invalidate everything else that was good, or just disrespect everything that was good about it?

It makes your choices pointless. That's why.

[ApplesauceBandit]

The Journey was fantastic the ending was POOP!

[Aligalipe]

It feels like Bioware tried to troll us intentionally..

[ApuLunas]

the ending was best which i've encountered in any story of any kind of art. you guys have no idea what game you just played.

[Zhuinden]

ApuLunas wrote...

the ending was best which i've encountered in any story of any kind of art. you guys have no idea what game you just played.

not sure if serious

[Kitten Tactics]

Alocormin wrote...

The thing I don't like about most of these complaints is how they seem to be suggesting - or stating - that the ending ruins the game. Does it really invalidate everything else that was good, or just disrespect everything that was good about it?

Even thinking about 1 and 2 is ruined for me now.  Everything I did/wanted to do on my next playthrough all means nothing.  None of those decisions mattered.  Shepard shifts wildly in the last minute of the game.  The galaxy collapses no matter what I do.  What's the point?

[ApuLunas]

Zhuinden wrote...

ApuLunas wrote...

the ending was best which i've encountered in any story of any kind of art. you guys have no idea what game you just played.

not sure if serious

i am dead serious.

[Xellith]

I havent felt this bad since Apollo Creed was killed by Ivan Drago in the ring... why didnt you throw in the towel, Rocky? Why???

Modifié par Xellith, 10 mars 2012 - 10:10 .

[Drake_1000]

I play to ME1 and 2 for more than 300 hours, buy several DLC/goodies/etc... and for me ME3 was such a great game until the end. I feel like Bioware kick me in the balls so no Ending DLC no more money for them.

[Mitra]

ME3 was the best gaming experience I ever had!... until it's very end.

Words have been spoken, I don't have to express much more then just...
I'll give myself a few days until I get processed in my own terms after this totally pointless fabrication of harassment of my full integrity as a person.
In my own heart, my Shepard lives forever! She is a full person, not just that heavy beaten and murdered corpse at the end...

My honest hope is that BioWare will actually do something about this.

[Harkiii]

I agree OP.  Okay I had a few minor gripes during the main game but they could be overlooked.  But that end?  I just can't believe how something so good could turn so horribly bad in the space of 10 or so minutes.

[novaseeker]

Alocormin wrote...

The thing I don't like about most of these complaints is how they seem to be suggesting - or stating - that the ending ruins the game. Does it really invalidate everything else that was good, or just disrespect everything that was good about it?

It doesn't invalidate the good elements, but it does ruin the game, and the series, for many people because everything that people have been working towards for three games (including meticulous playthroughs, getting attached to characters/LIs and so on) is rendered utterly moot by the choices offered at the end of ME3.  In a series built around decisions/actions having consequences, to have the ultimate/final decision, the one that everything has been leading towards for the entire series, be utterly isolated from anything else in the game/series in terms of consequences is beyond disappointing.  It renders the rest of the series moot.  

[Greed1914]

John Locke N7 wrote...

my friend hasnt finished it yet..... should i tell him?

(thinking about making this question a thread)

I have a friend who was debating whether to get it.  I don't know if he did, but I'm not going to say anything unless he asks.  Personally, I want somebody to rage with.  He described to me what he hoped he'd see, which was things like the Rachni riding in to save the species that had brought them to extintion, and we didn't get that.  For him, the ending probably fell apart even sooner than it did for me.

[VeganzombieQQ]

I have to agree. I loved everything about ME3 but the ending, it just left a sour taste in my mouth. I didn't mind that Shepard dies in the end, I was totally expecting it but making the ending so that none of your choices made in the pass means almost nothing was a really horrible way to end everything.

And I realised before I even started ME3 that if they were ever going to make another Mass Effect game that it would be about someone else but now I just don't see how they could ever do that unless they make something stupid like ME Zero...

[TuringPoint]

novaseeker wrote...

Alocormin wrote...

The thing I don't like about most of these complaints is how they seem to be suggesting - or stating - that the ending ruins the game. Does it really invalidate everything else that was good, or just disrespect everything that was good about it?

It doesn't invalidate the good elements, but it does ruin the game, and the series, for many people because everything that people have been working towards for three games (including meticulous playthroughs, getting attached to characters/LIs and so on) is rendered utterly moot by the choices offered at the end of ME3.  In a series built around decisions/actions having consequences, to have the ultimate/final decision, the one that everything has been leading towards for the entire series, be utterly isolated from anything else in the game/series in terms of consequences is beyond disappointing.  It renders the rest of the series moot.  

