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Spectre_Shepard

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5 years. That's how long I've been with Mass Effect, waiting for this moment. And for you guys, I know it's been even longer.

So why?

Why, after 5 years of waiting and hoping for a satisfying conclusion to your greatest masterpiece to date, did you choose the route you did?

Man, I don't get it. I mean, I know it's just a video game and all. I shouldn't care that much. But I grew up with this story. It is important to me in the kind of way that only seemingly irrelevant can be. Playing Mass Effect changed my perceptions of what modern storytelling and imaginative fiction can accomplish.

And the worst part is, you were SO close. Two masterpieces with ME1 and ME2, and then somehow, impossibly, for the first 39 hours and 50 minutes of ME3, you outdid yourselves again. Unquestionably the crown jewel of the series, your capstone, the conclusion that would cement you as possibly the greatest storytellers in your medium, IMO.

And you blew it. All in 10 minutes. Record time.

I had 3 shepards raring to go for an ME3 playthrough. I, like many others, have replayed ME1 and 2 many times. I planned on playing and replaying your series from ME1 all the way through for years to come. Heck, I'd even make my kids play it. 

Now that I know what lies at the end of the journey, I just can't.

You guys had it, it was right there for you, but you let it get away. And I just don't understand why. 

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SandTrout

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They didn't just let it get away, that apparently loaded it in a Everest class dreadnought's main gun and sent it sun-wards.

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SinZinDetta

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I still got 4 careers I was going to play but after that last ending I do not know if I can play knowing the outcome. Since when did simple "happily ever after" endings become to cliche?

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I just can't accept these endings. It's too painful. Mass Effect is what inspired me to start writing. Mass Effect defined my teenage years and to see it end like this. It just hurts so much. I can't believe what they did I just can't.

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The ending is equivalent to the writers placing your head level with their crotch, slowly unzipping their pants while you can't do anything to speed up the horrifying process.(just like you can't skip through the idiotically drawn out cinematic that's exactly the same each time scratch mild alteration) Then they unceremoniously lash you across the face with their genitalia in three different ways. The problem is, either way you choose be undignified you still can't escape the fact that you've just been **** slapped. To add insult to injury you probably paid ~50$ for the experience.

Modifié par falloutgod13, 10 mars 2012 - 07:19 .


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SinZinDetta wrote...

I still got 4 careers I was going to play but after that last ending I do not know if I can play knowing the outcome. Since when did simple "happily ever after" endings become to cliche?


Yeah I know, and that's what everyone on the forums wanted "a happily ever after"

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I have to agree. No matter what "ending" you choose, the same thing happens to Shepard! And, considering it's the end of the series, I was somewhat expecting to hear what happens to all the surviving current/former squad members, what happens short term between all the races, etc. etc..

I mean, I wasn't expecting every ending Shepard would survive, but at least give him one happy ending! I was expecting more from this ending, something... Amazing. The game itself was so captivating I couldn't stop playing. Some days I literally had to hit myself to get away from so I could actually get some stuff done!

But I will wait and get all the DLC. Perhaps you have something planned that ties in with a DLC altering the ending or perhaps making some sense, instead of this kind of ending where "Oh this was just some guy telling his grandchild a story" kind of ending.

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I don't care if these ending were still in the game but I was hoping that we'd get at least one ending where we see a "happily ever after" where we settle down with our romance choice and help rebuild the galaxy united together (and maybe some quick scenes showing what happenedto everyone).

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falloutgod13 wrote...

The ending is equivalent to the writers placing your head level with their crotch, slowly unzipping their pants while you can't do anything to speed up the horrifying process.(just like you can't skip through the idiotically drawn out cinematic that's exactly the same each time scratch mild alteration) Then they unceremoniously lash you across the face with their genitalia in three different ways. The problem is, either way you choose be undignified you still can't escape the fact that you've just been **** slapped. To add insult to injury you probably paid ~50$ for the experience.


I lol'ed so much to this that it actually feels better out of my past 24 hours depression thanks to the endings still carved in my mind, torturing me.

Thanks.

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i would have had mutiple shepards to play through, but i dint like ME2 enough to play it ever again. this one is worth playing again, although i'll never forget that 72 hour long save file in ME1.

and that was just one save file

Modifié par John Locke N7, 10 mars 2012 - 07:24 .


