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[BlackDragonBane]

Extort wrote...

 The planet is Earth. Why? Coz they never made it to the relay before it blew up and there are birds in the dam sky... no other planet has earth's life forms.

Now the two moons thing... well it could be another moon pulled in by the citadel.. but im not an astronomer just like the rest of u guys so prove me wrong.

The Citadel had no moons around it or anywhere near it and just because there were birds doesn't mean it was Earth. If you look in the Presidum Commons, you'll see birds that look alot like pigeons but clearly aren't. Unless Joker flew FTL to another system near Sol, the only other 'explaination' is that he managed to jump through the relay before the pulse way hit it and destroyed it, which still makes no sense to me without proper context as to WHY he was high-tailing it away from Earth.

[Extort]

BlackDragonBane wrote...

Extort wrote...

 The planet is Earth. Why? Coz they never made it to the relay before it blew up and there are birds in the dam sky... no other planet has earth's life forms.

Now the two moons thing... well it could be another moon pulled in by the citadel.. but im not an astronomer just like the rest of u guys so prove me wrong.

The Citadel had no moons around it or anywhere near it and just because there were birds doesn't mean it was Earth. If you look in the Presidum Commons, you'll see birds that look alot like pigeons but clearly aren't. Unless Joker flew FTL to another system near Sol, the only other 'explaination' is that he managed to jump through the relay before the pulse way hit it and destroyed it, which still makes no sense to me without proper context as to WHY he was high-tailing it away from Earth.

okay that wont work because for starters there are no 'systems; around earth. go to galaxy map there is no nebulae to jump across near Sol. second ur right it would be stupid for them to jump relays before, because they would get vaporized when they make it through on the other side. it is also reaaalll unlikely that jeff magically crashed the normandy into a garden world, should he have met an unkown planet.. 

[MACharlie1]

Extort wrote...

 The planet is Earth. Why? Coz they never made it to the relay before it blew up and there are birds in the dam sky... no other planet has earth's life forms.

Now the two moons thing... well it could be another moon pulled in by the citadel.. but im not an astronomer just like the rest of u guys so prove me wrong.

I assumed he did make it to the Relay and was hit while in transit to another relay. 

[askanec]

Yeah, I was kinda wondering how the Normandy got to the jungle area. It's probably Bioware's way to show some of your crew members made it alive, and that the story of Shepard was eventually passed down through the generations.

For people who played DA2, they would be familiar with Varric, a party member who narrates the protagonist Hawke's story through the game. It was speculated that Varric embellish some parts of Hawke's story (such as Hawke's sister appearing even more busty than she actually was). If we take the same story telling approach, the old man at the end of ME3 would be telling the story of Shepard and perhaps making up stuff on some parts, such as the citadel beam part in which no one else (except Anderson and TIM, both of whom later died) was able to follow Shepard and say what exactly happened. That might explain how things with the Catalyst seem rather sudden and wonky.

[BlackDragonBane]

Extort wrote...

BlackDragonBane wrote...

Extort wrote...

 The planet is Earth. Why? Coz they never made it to the relay before it blew up and there are birds in the dam sky... no other planet has earth's life forms.

Now the two moons thing... well it could be another moon pulled in by the citadel.. but im not an astronomer just like the rest of u guys so prove me wrong.

The Citadel had no moons around it or anywhere near it and just because there were birds doesn't mean it was Earth. If you look in the Presidum Commons, you'll see birds that look alot like pigeons but clearly aren't. Unless Joker flew FTL to another system near Sol, the only other 'explaination' is that he managed to jump through the relay before the pulse way hit it and destroyed it, which still makes no sense to me without proper context as to WHY he was high-tailing it away from Earth.

okay that wont work because for starters there are no 'systems; around earth. go to galaxy map there is no nebulae to jump across near Sol. second ur right it would be stupid for them to jump relays before, because they would get vaporized when they make it through on the other side. it is also reaaalll unlikely that jeff magically crashed the normandy into a garden world, should he have met an unkown planet.. 

Jeff being a top-class pilot, plus having EDI, he could have already had a destination in mind but the big hole here is WHY he was headed to a relay in the first place. The only reason he was flying as hard as he was because that had to be the pulse wave that was jumping through each relay, the energy resulting in the Normandy's systems failing and the crash landing. There was no need to out-run the pulse itself because it didn't harm any of the other ships or even the ground units.

That's really the only thing I could come up with as to why the energy pulse affected the Normandy but we're basically just grasping at straws here until we're either provided for context that'll help explain or we move on to something else.

[MPSai]

askanec wrote...

Yeah, I was kinda wondering how the Normandy got to the jungle area. It's probably Bioware's way to show some of your crew members made it alive, and that the story of Shepard was eventually passed down through the generations.