The fact that your choices in previous games figure into your war assets is nice, but the effect of the war assets has only indirect implications for how the ending plays out, and we see nothing about who/what survives. 

The civilizations you were fighting for.. what happens to them?  There isn't even a clear suggestion of what happens, just some weird symbolic and dream-like stuff.  

They did resolve a great deal of things during the journey in a more than satisfactory manner.  I would agree that some of those resolutions are now in question after the Relays die, and FTL may or may not still be feasible.  (why does the Normandy get crash landed on an unknown planet, symbolism aside?) 

I mean, sure we can imagine what happens... and I think its worth pointing out that they don't have infinite resources for making cinematics.  What they did make as it is was incredible.  Compare the number of ships and scale of the battles, and the length of the cinematics to ME1 and ME2. 

Just a small thing.. while it makes sense  for Shepard to sacrifice himself to end the Reaper threat, its sad there isn't any ending with Shepard still alive. 

Modifié par Alocormin, 10 mars 2012 - 10:30 .

[Hizuka]

Lexagg wrote...

 Absolutely, Ashley avatar picture person. Absolutely.

The game is so great, EVERY SINGLE PERSON who complains about the ending says this. All of these people are some of the biggest fans BioWare has ever had exactly because how deeply attached to the game they are. Mass Effect had a potential to be the greatest epic story ever told in a video game medium. THIS made the ending so unforgivable. It wasn't just a bad ending, it was the ending that ruined the best game I've ever played. GRRRRR.

THIS

[TuringPoint]

I agree with individual points. 

It's one thing to imagine, "The ending will be amazing!" and another to write and make that ending happen with finite (albeit large) resources.

The fact that people feel the game is 'ruined' as an experience baffles me. It was sort of an artificial ending, but you know what? I've learned to expect that. In TV, movies, and books that have any sort of complexity of plot, it is so hard to make a completely satisfying ending that isn't just completely generic. 

Modifié par Alocormin, 10 mars 2012 - 10:44 .

[sorentoft]

It really is.

[ichobi]

ME3 has the best presentation in gaming ever, and I have played games for more than 20 years. Everything was perfect, yes there are minor mechanics issues, some forced gameplay but that didn't detract me from how good it present the story... right up to the last 15 minutes.

Bioware are either genius or incredibly dumb if they didn't know what they were doing. My feeling is that they know exactly what they were doing given how good the rest of the game was, but for some reason I can't logically come up with they fall short in the end. Either that is a marketing ploy for future DLC (which then again is morally questionable; pulling a bad ending stunt to sell better ending is not acceptable same could be said for Javik even though they said he's not related and not required it is under no illusion that the way he was presented in the game prove vital to the story lien of ME3.), or they trying to finish up the franchise and move on to other project. Still doing that kind of ending to the fans is uncalled for.

[SCJ90]

I completly agree! The rest of the game is great but it is a pain to play after you have seen the ending

[Kuolonen]

Dear god. I loved this game. I loved it with a passion. I kept thinking "this game is made of epic and awesome. Its perfect." Then suddenly ending. -.-
Why bioware? Why? Aside from the fact that I'll never know how my other choices effected the galaxy, you also leave the last choice as open as all ****? The ending had ONE ****ing line explaining how it ended "sheperds a legend." THATS IT?! And its the same line for all 3 choices! Oh christ my head hurts! At least give something like: And then the Shepard/Reaper fleet became the unchallanged ruler of the know galaxy... ANYTHING.
...and theres the little things like, why joker had deserted? How did my crewmates teleport from planetside to normandy? Why couldnt Bioware postpone the release until ending was something better?
Oh right I know the answer to that last one. Thanks EA. I think i'll go vomit now.

[SandTrout]

ApuLunas wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

ApuLunas wrote...

the ending was best which i've encountered in any story of any kind of art. you guys have no idea what game you just played.

not sure if serious

i am dead serious.

True art is incomprehensible then?

Sorry, but as someone who appreciates the art and skill associated with good storytelling, the ending was just bad for numerous reasons that have been listed in multiple threads.

You're accusing us, the target audience, of being too blind to understand the ending (what a joke) when we have categorically listed what is wrong with the ending in a manner that demonstrates a more throrough understanding to the series, its plot, its themes, and it's background than you have.

For all your arrogant posturing, you do not explain how the ending is so great, while we constantly explain in explicit detail why it is so bad.