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#26
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I refuse to apologize for providing constructive criticism. I never lashed out or said anything out of line. I want this this game to be as good as it can be, and if that means I have to be firm in my opinions then that's the way it is.

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I feel that I voiced my opinions and feelings in a collected and non-inflammatory fashion. I am not sorry that I added my voice to the sea of others that felt hurt and/or insulted by the ending(s).

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Oh, my bad, I thought they were apologizing for ruing a series I have followed for 5 years. Hey, if you want to apologize to them go right ahead. I, however, will not. If they don't give us a free patch that fixes the ending I will never buy another BioWare title. I will never buy another EA game. I will sell my copy back to gamestop. I will encourage everyone who isn't happy to do the same. That way, gamestop can get all the profits from this game, and non of those used games sales will go to BioWare or the evil company owning them.

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You guys missed my point. This isn't a 'Your complaints are wrong thread.' This is a "I went to far in defaming you." thread for the crowd that really did go too far.

What Bioware needs is supportive people, they know our disappointment and have to act fast. But due to quality and testing even if the called in Meir, Hale, the whole cast in a cab tonight to show up to fix this they'll have a lot of work to do.

The people who shouldn't apologize are the people who made their right critique and left it at that.

The people who should are the people who wrote hateful disparaging things about the writers, remarks about quitting Bioware. etc. When they didn't mean it. This is NOT a partition thread for more endings. It's a thread to try to make the staff feel a little hope. They just finished Mass Effect 3, They SHOULD be enjoying the release of their game. NOT crying over one mistake.

YES the ENDING NEEDS WORK! Everyone agrees. Hell if they had later content that followed the ending up they should have hinted at it or not made it feel so surreal, but THIS IS NOT THAT THREAD!

Now those of you participating BE NICE to Bioware, Apologize or move your complains to the other threads. I respect Bioware's work on this game. And I at least want them to know that SOME PEOPLE who spoke too far who've been loyal to this day still care. It's not a matter of the ending but supporting a good team and overall, as a whole standing with our heads held high as a community! DAMN!

<P.S> I added this update onto the first page thread to try and stop off topics.

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I say, there won't be enough complaints until they acknowledge the problem and decide to fix it! Then; I will gladly support them.

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Let's see, I fell for DA2. I fell for the $150 SW:TOR CE box, which turned out to be a 'yay statue?'. (In game vendor updated regularly! i.e. Never!). I fell for the ME3 CE, in which I got a robotic dog I never see, a hoodie that I wear over my regular outfit (How about some sweatpants with it at least?). Then I had my dozens of hours spent with my Shepard pretty much thrown away in a few minute time span.

What do I have to be sorry for? Accidentally funding EA, I apologize for that.

As said before, Bioware is a great group. (Was.) EA coming along has pretty much ruined my once favorite developer. (Assuming they rushed something/didn't like the original story/felt it was too 'intelligent' for the unwashed masses, who knows?)

Not sorry.

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SyyRaaaN wrote...

They took my money. No way im gonna apologize for that. Honestly, they should do the apologizing because they delivered an unfinished product and flawed product instead.


wow really? your  nerd raging over a stupid ending?


so since the ending was bad in your eyes that makes the gameplay or the love interests you have worthless?


i am so glad you dont write or review games because you have no clue as to what you are saying


i agree with op. i liked the endings and yes they couldve been better but seriousy people need to grow a quad and except it for what it is.


theres no reason to act like children and just be digusting torwards the devs

i like to see any of you put 3 years of your lives on hold and do what the devs did because im pretty sure there families missed them wile they were working to please the fans


and if you expected another boulders gate from 15 years ago than go play it and dont ruin the franchise by installing fear into people who enjoy it even if it is kind of cheesey

Modifié par Tazzmission, 10 mars 2012 - 07:56 .


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i have 5 sheps from me2... i only need to play this game once...

Modifié par WeAreLegionWTF, 10 mars 2012 - 07:56 .


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Hanabii wrote...

Now those of you participating BE NICE to Bioware, Apologize or move your complains to the other threads. I respect Bioware's work on this game. And I at least want them to know that SOME PEOPLE who spoke too far who've been loyal to this day still care. It's not a matter of the ending but supporting a good team and overall, as a whole standing with our heads held high as a community! DAMN!