For people who played DA2, they would be familiar with Varric, a party member who narrates the protagonist Hawke's story through the game. It was speculated that Varric embellish some parts of Hawke's story (such as Hawke's sister appearing even more busty than she actually was). If we take the same story telling approach, the old man at the end of ME3 would be telling the story of Shepard and perhaps making up stuff on some parts, such as the citadel beam part in which no one else (except Anderson and TIM, both of whom later died) was able to follow Shepard and say what exactly happened. That might explain how things with the Catalyst seem rather sudden and wonky.

Yeah but Varric was a framing device for the entire plot, to pull that at the end would be kind of bull****ty. And also there isn't exactly any evidence for it. 

BlackDragonBane wrote...

That's really the only thing I could come up with as to why the energy pulse affected the Normandy but we're basically just grasping at straws here until we're either provided for context that'll help explain or we move on to something else.

 

It's possible that it wasn't the pulse (except maybe in the Destroy ending) and Joker just overloaded the ship trying to outrun the pulse. 

Modifié par MPSai, 10 mars 2012 - 04:52 .

[askanec]

BlackDragonBane wrote...

Jeff being a top-class pilot, plus having EDI, he could have already had a destination in mind but the big hole here is WHY he was headed to a relay in the first place. The only reason he was flying as hard as he was because that had to be the pulse wave that was jumping through each relay, the energy resulting in the Normandy's systems failing and the crash landing. There was no need to out-run the pulse itself because it didn't harm any of the other ships or even the ground units.

That's really the only thing I could come up with as to why the energy pulse affected the Normandy but we're basically just grasping at straws here until we're either provided for context that'll help explain or we move on to something else.

Ships with FTL drives can jump without mass relays. Just look at the beginning cinematic of ME2 in which the old Normandy jumped in next to the planet. To make that even more clear, Joker said, "Disengaging FTL drives"

Also, when Joker freed EDI during the Collector attack on the Normandy, the ship did a FTL jump right there and then.

[Extort]

askanec wrote...

BlackDragonBane wrote...

Jeff being a top-class pilot, plus having EDI, he could have already had a destination in mind but the big hole here is WHY he was headed to a relay in the first place. The only reason he was flying as hard as he was because that had to be the pulse wave that was jumping through each relay, the energy resulting in the Normandy's systems failing and the crash landing. There was no need to out-run the pulse itself because it didn't harm any of the other ships or even the ground units.

That's really the only thing I could come up with as to why the energy pulse affected the Normandy but we're basically just grasping at straws here until we're either provided for context that'll help explain or we move on to something else.

Ships with FTL drives can jump without mass relays. Just look at the beginning cinematic of ME2 in which the old Normandy jumped in next to the planet. To make that even more clear, Joker said, "Disengaging FTL drives"

Also, when Joker freed EDI during the Collector attack on the Normandy, the ship did a FTL jump right there and then.

this is where your wrong buddy and its easy to prove why. you on the glaxy map traverse nubelae with FTL speeds then you fill up at the gas station. the mass relays are incredible. they connect stars hundreds of light years apart. the only way to manually get to the other side is with a stadium full of fuel, a truck full of food and hope a space rock doesnt vaporize your ship while your crew sleeps. in other words no. also to clarify there are no known stars nearby earth's atleast not in game

Modifié par Extort, 10 mars 2012 - 05:06 .

[BlackDragonBane]

askanec wrote...

BlackDragonBane wrote...

Jeff being a top-class pilot, plus having EDI, he could have already had a destination in mind but the big hole here is WHY he was headed to a relay in the first place. The only reason he was flying as hard as he was because that had to be the pulse wave that was jumping through each relay, the energy resulting in the Normandy's systems failing and the crash landing. There was no need to out-run the pulse itself because it didn't harm any of the other ships or even the ground units.

That's really the only thing I could come up with as to why the energy pulse affected the Normandy but we're basically just grasping at straws here until we're either provided for context that'll help explain or we move on to something else.

Ships with FTL drives can jump without mass relays. Just look at the beginning cinematic of ME2 in which the old Normandy jumped in next to the planet. To make that even more clear, Joker said, "Disengaging FTL drives"

Also, when Joker freed EDI during the Collector attack on the Normandy, the ship did a FTL jump right there and then.

I had actually forgotten about that and the Normandy is a state-of the art ship. Perhaps it can FTL jump further than what is considered 'normal'

[EDIT] In hindsight, FTL travel still seems far fetched because then the pulse released by the Crucible shouldn't have damaged the Normandy, unless it was concentrated like it was jumping between all the relays.

Modifié par BlackDragonBane, 10 mars 2012 - 05:09 .

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Space magic

[askanec]

BlackDragonBane wrote...
I had actually forgotten about that and the Normandy is a state-of the art ship. Perhaps it can FTL jump further than what is considered 'normal'

All ships equipped with FTL drives can jump. It's right in the Mass Effect Wikia:

"FTL, an abbreviation of faster-than-light, is a method of traveling faster than the speed of light which does not involve the use of mass relays. Once a vessel makes a jump via a mass relay, conventional FTL can be used to move around the space surrounding it at reasonable speed."

