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[movieguyabw]

Eh, that's still not very good. They should've just not had the Guardian scene in the first place. Who cares if we know why the Reapers are doing all of this?

[TheLostGenius]

Glad they got rid of the Dark Energy idea, that was very...uninspired. Thought the ending was great, very intense, but great. We couldn't ask for more.

[My Intentions]

Holy hell! I would pay for that ending! At least I get to be with liara!! xP And the sun changing colors by the illusive mans base totally hints at it... C'mon bioware... Stick with what you start with.

[John Locke N7]

the new ending sounds more realistic (except the part where you change DNA of everyone or whatever....) and the dark energy plot may have been silly.

but the ending we have JUSTIFYS THE EXTINCTION OF MILLIONS IF NOT BILLIONS OF CIVILIZATIONS.

killing billions every 50k years is just retardedly sick and wrong, it was not worth it for "cause duh machines might oneday kill der makers" im sorry, killing all organic life every 50k years is just as bad as killing your makers. infact its as bad as killing your makers every 50k years.

i would rather take the destroy reaper path. And seeing how renegade characters act their ending fits

Modifié par John Locke N7, 10 mars 2012 - 04:39 .

[SandTrout]

movieguyabw wrote...

Eh, that's still not very good. They should've just not had the Guardian scene in the first place. Who cares if we know why the Reapers are doing all of this?

So damn true.

[Sharkey1337]

Oh no I fully support the idea of organics and synthetics being able to work together, like the Geth and Quarians. Sure we got shafted on not having a "F*CK YOU!" choice at the end that had just the Reapers being destroyed in putting faith in the galaxy that synthetics won't destroy all organic life in the end. The current endings just stuck to that theme of organics and synthetics that the series has carried for the most part, doesn't mean I don't like the idea of Dark Energy being the logic of the Reapers' function.

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

This ending fits much better with the tone and themes of ME. Instead of some philosophical BS with colours, it has the paragon vs. renegade theme of "how far are you willing to go to succeed" that was present in the ending choice of ME2.

[ReachEtaruN74]

QuirkyGroundhog wrote...

Malachite73 wrote...

Sharkey1337 wrote...

Hm, idk I kinda prefer the current endings to the Dark Energy ending, simply as it stuck more closely to the theme of synthetics vs organics, which the Geth vs Quarian war embodied.

But the fact you can get the Geth and Quarians to work together means that the current endings are bogus.  Besides, can you honesly tell me the Reapers are so "unknowable" when thier intentions are actually almost too simple?  The Dark Energy ending at least gives the Reapers that continued Lovecraftian feeling.

Not everyone makes lasting peace. It's very possible for a Shepard who fails at making peace to believe that conflict is inevitable. Metagaming I know that there are best possible outcomes but the character doesn't necesarily.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying there, but if conflict is inevitable, then peace between synthetic and organics should be impossible at every turn. The story of the geth is that they wanted peace but were FORCED into conflict by the creators. This concept defies the idea that synthetics must eventually desire to dominate.

[Lexagg]

singing_pigs wrote...

Eh, the Reaper's motivation is embedded too much into the story of Mass Effect 3, if they tried to bring back this ending too much would have to change. And I don't think the concept is inherently better. The issue with the ending now is in the execution.

"You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it". That doesn't fit either motivation, to be honest. In fact, I don't think they even needed to reveal Reaper motivation at all. Reapers are ancient space gods. They are incomprehensible and strange.

[acegarcia5]

These endings actually make sense

[Xellith]

They dont seem to be replying to any critcal opinions or questions on the https://twitter.com/#!/masseffect why am I not suprised?

Modifié par Xellith, 10 mars 2012 - 04:42 .

[Greed1914]

I had wondered why we never heard anything about Dark Energy again.  I flew by Haestrom to meet the Quarians and wondered about that sun that was aging too fast, and heard nothing.   Seems like a sun aging too fast might be a big deal, certainly big enough that I could believe that it was a matter big enough to motivate the Reapers.

I had avoided reading anything related to the leaked script because I figured that they wouldn't actually change much, anything, so it's rather disappointing to see that it probably would have been very different.  Even if the choices weren't any better, at least they would have made more sense.  I mean, the whole premise of man vs. machine kind of falls apart when you have examples like the Geth and EDI.  It might still work if you didn't resolve those in a favorable manner, but at least the dark energy angle wouldn't fly in the face of what happened in the game. 

"Synthetics will always rebel and wipe out their makers."  Really?  Because I just brokered a peace between two such groups, and it worked largely because said synthetics were not inherently hostile.  And a human is currently dating an AI, so I'd say it's worth letting things play out for a while.

It's also rather interesting/concerning that Drew Karphsyn left the company entirely right before the game came out.  Maybe it means nothing, but maybe it also means that there were problems that he saw that weren't going to be fixed.

Modifié par Greed1914, 10 mars 2012 - 04:45 .

[AxisEvolve]

The original ending sounded much more Mass Effect. I want it.

[ReachEtaruN74]

Sharkey1337 wrote...

Oh no I fully support the idea of organics and synthetics being able to work together, like the Geth and Quarians. Sure we got shafted on not having a "F*CK YOU!" choice at the end that had just the Reapers being destroyed in putting faith in the galaxy that synthetics won't destroy all organic life in the end. The current endings just stuck to that theme of organics and synthetics that the series has carried for the most part, doesn't mean I don't like the idea of Dark Energy being the logic of the Reapers' function.

