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[Asiant]

The Arrival DLC is probably the most important DLC next to Shadow Broker, it mentions dark energy also. Since it is a plot DLC and last DLC, why mention dark energy if its not important or irrelevant to the plot...

[Malachite73]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Still waiting for someone to show anyone other than the exiled Quarians (and then, glossing over it by mentioning it TWICE in the game. TWICE) actually looking into Dark energy.

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You either enjoy being contrary, or you haven't read the IGN article.  Dark Energy was the original idea, and Tali's mission gives a big hint it will come into play later.

Miranda's mission only mentions her father during that mission, yet they resolved that in a big way later.

At the very least, even if they weren't doing the dark energy ending, they could at least address the fact there is a force killing suns in our galaxy.

[Bourne Endeavor]

marshalleck wrote...

Malachite73 wrote...

@marshalleck

Or because Drew Karpyshyn quit and there was bad blood.

Or not, because he didn't quit. He was sent to work on TOR. He was instrumental on the KOTOR franchise as well. 

Sheesh, you people. 

Oh, you mean recently. Yeah, I doubt they rewrote all of ME3 in 2 weeks.

Of course not. Two weeks isn't enough, it requires effort to write the abomination that were these endings.

[pomrink]

http://www.ign.com/b...lers.250066288/


He is right. Plot was meant to be about dark energy. What could have been...

[Malachite73]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Malachite73 wrote...

You either enjoy being contrary, or you haven't read the IGN article.  Dark Energy was the original idea, and Tali's mission gives a big hint it will come into play later.

Miranda's mission only mentions her father during that mission, yet they resolved that in a big way later.

At the very least, even if they weren't doing the dark energy ending, they could at least address the fact there is a force killing suns in our galaxy.

Words don't matter. What actually happened matters.

I haven't gotten to Miranda's father's culmination. But her LM was completely centered around her father, and almost every conversation with her brought up her father and the effects he had on her (referring to ME2 here). In addition, when you meet up with her in ME3, the first thing she wants to talk about is her father.

Dark energy is mentioned less than five times in the entire series. It doesn't qualify for an ending in any way, shape, or form.

Wait, you "haven't gotten to MIranda's father's culmination?"  You haven't even beaten the game?  

Why don't you beat the game instead of being contrary?

Stop defending an ending you haven't even seen yet... trust me, you will join with us and complain.

[Asiant]

dark energy is the basis for mass effect fields, the game name is called Mass Effect...take what you will from that

...the game wouldnt be called mass Effect if it was focused on synthetics...it be called the Matrix

Modifié par Asiant, 10 mars 2012 - 07:23 .

[marshalleck]

pomrink wrote...

He is right. Plot was meant to be about dark energy. What could have been...

...was even worse than what we got. Seriously. You're just attaching all your pent-up hopes and aspirations to "this other thing" which would supposedly be so much better? No. Killing organic civilization to "stop dark energy" isn't good. Just like Reapers wanting humans for their "genetic diversity" wasn't good in ME2, and was sensibly abandoned. 

[pomrink]

Nothing could be worse then what we got. Shoehorned crap. Ripping off any robot war series using complete circular logic. too much rage to describe anger.......

[Heathen Pride]

marshalleck wrote...

pomrink wrote...

He is right. Plot was meant to be about dark energy. What could have been...

...was even worse than what we got. Seriously. You're just attaching all your pent-up hopes and aspirations to "this other thing" which would supposedly be so much better? No. Killing organic civilization to "stop dark energy" isn't good. Just like Reapers wanting humans for their "genetic diversity" wasn't good in ME2, and was sensibly abandoned. 

Nah bro, almost anything would have been better than destroying all organic life to prevent synthetics from destroying all organic life.

Modifié par Heathen Pride, 10 mars 2012 - 07:26 .

[Malachite73]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Malachite73 wrote...

Wait, you "haven't gotten to MIranda's father's culmination?"  You haven't even beaten the game?  

Why don't you beat the game instead of being contrary?

Stop defending an ending you haven't even seen yet... trust me, you will join with us and complain.

I know about the ending, pal.

Shep dies, Normandy crew crashes, mass relays destroyed, etc.

We aren't talking about that. OP made a claim, that Dark Energy is/was a viable ending. That's the topic.

It's not that it was a viable ending... IT was the ending planned since ME1... it was change in the latter parts of the series.

