Modifié par Zulama, 10 mars 2012 - 05:33 .
If you IGNORE THE ENDING, is ME3 the best game in the series?
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Spectre_Shepard
, mars 10 2012 05:23
#26
Guest_Zulama_*
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:32
Guest_Zulama_*
I think ME3 has had the best Gameplay mechanics in the ME Trilogy. I still think that it wasn't as perfect as Gears of Wars, but mix that with the best character interactions, and a solid but fun Co-Op Mutiplayer, and it is perhaps one of the best Science Fiction Game(s) ever made. The endings one the other hand were stupid. I mean seriously, what was the point in making an alliance with the Quarians and the Geth, if you have to kill the Geth off and EDI to make sure that you lived??
#27
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:32
Yes it is. Even with the endings, for me, since it is the end of a series. An epic series. I dont care how bad the ending it can be. I will play the game again with all my Shepards. And NG+ with all of them as well. While it may not be *the best ending ever*, it is what we got so, unless BW does give us some extra ending somehow, which would be appreciated, it is like, accept it or suffer!
#28
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:33
Absolutely yes. I actually took my time playing through this the first time, firstly because I knew the ending that was coming and wanted to stall as long as possible, but mostly because part of me was saying, "You're not going to get a chance to play a game this good again for a long while, so enjoy it while it lasts." It has its little faults, but so did the first two, and I still consider them among my favorite games of all time. ME3 doesn't really blow them out of the water, but it improves on both games before it enough that it feels like the absolutely best Mass Effect experience.
And then Ghost Child shows up, and everything goes to hell.
And then Ghost Child shows up, and everything goes to hell.
#29
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:33
I agree that, if you forget the ending, Mass Effect 3 is perhaps one of the greatest games of all time.
I have never been so emotionally invested in a game, its world, and its characters.
I have never been so emotionally invested in a game, its world, and its characters.
#30
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:34
Odd Bet wrote...
I have never been so emotionally invested in a game, its world, and its characters.
This. I praised them so much for their character development, especially, and really flushing out the universe.
It was a passion for me. Only series I've ever felt this strongly about.
#31
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:35
I would agree. If you threw away the ending and had a new one that actually fit it would be the 'Perfect Game'. I kid you not.
Even the deaths of major and loved faces from ME2 made sense and were gripping. Even the end, all before the magic elevator first showed was gripping. Even Anderson's Death. However I will Laugh Out Loud at Hacket asking about buttons and not even knowing how to activate it despite it being built from the ground up. That would have been forgivable because of the sheer performance of Hale for the voice acting of Shepard's desperate struggle to even crawl forward to fill out the final duty despite wounds.
This game was my favorite in the series, then it made me feel like a fool for my blind trust in Bioware. I guess I should have taken a hint from how the Revan/Exile thing turned out in SWTOR.
They had never given me disappointment before. I don't understand what went wrong? I don't understand why they are punishing "ME" for playing. Pun Intended.
Even the deaths of major and loved faces from ME2 made sense and were gripping. Even the end, all before the magic elevator first showed was gripping. Even Anderson's Death. However I will Laugh Out Loud at Hacket asking about buttons and not even knowing how to activate it despite it being built from the ground up. That would have been forgivable because of the sheer performance of Hale for the voice acting of Shepard's desperate struggle to even crawl forward to fill out the final duty despite wounds.
This game was my favorite in the series, then it made me feel like a fool for my blind trust in Bioware. I guess I should have taken a hint from how the Revan/Exile thing turned out in SWTOR.
They had never given me disappointment before. I don't understand what went wrong? I don't understand why they are punishing "ME" for playing. Pun Intended.
Modifié par Hanabii, 10 mars 2012 - 05:37 .
#32
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:36
Flat out ignoring the ending, ME2 and 3 are pretty close. ME3 definitely has more epic story sequences though.
#33
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:36
I tend to agree, however....
I don't think you can simply ignore the ending and say "best ever".
I think if this game was given a true, good ending, then it's an easy call: best game I've played, period.
I did start a second playthrough, and I just won't finish it. Once I'm to the last mission, I'll be done. The main story up to that point is just spectacular, imo.
I don't think you can simply ignore the ending and say "best ever".
I think if this game was given a true, good ending, then it's an easy call: best game I've played, period.
I did start a second playthrough, and I just won't finish it. Once I'm to the last mission, I'll be done. The main story up to that point is just spectacular, imo.
#34
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:36
Couple of odd endings if I do say so myself. Depending on your actions, 1 to 3 paths open. I was completely paragon, so all 3 endings were open to me. ME2 & 3, each have pros and cons, but i'd prefer 3 over 2.
#35
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:37
kalamity116 wrote...
Flat out ignoring the ending, ME2 and 3 are pretty close. ME3 definitely has more epic story sequences though.
I think that's fair. While 2 focused mainly on the crew, 3 had the better plot in the style of 1.
#36
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:39
ME3 is truly one of the greatest games I have ever played... until the last fifteen minutes.