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falloutgod13

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Lyrandori wrote...

falloutgod13 wrote...

The ending is equivalent to the writers placing your head level with their crotch, slowly unzipping their pants while you can't do anything to speed up the horrifying process.(just like you can't skip through the idiotically drawn out cinematic that's exactly the same each time scratch mild alteration) Then they unceremoniously lash you across the face with their genitalia in three different ways. The problem is, either way you choose be undignified you still can't escape the fact that you've just been **** slapped. To add insult to injury you probably paid ~50$ for the experience.


I lol'ed so much to this that it actually feels better out of my past 24 hours depression thanks to the endings still carved in my mind, torturing me.

Thanks.


:D You know I'm only speaking the truth about the "experience". 

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OP is pretty well stated imo, though my main complaint is that the end is simply too brief and really doesn't offer any closure to the characters' stories at all.

I'm actually okay with the events, but the presentation and exposition of said events is very lacking.

Modifié par marshalleck, 10 mars 2012 - 07:27 .


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I cried, I literally cried. I am a grown ass man and I cried. I have put over 100 hours per career over 4 careers into this wonderful series over the last 5 years. This series has been my favorite form of media; be it books television, movies or video games; Mass Effect has been my favorite of all time. For nearly 40 hours I was ready to keep that legacy going. Then the impossible happened. In that last ONE MINUTE scene of my dear friends who I have come to love stepping out of the Normandy onto an unknown planet God knows how far away from civilization, I lost it. I wept. I wept for my friends, I wept for my (main) Shepard, who I consider canon, who gave his life to create a new galaxy (synergy ending),I wept because Tali, the girl I spent 5 years goring to love will never see the man she loves most in the world again, I wept because I had done everything right, but because I didn't play the f***ing multiplayer I got a subpar ending, but most of all I wept because a series I love, the series I love most in this world got a sh*t ending.

Please Bioware, from one an extremely devoted fan who (against all odds) has not lost faith yet, fix this ending. Give us a (very difficult to attain) happy ending.

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The last 20minutes of the game was nothing but a suffer to those who love the game deeply. I tried my best to justify what happened but I just couldn't. Fans deserve something better, not three scripted endings that tossed all your decisions and relationships from all these time into trash, not to mention those three endings aren't much different at all.

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Regardless, I knew it would be all smoke and mirrors with ME2's suicide mission. I knew it before when bioware partnered with EA. Video game devs with such notoriously backhanded publishers never get the chance to shine the brightest. When you couple that with the players like the gamer who did the "Blonde Shepard" run and pure paragons you have a player-base that is impossible to compensate with.

In no way am I pandering to them. ME3 is a mess, uneven as hell. One moment it's great. The next it's cringe-worthy fanservice. Then it's absolutely horrible writing, and finally it's great again.

I'm cynical as all hell so I thought the ending was going to be railroaded to something along the lines of this. When it happened I wasn't disappointed. I felt a little betrayed that 100 hours of my life spent in the first game was invalidated (not even a bad novel has done this to me).

Personally, I think you're one of a group of people I feel sorry for. You let the end-game hype get you. It happens to all of us, and you have to step away. You have to realize that games aren't like a good novel. They can't be considered a true labor of love, especially among triple A companies because it's all about the $. It becomes a trial of cutting-corners, hiding flaws, buying good reviews, and marketing with the right demoed material to deceive. Of course there's plenty of arguments against this, but I have more to tell of how triple A's fall into this.

Atleast don't get buyer's remorse and get spurred. Just take this as a lesson that things can take a nose-dive in a game and the only way to get past is look at the pros. And if you feel betrayed by Bioware, don't buy their next game. I ain't buying DA3 even if they tell me it comes with smexy lesbian elves, Gatling guns, and a bare-knuckled Brit with a bone to pick for the uncouth.

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BHynes92 wrote...

I cried, I literally cried. I am a grown ass man and I cried. I have put over 100 hours per career over 4 careers into this wonderful series over the last 5 years. This series has been my favorite form of media; be it books television, movies or video games; Mass Effect has been my favorite of all time. For nearly 40 hours I was ready to keep that legacy going. Then the impossible happened. In that last ONE MINUTE scene of my dear friends who I have come to love stepping out of the Normandy onto an unknown planet God knows how far away from civilization, I lost it. I wept. I wept for my friends, I wept for my (main) Shepard, who I consider canon, who gave his life to create a new galaxy (synergy ending),I wept because Tali, the girl I spent 5 years goring to love will never see the man she loves most in the world again, I wept because I had done everything right, but because I didn't play the f***ing multiplayer I got a subpar ending, but most of all I wept because a series I love, the series I love most in this world got a sh*t ending.