[MPSai]

Extort wrote...

this is where your wrong buddy and its easy to prove why. you on the glaxy map traverse nubelae with FTL speeds then you fill up at the gas station. the mass relays are incredible. they connect stars hundreds of light years apart. the only way to manually get to the other side is with a stadium full of fuel, a truck full of food and hope a space rock doesnt vaporize your ship while your crew sleeps. in other words no. also to clarify there are no known stars nearby earth's atleast not in game

Of course in 2 if you ran out of fuel you could apparently just throw any old thing into the gas tank to keep going 

It would still take longer to travel FTL without the relays though. The relays provide instantaneous travel between them.

Modifié par MPSai, 10 mars 2012 - 05:11 .

[Legendaryred]

Oh the plotholes.

[Virgl]

[quote]Extort wrote...

 The planet is Earth. Why? Coz they never made it to the relay before it blew up and there are birds in the dam sky... no other planet has earth's life forms.

Now the two moons thing... well it could be another moon pulled in by the citadel.. but im not an astronomer just like the rest of u guys so prove me wrong.
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A lot of other planets have birds... (the citadel even has earthlike birds...). This ending planet is not Earth, two fricking gigantic moons and  strange rock formations, as well as the fact that Bioware made it completely mysterious, this is not Earth. 

[Extort]

MPSai wrote...

Extort wrote...

this is where your wrong buddy and its easy to prove why. you on the glaxy map traverse nubelae with FTL speeds then you fill up at the gas station. the mass relays are incredible. they connect stars hundreds of light years apart. the only way to manually get to the other side is with a stadium full of fuel, a truck full of food and hope a space rock doesnt vaporize your ship while your crew sleeps. in other words no. also to clarify there are no known stars nearby earth's atleast not in game

Of course in 2 if you ran out of fuel you could apparently just throw any old thing into the gas tank to keep going 

It would still take longer to travel FTL without the relays though. The relays provide instantaneous travel between them.

*sigh*
 you still dont get it...

[MPSai]

Virgl wrote...

A lot of other planets have birds... (the citadel even has earthlike birds...). This ending planet is not Earth, two fricking gigantic moons and  strange rock formations, as well as the fact that Bioware made it completely mysterious, this is not Earth. 

Yeah the Quarian homeworld appeared to have birds but... Earth DOES have some pretty strange rock formations.

I still hold out hope it wasn't double moons but the orbiting Citadel. Bah. 

[LPPrince]

First of all, how in the hell can it be Earth if Joker was flying the Normandy out of the Sol System in the first place?

[betd2]

my friend joked that they're on the planet that Jacob's father crashed on. So when the Normandy runs out of MREs they're all gonna become stupid. Except for Tali and Garrus who probably can't eat the local food and they'll just starve to death, surrounded by retards.

[MPSai]

LPPrince wrote...

First of all, how in the hell can it be Earth if Joker was flying the Normandy out of the Sol System in the first place?

I don't see any evidence he actually left the Sol system. Granted that probably is the intention but it's so vague and half-assed who knows. 

[LPPrince]

It'd be funny if they landed on Aite(Project Overlord's planet).

Garrus and Tali-"Hey, this is familiar..."

[BlackDragonBane]

MPSai wrote...

Virgl wrote...

A lot of other planets have birds... (the citadel even has earthlike birds...). This ending planet is not Earth, two fricking gigantic moons and  strange rock formations, as well as the fact that Bioware made it completely mysterious, this is not Earth. 

Yeah the Quarian homeworld appeared to have birds but... Earth DOES have some pretty strange rock formations.

I still hold out hope it wasn't double moons but the orbiting Citadel. Bah. 

That would only be feasible if the Citadel didn't blow up, which I'm sure it did for people who chose Synthesis. With that variant, it just simply can't be Earth he crash landed the Normandy on

[The Mythical Magician]

I think it's the Pyjak Planet from ME1? I can't remember the name of it...

[LPPrince]

The Mythical Magician wrote...

I think it's the Pyjak Planet from ME1? I can't remember the name of it...

You're thinking of Eletania.

[MPSai]

BlackDragonBane wrote...

MPSai wrote...

Virgl wrote...

A lot of other planets have birds... (the citadel even has earthlike birds...). This ending planet is not Earth, two fricking gigantic moons and  strange rock formations, as well as the fact that Bioware made it completely mysterious, this is not Earth. 

Yeah the Quarian homeworld appeared to have birds but... Earth DOES have some pretty strange rock formations.

I still hold out hope it wasn't double moons but the orbiting Citadel. Bah. 

That would only be feasible if the Citadel didn't blow up, which I'm sure it did for people who chose Synthesis. With that variant, it just simply can't be Earth he crash landed the Normandy on

I saw some explosions on it but I don't think it blew up. 

[LPPrince]

Wonder what happened to all the civvies on the Citadel.