#37
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:39
I loved Mass Effect 1. For entirely different reasons, I would say Mass Effect 2 is my favourite. ach had their highlights, but the ability to really shape the ending in Mass Effect 2 is what really grabbed my attention. Mass Effect 3 was a great nod to the characters and a fairly fascinating story, but it all felt too linear. Fewer dialogue options, less interactive dialogue, almost no physical side quests (I don't count scanning), unresponsive crew members between missions, and a nonsensical story and unapparent villain (the reapers were far from threatening or frightening) brought the experience down. Had the ending been different, I would have been satisfied and might have overlooked the other flaws; however, with the ending as it is, the entire experience is tainted.
#38
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:40
No edi the sex robot killed it for me.
#39
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:42
I found the game, up until the last ten minutes, to be amazing.
I can't remember the last time I shed tears over a video game. I have never before been so attached to fictional characters. It was an amazing, emotionally engaging journey.
But thanks to the ending, I'm not sure I can play it again.
I can't remember the last time I shed tears over a video game. I have never before been so attached to fictional characters. It was an amazing, emotionally engaging journey.
But thanks to the ending, I'm not sure I can play it again.
#40
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:42
Without a doubt, it's easily one of the best games I've played. There were some minor annoyances (animation, mission journal, Joker leaning on a bar, walking normally, and cracking his fingers, dream sequences), but in everything else I couldn't find fault.
I even liked the endings - as long as they were taken by themselves and not in the context of the trilogy.
I even liked the endings - as long as they were taken by themselves and not in the context of the trilogy.
#41
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:42
Yea i really enjoyed up until the confrontation with TIM. I had some minor issues with certain directions they went with, mainly cerberus and the ME2 LI's but i could live with them. The endings left a bad taste in my mouth.
#42
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:43
I agree. This is the best video game i've played in my whole life.
to bad for the endings.
to bad for the endings.
#43
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:45
-REDACTED- wrote...
Even with the ending it's still the best game I've ever played. Those last 5 minutes will not ruin what was an incredible journey for me.
seconded!
glad to see some form of possitivity for a change
i would say my favorit ein order are
me1
me3
me2
me3 storywise blew me2 out of the water
gameplay wise its very similar but with some new ways to play wich i really do enjoy
i will say though i give this a 9.5 but i want to give it a 10 but the bugs are what prevent it
so from me a 9.5 is the right score imo for the right things in wich this did in fact deliver
#44
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:46
Tazzmission wrote...
-REDACTED- wrote...
Even with the ending it's still the best game I've ever played. Those last 5 minutes will not ruin what was an incredible journey for me.
seconded!
glad to see some form of possitivity for a change
i would say my favorit ein order are
me1
me3
me2
me3 storywise blew me2 out of the water
gameplay wise its very similar but with some new ways to play wich i really do enjoy
i will say though i give this a 9.5 but i want to give it a 10 but the bugs are what prevent it
so from me a 9.5 is the right score imo for the right things in wich this did in fact deliver
Thinking the ending is original really invalidates your opinion for me. =/
#45
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:47
ME3 combat with the story progression of ME1 and the characters and atmosphere of ME2 and I'd be in heaven.
ME2 was my favourite by far, however.
ME2 was my favourite by far, however.
#46
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:49
ignoring the ending yes
#47
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:50
Put me down as a "hell no" on the thread's big question.
Even if you ignore the ending, you still have that narrative abortion that is the first hour to contend with. You also have the game's propensity to throw its own foundational rules under the bus in the name of "action". (Such as when you have to paint the Reaper destroyer on Rannoch, because it's not like most of the major shipboard weapons fire kinetic penetrators that have no active guidance component and whose firing solutions are derived from mathematical formulas that are established in the present day--...oh, wait.) And the fact that Cerberus can now be anywhere, at any time, for no real reason other than that the script says it's time to fight something other than huskified versions of the major galactic races.
ME3 is a fine game with plenty of narrative high points, especially if you import a save from ME2. But it suffers acutely from being too big, too loud, and too dumb for its own good. Remember when Mass Effect was a reasonably hard space opera? Oh man, those were the days...
Even if you ignore the ending, you still have that narrative abortion that is the first hour to contend with. You also have the game's propensity to throw its own foundational rules under the bus in the name of "action". (Such as when you have to paint the Reaper destroyer on Rannoch, because it's not like most of the major shipboard weapons fire kinetic penetrators that have no active guidance component and whose firing solutions are derived from mathematical formulas that are established in the present day--...oh, wait.) And the fact that Cerberus can now be anywhere, at any time, for no real reason other than that the script says it's time to fight something other than huskified versions of the major galactic races.
ME3 is a fine game with plenty of narrative high points, especially if you import a save from ME2. But it suffers acutely from being too big, too loud, and too dumb for its own good. Remember when Mass Effect was a reasonably hard space opera? Oh man, those were the days...
Modifié par Juumanistra, 10 mars 2012 - 05:51 .
#48
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:50
ME3 is the best game I have played this generation, minus the ending. If they slap on a satisfying shephard lives ending and gave you missions where you can help civilizations rebuild from the reaper invasion, that would be golden.
#49
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:53
Yes, it is. And the end is good enough if you can handle it.
#50
Posté 10 mars 2012 - 05:53
I like the ending.





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