Ok I think I see your point a little better. What I'm saying is that the dark energy ending was constantly hinted at and led up to by the story of the first and second and the story of the third feels like someone took the wheel and yanked the story vehicle into a completely different direction arbitrarily. I think that the fact that the self determining geth who chose to side with Sovreign shows that conflict is inevitable, BUT not that synthetic/organic conflict is inevitable. Conflict is only inevitable when one self determining group's ideals make it impossible for coexistence with other self-determining groups.

[AxisEvolve]

Xellith wrote...

They dont seem to be replying to any critcal opinions or questions on the https://twitter.com/#!/masseffect why am I not suprised?

I doubt a developer actually runs that. They probably can't help us. 

[Lea-Anne]

That would have made more sense. I was realllllly looking forward to some more on the Dark Energy from ME2. I think having an actual threat other than the Reapers... like the original Dark Energy that can and will destroy the galaxy is a better crux for your final choice rather than some vague potential threat that may or may not occur in the future.

To be honest though Bioware made a great game. The ending might not be perfect, but I really like the fact that there is no happily ever after. It doesn't ruin the game for me.

[Hanabii]

The ending in this game was horrible. It made me regret buying the game. I'd have been happy imagining up ME3 the rest of my days over what Bioware pulled. They created a universe that they claimed they loved then screwed it over.

I hate what Bioware did. It was the LAST game company I respected at all.

These endings were the worst you could imagine. Disappointing, abysmal. In the end your choices don't matter because all you do is affect what you bring INTO the battle. But not how anything turns out.

This Shoehorned POS ending makes me as a fan of Bioware who's literally dumped over 200 bucks on their games depressed. What happened to good endings?! Why would you want to screw over fans who stayed with you so long?

You worked so hard on the game? Why couldn't you have given good endings!? Don't you remember how Mass Effect Ended? How about Mass Effect 2? But this Starchild Crap after this 'Reaper Beyond your Comprehension'? There is NOTHING beyond understanding "We're harvesting you so you don't destroy yourselves."

To those of you who wrote the ending to Mass Effect 3, You failed your fans. You failed the universe you made. And I am ashamed I bought this game and had faith in you.

Your odds of surviving should have been determined by the personal bonds you forged. Rather earth survived should have been decided by the fleet you gathered. Rather on not you beat the reapers should have been decided in some epic finale between Harbinger and Shepard.

But NOOOO, the ONLY endings you give are ones were Shepard dies and effectively screws everyone over. Or Shepard Lives and screws everyone over and betrays his allies. (If you were good.)

I liked the Paragon/Renegade thing because it wasn't just Good/Evil. But in the end you even failed at that because in the end Shepard wasn't a Hero. Shep just obeyed the Starchild Delusion that freaking deigned to screw over the universe in the first place. In the end all that Bravado, all that effort and heart of Shepard ended with the series dying in a whimper and a sigh.

I will never trust a Bioware game again until I review the end of it's stories. I am sorry I bought Mass Effect 3, I'm sorry I raved about Bioware to my friend. I'm sorry I introduced my Big Sister to the game.

Gotta love the writers who end the story with, "And the final confrontation was at hand." "And then the universe blew up and no one was happy. The end! Thanks for the money suckers, glad to take you for a ride instead of on one!"

Thanks Traitors, because of you I'm not sure I'll even keep my SWTOR account.

[Niulus Kriyk]

TeamLexana wrote...

My only problem with the ending is my crew gets stranded. I've played enough ME to know that's a BAD thing. They don't deserve that crap. SAVE THE NORMANDY CREW.

THIS! And that Liara flashback when I romanced Tali.

[Militarized]

You need to comment to the community manager. look up https://twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan and tweet her.

[Militarized]

The dark energy/singularity thing is all pointless to me, dark energy would have been a better twist but when they scrapped it and turned ME3 into a more action oriented game they should have stuck to a more action oriented ending instead of shoehorning in a ridiculous, paradoxical, slippery slope fallacy philosophy and ruined the lore of the Reapers in general. They don't even make sense anymore as a construct.

ME3 version of ME2's ending would have been the way to go, it would have been perfect. 

Modifié par Militarized, 10 mars 2012 - 04:47 .

[SNESwiggum]

I wondered why the dark energy angle was completely ignored in ME3. It was mentioned and hinted at a few times in ME2 and I thought for sure would play a huge role in the final game. Strangely it wasn't mentioned once. Now I'm not saying that rumor has any validity to it but it does make you wonder

[ReachEtaruN74]

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The ending that we were given does not fit within the lore of Mass Effect. It contradicts the concepts that Mass Effect 2 lays down as the foundation for ME3.

Just because it was leaked early does not change the fact that the dark energy plot is brilliant. Not to mention original. What we recieved instead is a recycled idea that has been explored and explained by multiple brilliant sci-fi authors and if they had really wanted the ending of "inevitable conflict" between synthetic and organic, it could have been done in infinitely better ways within the universe. However, again, I don't think there is anything they could do to make the ending they chose mesh with the lore of the Mass Effect universe.

[AxisEvolve]

Militarized wrote...

You need to comment to the community manager. look up https://twitter.com/#!/JessicaMerizan and tweet her.

But she's not a developer either :/ we need to go straight to the source. 

[Arios1570]

I'm sorry, but the dark energy reason for the reapers doesn't fit. Especially if the Crucible was made to solve the problem. "What? You're building the thing we need to complete our mission?! That's it, we're running off with the thing you need to complete the job!" If that were the case, the reapers would have stopped harvesting and moved to help set up the Crucible.