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ME3 is hopeless. A new ending changes nothing.


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After 25hr of playing I must say I am very very very depressed by what ME3 devliered. Not because of the ending options but also the whole gameplay. The touching elements provided In ME1 & 2 simply disappear. ME3 is no longer an RPG but a shooting game, just like Gears of Wars or The Lost Planet. Let's see what happened in ME3:

1. Decisions you made in ME1 & 2 meant nothing. Surely they sometimes changes some process in the chapters, but they all follow the same pattern: 
  •    You did some decision in ME1 or 2
  •    In ME3 you will enounter some chapter and different character or dialog
  •    After you finish that chapter you get a higher or lower military value
  •    That value decide what choices you get in the end. Namely the REG, GREEN, BLUE choices.
Is that satisfying? I don't think so. After being through ME1 and ME2, we hoped that decisions I made would lead to something big and earthquaking. Something would change the course of the story. Just like in LOTR Merry and Pippin changed the minds of the tree-ent so that Iseangard is destroyed. No, you got nothing in ME3. If this is ME2 or another RPG players would buy it but this is ME3, the final installment of the whole trilogy. Players expectation would be extreme. From the perspective of programmers I could understand the difficulty of making such things, but as a loyal player who had been through ME1 & 2 in the four years I was very disappointed. Will a new DLC or ending change all of these? I think we all have the answer. 

2. The structure and logic behind the whole ME3 story is weak. I could only list some of the most serious flaw that come in my mind. Tons of articles had been posted on the forum.
  • The crucible is simply a kill-switch like Dues Ex Mach, which killed the atmosphere. The story surrounds it. Everyone is building it but no one except TIM knows what it is. In the end scene when General Hackett says "Hey Shepherd, there must be something like a button up there, See if you can find it" ****, I was laughing with tears. So they are building something which they don't even know where the "start" button is. What a joke.
  • To deliver a Matrix-Revolution style ending requires more than a simple talk given by the kid AI. In Matrix we all remember what humans had done to machines in Matrix: Animation. When Neo entered the source and meet with the Architect, his reaction was denial and I believe he would give the Architect the finger. Till the end of Matrix Revolution he finally realize the inevitability and accepted his fate. But our Shepherd, who had been through all the events in ME1 & 2, simply accepted that the three options are the ways out in less than 5 minutes. The bad guys turn out to be the guardian of the galaxy and he bought it. What about the "We fight or we die" talk in the beginning? What about all those deceased squadmates and friends? I think he's indoctrinated. Like I said, to deliver such a story require lengthy and careful story-paving. How could a simple alternative ending save it?
  • The fight on Earth is neither moving nor thrilling. Again, the crucible, sabotaged the story completely. Remember those trailers before the game came out? Where are those things? If you go through those trailers on Youtube again and then take a look on what going on in the game, you will get most depressed, even felt like cheated. So the ultimate reason we fight on Earth is the stupid beam entrance. If you had played the single player compaign of Starcraft II, you'll find the assault on Char is even more thrilling than ME3. OMG! Even the story of an RTS can beat ME3.
3. Does Shepherd have to fight with only TWO of his squadmates till the end? It is a war and the Shepherd kept fighting on his own and two other poor guys. Obviously this can be done better without difficulty but Bioware failed to do so.

With all these flaws and defects, I don't think that there would and should be another ending fix. Bioware you screwed it up in an unfixable way, and we all have to live with that. And I swear I would never put my trust in your products. 

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This. I just tried to understand the Cruicible story-arc. There is no way in hell that it can be understood. It is 100 % plot hole, inconsistency and totally worthless.

Its a bad story, a really bad story. It took me 4 days to realize exactly how crappy it is. Its mind boggeling how they could come up with this plot hole as a story.

But they can at least try to make it a descent game by totally revamping the end, so that your choises of ME1 and ME2 does a severe impact on how it plays out. While staying true to the games "lore" and "universe" and not do this type of deep Sci-Fi ending to a series that evolved into a orgy of action with a nice backstory, lore and setting.

Modifié par SyyRaaaN, 10 mars 2012 - 04:54 .


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The touching elements provided In ME1 & 2 simply disappear.


I don't know what game you were playing, but the ME3 I played made me tear up on more than one occasion, which is more than I can say for ME1 or ME2.

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Fidget6 wrote...

The touching elements provided In ME1 & 2 simply disappear.


I don't know what game you were playing, but the ME3 I played made me tear up on more than one occasion, which is more than I can say for ME1 or ME2.



I agree so much with this. ME3 was so emotional for me.

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Jaron Oberyn

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Lol you had me laughing at the realization of the button scene. :P not gonna be able to take it seriously when he says that anymore. Although don't know if I'll play it after I drag myself through this second playthrough.

-Polite

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Ivikatasha wrote...

Fidget6 wrote...

The touching elements provided In ME1 & 2 simply disappear.


I don't know what game you were playing, but the ME3 I played made me tear up on more than one occasion, which is more than I can say for ME1 or ME2.



I agree so much with this. ME3 was so emotional for me.


Personally I freaked out a few times, like when the Virimire survivor almost dies on Mars. For a minute there I really thought they were going to die and that hit me hard, but in a good way.

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John Locke N7

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you mentioned shooting game and gameplay. but then you dint even talk about gameplay.....

the gameplay in ME3 is amazing, they listened and went back on their ME2 way of thinking.
The gameplay is FUN. When your fighting your having fun. not like ME2 (for me), and not like ME1 (for other people). It was a perfect fusion of the 2 games.

The ending sucks, we all know that. But the rest of the game was FFFFing AWESOME.

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The game was awesome until the citadel run..................

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A lot of things in ME3 were emotional to me. I have no ideea what you're talking about. Indeed, we don't have many choices in this. But if you think about it, neither did we have in ME1 or ME2. What, you want completely different endings? That would've made the game ~50gb in size.

Also, they're called squads. You don't send armies of troops like in 200 BC when they have guns. You send a squad of well-trained people that can carry out a number of objectives.

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@berserk - in an article bioware said since they don't have to worry about another game after 3 they can have wildly different endings and go crazy with it. I don't know what happened between then and now, but I sincerely hope they weren't talking about the colors of the explosion.

-Polite

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PoliteAssasin wrote...

@berserk - in an article bioware said since they don't have to worry about another game after 3 they can have wildly different endings and go crazy with it. I don't know what happened between then and now, but I sincerely hope they weren't talking about the colors of the explosion.

-Polite



This is what we were promised.


We all know what happened. They rushed it and it shows. And now the series story is destroyed beyond repair. Total bummer.

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PoliteAssasin wrote...

@berserk - in an article bioware said since they don't have to worry about another game after 3 they can have wildly different endings and go crazy with it. I don't know what happened between then and now, but I sincerely hope they weren't talking about the colors of the explosion.

-Polite

Exactly! Colors of the explosion. Maybe the ending fix would be a pink or purple one

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Jaron Oberyn

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Imagine the state of the game if they released last year. People are complaining now, they'd be rioting if they didn't go with the delay. :P

And yes, the color pink for happy ending. Or maybe a rainbow explosion since someone will inevitably bring up Disney endings.

-Polite