If you want to be a little sycophant, that's your perogative. Don't expect the rest of us to be as spineless.

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Tazzmission wrote...

SyyRaaaN wrote...

They took my money. No way im gonna apologize for that. Honestly, they should do the apologizing because they delivered an unfinished product and flawed product instead.


wow really? your  nerd raging over a stupid ending?


so since the ending was bad in your eyes that makes the gameplay or the love interests you have worthless?


i am so glad you dont write or review games because you have no clue as to what you are saying


i agree with op. i liked the endings and yes they couldve been better but seriousy people need to grow a quad and except it for what it is.


theres no reason to act like children and just be digusting torwards the devs

i like to see any of you put 3 years of your lives on hold and do what the devs did because im pretty sure there families missed them wile they were working to please the fans


and if you expected another boulders gate from 15 years ago than go play it and dont ruin the franchise by installing fear into people who enjoy it even if it is kind of cheesey


If you like to smile while being fed crap, it's your choice. Don't expect us to follow your example. Also, if you want to be taken seriously, try using some punctuation and capitals. 

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@majormajormajor There is a difference between being a sycophant and being a gentleman. Being the first means I don't think people should complain about the ending. The second means I make my complaint in an orderly fashion without defaming or abusing the other person.

If you see them as one and the same you should watch some Elcor Hamlet. Because honestly the complaints are right. Just the OTHER add on tack that people fling around isn't.

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Funny if all critics like ending of the game, then other people saying the group of mass effect fans are immature and cannot handle emotionally struck endings, I mean thats reason I expected Bioware to learn, Fans are not critics, they will see things way differently. The reason that I didnt like ending of ME3 because in my life,I don't chance exploring or going adventure and come out safely, ME series delivers with final blow to face with sacrificial endings, It is now like fear, I don't want to go explore other adventures, I may not come out alive ... everyone here wants to live their lives and seek happines from games ... screw you Bioware.

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majormajormmajor wrote...

Hanabii wrote...

Now those of you participating BE NICE to Bioware, Apologize or move your complains to the other threads. I respect Bioware's work on this game. And I at least want them to know that SOME PEOPLE who spoke too far who've been loyal to this day still care. It's not a matter of the ending but supporting a good team and overall, as a whole standing with our heads held high as a community! DAMN!


If you want to be a little sycophant, that's your perogative. Don't expect the rest of us to be as spineless.


spineless?

id rather be spineless than a cry babying fanboy who believes wars are always ended with a disney fairy tail ending

Modifié par Tazzmission, 10 mars 2012 - 08:00 .


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@EVERYONE, Stay on topic, this is an apology thread for any personal attacks made against staff or game crew. It is NOT an airing board for your, "THE ENDING SUCKS!". There are a thousand of those threads and I am a a part of them.

Modifié par Hanabii, 10 mars 2012 - 08:03 .


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Tazzmission wrote...
theres no reason to act like children and just be digusting torwards the devs


Says the person acting like a child and being mean towards the massive majority on these forums who are pissed off for wasting hundreds of dollars and days of their life for absolutely nothing. At least the devs got paid for this. We paid them to take our days of playtime and flush it down the toilet.

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Responding to your request to apologize to Bioware is not off topic. I have said I won't buy another Bioware product if they don't fix the ending. I don't consider that mean or hateful. I don't buy cars or anything else that don't meet my standards. I'm not being mean or hateful, I'm buying what I want. 

I didn't spend my hard earned money looking to not like the game. I thought I would love it, and I did, until the ending. It's an honest reaction and I'm making a request to the company, giving them a chance, to make things right. If they don't fine. Life will go on, and we'll part ways.

If other folks want to apologize, I'm not stopping them or criticizing them.

End of line.

Modifié par Almostfaceman, 10 mars 2012 - 08:02 .


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KainrycKarr wrote...

I said I won't purchase another Bioware product and I meant it. It's clear the direction they are taking their games, and their writing, and it's not a direction my money will be following them in.


i agree, even if they fix it or dlc it. i will still think really carefully before i buy their next product. cause that's not the way it should be. i don't want to spent not only my money but also my  time and emotion to get what i want and deserve. it's just too much 

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Arthorius wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

SyyRaaaN wrote...