Please Bioware, from one an extremely devoted fan who (against all odds) has not lost faith yet, fix this ending. Give us a (very difficult to attain) happy ending.


To be honest, I was crying from the moment Shep and Anderson were lying by each other up to where I sacrificed him (Did all three "endings" in one go cause I wanted to see if there was any differences). I cried at the end of ME1, where it looked like Shep was crushed, and I cried at the end of ME2 when my Shep barely survived.

I'll never get rid of ME3, the game was awesome, the current ending though brings absolutely no closure. I'll wait and see what DLC's come out. And btw, I played paragon route, so I cried a number of times.

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falloutgod13 wrote...

The ending is equivalent to the writers placing your head level with their crotch, slowly unzipping their pants while you can't do anything to speed up the horrifying process.(just like you can't skip through the idiotically drawn out cinematic that's exactly the same each time scratch mild alteration) Then they unceremoniously lash you across the face with their genitalia in three different ways. The problem is, either way you choose be undignified you still can't escape the fact that you've just been **** slapped. To add insult to injury you probably paid ~50$ for the experience.


I laughed harder at this than any forum post I ever read.

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When they said they were making a multiplayer. I said. Oh great there goes a good ending....

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Spectre-Shepard, HUG! You so perfectly articulated how I feel. Extraordinary series. Wonderful third game. Phenomenal, really. And then....ruined in 10 minutes. Spot on.

I cried quite a few times during my playthrough; I had several of the "good" kind of cathartic cry moments (Mordin singing his last bit of G&S...that was so sweet and brilliant on Bioware's part.)

But the end? Heart wrenching. Sick to my stomach-oh-no-this-can't-be-happening kind of sadness. I bawled. And I'm a "grown ass woman." :(

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Me, being BioWare loyal fan... after this very day... will be just a pure imagination wasted in dark places of my soul...

ME3 is the best game I ever have played. My ultimate goddess hero finally showed her real emotions, her shiny eyes, happy hair and casual hoodie wear all over the place... and no, the hell, Liara with her big, blue, good eyes in which you can see almost the same struggle as in my warrior princess...
I don't know how some people don't want a happy ending for those 2... Liara was always there, my goddess was always there for her, but it just ... died... vanished in the storm.
On the Mars mission, my heroine went to comfort Liara by touching her face so gently with her hand... I cried like... I have no words to explain, maybe I'm too weak to express...

Or the moment when she runs for a forest child for the first time in her dreams and the terror on her face when she finally get to him...

I finally got my real Shepard as it always needed to be in my own eyes and heart... until the very end, until that beginning of ruthless and pointless emptiness, when the real storm came...

My Shepard will never parish, while she walks strong and with a heart in casual wear all over the place preparing her shiny Blood Dragon Armor for the final hit of the storm of emptiness... At least, she deserves to give herself as a true warrior in a whole heroic way...

And now, all of my other 25 courageous female Shepards are gone, 26th made it thru the end...
Acting as a dead, brutally beaten corpse....

Love is the biggest looser of all time, but we were suckers enough to try it... Goodbye Liara, I will always love you....



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We all would imagine that developers and writers would learn from the first Fallout 3 ending how that caused quite a stir..

I hope they take the same route and revise the ending in DLC, in fact that should be the very first dlc that should be put out. Why put anything else out its not like it changes the outcomes.

I'll just pretend until then that my Sheps failed the suicide mission and the galaxy was doomed

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Agreed with folks here, I have 4 different playthroughs from ME2, but I went my character first built ME1 then to ME2 and finally ME3 and learned ending is death for this well built all Paragon, Liara LI and saved everyone ... then die finally ... I dont think I can expect to play with my other playthroughs, knowing that death is what awaits them all,

Galaxy at War, is bull, I had 100% and over 7000 EMS reading yeah why can't tell Catalyst, take your reapers and leave us all alone ... okay with mass relays blow, and SR2 can pick up Shepard in end and have epilogue cutscene....done