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[ibage]

This was the original ending. If anyone recalls the leaked script back in November, this was the conclusion.

Ultimately, it came down to two options.

Join the Reapers which is better in the universal scope or kill them off taking your chances.

Dark energy was supposed to play a significant role in the ME series before they changed it up a few months back.

[dkear1]

jreezy wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

I don't want reapers to be the good guys.

They aren't evill either though.

So Hitler wasn't evil?  Or Stalin? 
Please.  They have MURDERED untold trillions of beings based on an unproven fear?
There is absolutely no way to put a good guy hat or even a neutral one on them!!!!
They murder for our good????  Pure evil....end of story.

[Malachite73]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Malachite73 wrote...

Its in the codex in the Arrival dlc.... you said that didn't count.

I never said anything of the sort. I said articles making claims about endings don't count.

And, WHAT is in the Arrival codex? Again, be specific.

Look.... if you really need this spelled out, or can't use google, the Arrival dlc codex talks about "dark energy"

Haestrom doesn't count as you said, but there is a little more....

On top of that, the Mass Effect script was leaked:

http://www.eurogamer...o-leaked-script

And, the IGN article predicts the ending of the game almost 2 years ago:

http://www.ign.com/b...lers.250066288/

Modifié par Malachite73, 10 mars 2012 - 08:04 .

[Reofeir]

Malachite73 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Malachite73 wrote...

Its in the codex in the Arrival dlc.... you said that didn't count.

I never said anything of the sort. I said articles making claims about endings don't count.

And, WHAT is in the Arrival codex? Again, be specific.

Look.... if you really need this spelled out, or can't use google, the Arrival dlc codex talks about "dark energy"

Haestrom doesn't count as you said, but there is a little more....

On top of that, the Mass Effect script was leaked:

http://www.eurogamer...o-leaked-script

And, the IGN article predicts the ending of the game almost 2 years ago:

http://www.ign.com/b...lers.250066288/

You do realise he is asking for the specific codex in which explained dark enegery. If you're saying there's a codex in arrival literally called "Dark energy", you still haven't awnsered the question. 
He will continue to tell you to stop linking the links to a website artilcle, and will continue to prove him wrong with the codex.

[Malachite73]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Malachite73 wrote...

Look.... if you really need this spelled out, or can't use google, the Arrival dlc codex talks about "dark energy"

Haestrom doesn't count as you said, but there is a little more....

On top of that, the Mass Effect script was leaked:

http://www.eurogamer...o-leaked-script

And, the IGN article predicts the ending of the game almost 2 years ago:

http://www.ign.com/b...lers.250066288/

You're determined to ignore the issue, aren't you.

What in the game indicates that the ending will be based on dark energy?

Two or three mentions of dark energy do not qualify as reasons why the entire series ending would be based on it.

Codex entries mentioning or talking about dark energy have not one thing to do with the entire series ending being based on it. If codex entries are reasons for endings, then the ending should be based on the Normandy, because there's plenty of entries on that.

You're just wasting time now. Please answer that question.

You should join debate... I concede.  I'm not going to do all your research so you can tell me I'm still wrong.  Your an upset, stubborn fanboy... I would have been just like you two days ago.  If you truly enjoy the ending given, and choose to ignore all credible video game news companies there is nothing more i can do for you.  But just because you can't use google, I will leave you with a gift:

http://www.videogame...ame_anyway.html

http://www.pcgamer.c...n-wake-of-leak/

http://www.itproport...-3-script-leak/

http://pastebin.com/ferTx1qx

... none of these count of course.

[NurseMack]

I feel the need to point this out.

During Mass Effect 1, you encountered a few side quests that involved Cerberus (Admiral Kohoku quest for example).

In Mass Effect 2, they became a main focus. Also in Mass Effect 2, there were hints at dark energy buildup. Those being Tali's mission on Haestrom, and Gianna Parasini mentions it aswell if you meet her on Illium. Something about clients interested in dark energy buildup. I honestly can't remember if it was mentioned in Arrival or not.

But here is another interesting idea...

The Mu Relay, that led to Ilos. A nearby star went supernova and sent the relay missing. The dark energy buildup is because element zero releases it when an electric current it put through it. That's a fact in the Mass Effect universe. Mass Relays are big things, and we cannot even guess how much dark energy it can release, but it's pretty damned obvious that it can release a lot. So...The Mu Relay could of been the catalyst for the star going supernova due to dark energy buildup.

To me, it seemed like foreshadowing. They were hinting at things for the next games.

Now I'm not saying that the dark energy buildup was the original ending. To me it could be, or it could not be. But I noticed the dark energy topic early on after I beat ME2 a few times and I thought it would play a significant role in Mass Effect 3. I even had some speculation blowing up Earth's sun via dark energy buildup would be a renegade ending to destroy the Reapers. We can argue that the dark energy was set to play a major role in the series since Mass Effect 1. But to expand on this further in Mass Effect 2 and then throw it out like Harbinger's role in Mass Effect 3 just seems wrong.