They took my money. No way im gonna apologize for that. Honestly, they should do the apologizing because they delivered an unfinished product and flawed product instead.


wow really? your  nerd raging over a stupid ending?


so since the ending was bad in your eyes that makes the gameplay or the love interests you have worthless?


i am so glad you dont write or review games because you have no clue as to what you are saying


i agree with op. i liked the endings and yes they couldve been better but seriousy people need to grow a quad and except it for what it is.


theres no reason to act like children and just be digusting torwards the devs

i like to see any of you put 3 years of your lives on hold and do what the devs did because im pretty sure there families missed them wile they were working to please the fans


and if you expected another boulders gate from 15 years ago than go play it and dont ruin the franchise by installing fear into people who enjoy it even if it is kind of cheesey


If you like to smile while being fed crap, it's your choice. Don't expect us to follow your example. Also, if you want to be taken seriously, try using some punctuation and capitals. 


and if you want to understand that wars dont end happily even when you win by researching it come back and we will  continue this debate


ps. oh im so hurt attacking my punctuation

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Tazzmission wrote...

baaaaaawwwww stop criticizing bioware



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Hanabii

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Look people, I'm trying to 'Encourage them' to put their hearts into making this right out of love for their fans and the game. NOT get them to 'shell out some crap' out of obligation.

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I believe I haven't expressed myself wrongly about the company or the game. ME3 is a great game up until the last 10 minutes of it. If I have said anything that doesn't reflect that and, instead, seems disrespectful, I apologize. I can't agree more with the OP.

Cheers

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Cool story, you do that. But I'm not following you're example. A lot of us have invested hundreds of dollars and YEARS into this franchise, and for Bioware to just go ahead and give us a middle finger like that? They better be apologizing to US before we do to them.

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I have a mixed opinion of the endings. I love the game - up until the last five minutes. The last five to ten minutes of the game (the three choices for the ending) where horrid. It ruined everything I'd built up prior to that. Yes, those three choices are hard ones to make - but someone somewhere else stated it better - those three endings would have been fine.... -if- we didn't have the prior two games where our choices made differences to the end game. In ME2 we worked hard, made choices, and there where consequences on a personal level to our Shepard (People died, ect).

In this game, we loose the personal touch - the endings just... didn't connect with me, or make sense in reference to the choices I made earlier in the game -and- in previous games. Does this mean I hate ME3? No. I hate the endings. The ending of the game, as far as I'm concerned, was when Anderson and Shepard where sitting there watching the view of Earth. -That- was a perfect Mass Effect moment. Cutting to 5 or 10 years later and laying out what happened (In text or via slide show (you know, like some of those movies where they cover at the end where the characters ended up?) with text) would have been perfect - with the big end of game weapon discharging, Maybe Shepard was vaporized? Maybe Shepard escaped? Those could easily be covered via text. Hey! If a Bioware person reads this - look at the slide show thing this way: You could use it to do a new set of endings, without having to do new CGI or voice work! The 'higher readiness' endings, shall we say? That way, folks happy with the previous endings can still have them (the CG on those -is- nice, it just.... doesn't fit given the flexibility and history of the game series)

Anyway. I make no apologies for what I said about the ending. The -rest- of the game is awesome. I would -love- for them to fix the ending. Am I holding my breath for it? Kinda. Do I expect it? Bethsda fixed the ending for Fallout 3 - in part for DLC, in part due to demand for the fans. It made sense for them to do so with in the scope of the game.

-If- they do fix the end of ME3, they need to do it in a way that makes sense with in the game.

I expected a better initial offering -BUT- after all the wonderful games that I played from Bioware, I understand that every company makes a mistake (Starcraft on the NES, anyone?), and can forgive the mistake. The ending likely works wonderfully on paper. But it's like Harrison Ford said to Lucas - You can write this ****, George, but you can't say it.

I apologize for my initial reaction. I refuse to apologize for saying that the ending doesn't fit nor feel right.

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majormajormmajor wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

baaaaaawwwww stop criticizing bioware


the only baaaaawing i see is the people who continue to duplicate threads on the same thing 


you might want to use a tissue to dry your tears child

Modifié par Tazzmission, 10 mars 2012 - 08:08 .


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I'm with you OP. I don't hate Bioware, I hate the ending. ME3 was an epic master piece, until the ending.

I'm very annoyed about the ending. Perhaps this will be fixed in a DLC. Perhaps not. But if there's one thing I know for sure, I'm keeping my ME3 copy.