You are defending a series because you like it... I understand that.  I used to be one of the biggest fans of this game (since before ME1), and if people had told me the ending sucked, and I hadn't beat it, I probably would have fought them too... but until you beat it, and see all of your work from ME1 and ME2, and even ME3 go down the drain, its hard for me to believe you have a complete picture.

At the point you're at in the game, I was still in ME heaven... I loved the game up until the end.

Modifié par Malachite73, 10 mars 2012 - 07:38 .

[Asiant]

Malachite73 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Malachite73 wrote...

Wait, you "haven't gotten to MIranda's father's culmination?"  You haven't even beaten the game?  

Why don't you beat the game instead of being contrary?

Stop defending an ending you haven't even seen yet... trust me, you will join with us and complain.

I know about the ending, pal.

Shep dies, Normandy crew crashes, mass relays destroyed, etc.

We aren't talking about that. OP made a claim, that Dark Energy is/was a viable ending. That's the topic.

It's not that it was a viable ending... IT was the ending planned since ME1... it was change in the latter parts of the series.

You are defending a series because you like it... I understand that.  I used to be one of the biggest fans of this game (since before ME1), and if people had told me the ending sucked, and I hadn't beat it, I probably would have fought them too... but until you beat it, and see all of your work from ME1 and ME2, and even ME3 go down the drain, its hard for me to believe you have a complete picture.

Same here, HUGE ME fan, I played all the games, read all the comics...even read the 1st book ( I hate reading)...I even defended the endings and did not believe it until 1 day ago I beat the game...I now accept the endings for what it is, but it does not justify that the endings are right

[Asiant]

@Eternal Like I said, go play ME2, Tali mission and Arrival DLC clear hints of dark energy...

if you think they are not relevant or does not justify anything...then so be it, I do not wish this thread to be locked due to some arguement.

[Malachite73]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Malachite73 wrote...

1. It's not that it was a viable ending... IT was the ending planned since ME1... it was change in the latter parts of the series.

2. You are defending a series because you like it... I understand that.  I used to be one of the biggest fans of this game (since before ME1), and if people had told me the ending sucked, and I hadn't beat it, I probably would have fought them too... but until you beat it, and see all of your work from ME1 and ME2, and even ME3 go down the drain, its hard for me to believe you have a complete picture.

1. PROVE IT. And finding an article that says "Yeah this was totally the ending" isn't proof. Give us some reason from within the game why it would have ANYTHING to do with Dark Energy.

There isn't one.

2. Are you kidding? LOL. When the rumors about multiplayer started, I denied them as much as I could. I hated the thought. When we found out it was true, I was brokenhearted. I completely lost all caring about ME3, totally. Even up to two or three days before the game came out, I was here, saying I was sure it would be complete sh*t.

This has nothing to do with me liking it or not. This has everything to do with making absurd judgements of how the game would have ended, judgements that aren't backed up by the previous games at all. AT ALL.

What more can be said to you?  That article tells us the current ending and the original ending two years ago. That is good enough proof to say that it was changed. 

But you can't convince everyone, so just have it your way.  If you don't see that article as proof, then you must be right... Dark Energy came from nowhere , even though its mentioned in the Haestrom and Arrival missions, but those don't count because you say they don't.

I mean serously, an energy souce killing suns in our galaxy?  That doesn't need wrap up at all...

[pomrink]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Asiant wrote...

@Eternal Like I said, go play ME2, Tali mission and Arrival DLC clear hints of dark energy...

if you think they are not relevant or does not justify anything...then so be it, I do not wish this thread to be locked due to some arguement.

This thread will hardly be locked. This is what threads are for, for discussion and debate.

And, like I said:

Mention.Less.Than.Five.Times.In.The.Entire.Series.

That would be a horrible, horrible ending.

Its all over the codex

[Malachite73]

pomrink wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Asiant wrote...

@Eternal Like I said, go play ME2, Tali mission and Arrival DLC clear hints of dark energy...

if you think they are not relevant or does not justify anything...then so be it, I do not wish this thread to be locked due to some arguement.

This thread will hardly be locked. This is what threads are for, for discussion and debate.

And, like I said:

Mention.Less.Than.Five.Times.In.The.Entire.Series.

That would be a horrible, horrible ending.

Its all over the codex

That won't count either... because he said so.

[pomrink]

Dark energy. Go to the sections talking about mass effect fields. Game would not function without it.

[Malachite73]

Its in the codex in the Arrival dlc.... you said that didn't count.