Either way, I still don't believe the endings are right.

[NurseMack]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

NurseMack wrote...

I feel the need to point this out.

During Mass Effect 1, you encountered a few side quests that involved Cerberus (Admiral Kohoku quest for example).

In Mass Effect 2, they became a main focus. Also in Mass Effect 2, there were hints at dark energy buildup. Those being Tali's mission on Haestrom, and Gianna Parasini mentions it aswell if you meet her on Illium. Something about clients interested in dark energy buildup. I honestly can't remember if it was mentioned in Arrival or not.

But here is another interesting idea...

The Mu Relay, that led to Ilos. A nearby star went supernova and sent the relay missing. The dark energy buildup is because element zero releases it when an electric current it put through it. That's a fact in the Mass Effect universe. Mass Relays are big things, and we cannot even guess how much dark energy it can release, but it's pretty damned obvious that it can release a lot. So...The Mu Relay could of been the catalyst for the star going supernova due to dark energy buildup.

To me, it seemed like foreshadowing. They were hinting at things for the next games.

Now I'm not saying that the dark energy buildup was the original ending. To me it could be, or it could not be. But I noticed the dark energy topic early on after I beat ME2 a few times and I thought it would play a significant role in Mass Effect 3. I even had some speculation blowing up Earth's sun via dark energy buildup would be a renegade ending to destroy the Reapers. We can argue that the dark energy was set to play a major role in the series since Mass Effect 1. But to expand on this further in Mass Effect 2 and then throw it out like Harbinger's role in Mass Effect 3 just seems wrong.

Either way, I still don't believe the endings are right.

I don't think the endings are right either. In a series where choice and consequence has been a real selling points, it's very stupid to take that away at the one point where it could come into effect the most.

But I never, never noticed any importance placed upon dark energy in all my fifteen, twenty playthroughs of ME2 and half a dozen of ME1.

There wasn't any real significance to Cerberus is ME1, aside that they were a rogue military group and killed an Admiral.



This though, when Tali and Kal'Reegar start talking about dark energy, that's clearly foreshadowing. And in Mass Effect 3, not even a hint of characters talking about dark energy.

[Destyn]

NurseMack wrote...

I feel the need to point this out.

During Mass Effect 1, you encountered a few side quests that involved Cerberus (Admiral Kohoku quest for example).

In Mass Effect 2, they became a main focus. Also in Mass Effect 2, there were hints at dark energy buildup. Those being Tali's mission on Haestrom, and Gianna Parasini mentions it aswell if you meet her on Illium. Something about clients interested in dark energy buildup. I honestly can't remember if it was mentioned in Arrival or not.

But here is another interesting idea...

The Mu Relay, that led to Ilos. A nearby star went supernova and sent the relay missing. The dark energy buildup is because element zero releases it when an electric current it put through it. That's a fact in the Mass Effect universe. Mass Relays are big things, and we cannot even guess how much dark energy it can release, but it's pretty damned obvious that it can release a lot. So...The Mu Relay could of been the catalyst for the star going supernova due to dark energy buildup.

To me, it seemed like foreshadowing. They were hinting at things for the next games.

Now I'm not saying that the dark energy buildup was the original ending. To me it could be, or it could not be. But I noticed the dark energy topic early on after I beat ME2 a few times and I thought it would play a significant role in Mass Effect 3. I even had some speculation blowing up Earth's sun via dark energy buildup would be a renegade ending to destroy the Reapers. We can argue that the dark energy was set to play a major role in the series since Mass Effect 1. But to expand on this further in Mass Effect 2 and then throw it out like Harbinger's role in Mass Effect 3 just seems wrong.

Either way, I still don't believe the endings are right.

The dark energy part being missing from ME3 bugged me as well.

If the mass relays were indeed the problem it would make their destruction via the crucible more reasonable (as opposed to random and pointless). As the Reapers built the relays, perhaps they would cull the organic races to delay or stop the process from happening (keeping a record of them in Reaper form)? After 50,000 years the dark energy build up dissipates, rinse and repeat. 

That's where I thought they would take it anyways.

[SomeKindaEnigma]

PoliteAssasin wrote...

The original ending was supposed to be about dark energy and the reapers trying to prevent it. Would have been better than the hypocritical machine slaughter stuff we got.


-Polite

Definitely agree.  Just saw Drew Karpyshyn's initial proposed endings for the first time... much better than what we got, especially when the dark energy thing started to get built up in ME2.

[emperoralku]

SomeKindaEnigma wrote..

Definitely agree.  Just saw Drew Karpyshyn's initial proposed endings for the first time... much better than what we got, especially when the dark energy thing started to get built up in ME2.

Where?