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[majormajormmajor]

Tazzmission wrote...

the only baaaaawing i see is the people who continue to duplicate threads on the same thing

This thread is a hugbox for people like you. Your point is invalid.

[Arthorius]

Tazzmission wrote...


and if you want to understand that wars dont end happily even when you win by researching it come back and we will  continue this debate


ps. oh im so hurt attacking my punctuation

You should be. It's atrocious. 

Anyway. Don't BS me with that "realistic" crap. That's science-fiction. With impossible/magical objects like the Mass Effect fields in witch every specie speaks magically the same language through all the game. More than that, it's more akin to an interactive movie than a game. It was THAT good.

And we all know that the hero of the movies can survive against all odds. Shepard even more so. 

[SandTrout]

Tazzmission wrote...


and if you want to understand that wars dont end happily even when you win by researching it come back and we will continue this debate

You fail to realize that the less than happy ending is not what most people are complaining about. Most of us are pissed of at:

1) Lack of closure
2) Lack of variety
3) Breaking the universe
4) Deus/Diabols Ex Machina embodied in the Catalyst
5) Breaking from the major established themes and placing the most emphasis on the most minor theme in the game(s).
6) Railroaded into 3 necessarily bad decisions, even though better alternatives are obvious.
7) Lack of past deciscions actually being relevant.

[Painaid]

I'm not sorry at all. BioWare should be the one's apologizing to me. After witnessing that ending, I feel like this kicked me in the balls and spat in my face. All my countless hours spent on multiple play throughs, varying my choices and LI's, and it was all for -nothing-.

This is not so easily forgivable what BioWare has done to its fan base. It's cruel and disrespectful and they need to own up to it.

[Hanabii]

SandTrout wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...


and if you want to understand that wars dont end happily even when you win by researching it come back and we will continue this debate

You fail to realize that the less than happy ending is not what most people are complaining about. Most of us are pissed of at:

1) Lack of closure
2) Lack of variety
3) Breaking the universe
4) Deus/Diabols Ex Machina embodied in the Catalyst
5) Breaking from the major established themes and placing the most emphasis on the most minor theme in the game(s).
6) Railroaded into 3 necessarily bad decisions, even though better alternatives are obvious.
7) Lack of past deciscions actually being relevant.

THIS!

[Arthorius]

SandTrout wrote...

 You fail to realize that the less than happy ending is not what most people are complaining about. Most of us are pissed of at:

1) Lack of closure
2) Lack of variety
3) Breaking the universe
4) Deus/Diabols Ex Machina embodied in the Catalyst
5) Breaking from the major established themes and placing the most emphasis on the most minor theme in the game(s).
6) Railroaded into 3 necessarily bad decisions, even though better alternatives are obvious.
7) Lack of past deciscions actually being relevant.

I couldn't agree more. 

[Singu]

This is "strike two" from me. I would've expected them to have learned something from the year it has gone since the release of Dragon Age 2 - but no. They admitted that they lost the plot with that one, but clearly they didn't actually learn anything from what lead to the mistake.

Based on Baldurs Gate, Knights of the Old Republic and Neverwinter Nights I will give them one more chance. One more chance to show that they haven't lost it. One more chance to show that it's the stories that matter, not the drama and emotional trickery forced on the player with cheap writing tricks that you learn in " tv soap opera writing class - 1.01". There's been no mitigating signals coming from Bioware since the release of DA2, it's strike 2 and all the bases are full.

No way will I apologize. I will give you one more shot at digging into your roots and figuring out what it was that used to make you great. I don't know what that thing was, but it clearly wasn't an objective inhouse quality control of the wordsmithing you perform.

[pomrink]

SandTrout wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...


and if you want to understand that wars dont end happily even when you win by researching it come back and we will continue this debate

You fail to realize that the less than happy ending is not what most people are complaining about. Most of us are pissed of at:

1) Lack of closure
2) Lack of variety
3) Breaking the universe
4) Deus/Diabols Ex Machina embodied in the Catalyst
5) Breaking from the major established themes and placing the most emphasis on the most minor theme in the game(s).
6) Railroaded into 3 necessarily bad decisions, even though better alternatives are obvious.
7) Lack of past deciscions actually being relevant.

You won the internets

[AlphaDormante]

There's rage because it hurts.

Many of us put countless hours into shaping our universe. For others, Mass Effect was an escape into an ideal world. For these people, ME is so much more than a game. We care. And when it was all ripped away in a few short minutes, it's as though our world came crashing down around us. We hurt...and so we became angry. It's human.

I've had days to work through the anger, and instead, finally wrote a letter expressing how hurt I was, how Mass Effect had become like a home for me, how much I had invested into their tiny little work of fiction. I'm not sure if I'll send it...but I did post it elsewhere, and others have shared the sentiment.

Bioware employees are people, too. They might even be horrified that they hurt us so badly. But if we want to help them through that, we have to be understanding. We have to be patient. If you care, please write a letter. Please curb your anger and let your pain talk for you. Human empathy is a powerful device; especially when dealing with people who aren't your enemies.

I've said a phrase a few times across the internet, and I will say it again - for many of us, Mass Effect has become part of us. It's home. And by the homeworld we hope to see one day...

Keelah Se'lai.

Modifié par AlphaDormante, 10 mars 2012 - 08:22 .

[kramerfan86]

I dont think its unreasonable to suggest one is done with bioware. Dragon Age crashed and burned with their last game and Mass Effect 3 spit all over the series. I know I would be wary of investing time and emotion in a bioware series at this point simply because the trust is gone after what they did to mass effect. Sure its still an AMAZING game series, but they murdered it.

[Denethar]

No, I'm not going to apologize and I haven't gone too far. I've said that I love the game, but the ending sucks....and I'm not going to buy another Bioware game until it's fixed. That's not mindless rage, I've finished the game for 4 days now, my opinion hasn't changed one bit.

[kj0600]

I meant what I said, though I never threatened to 'never buy a Bioware game again'. (Hey I'm even one of those rare people that liked DA2!) I have nothing to apologize for.
I am however, deeply disappointed and I feel cheated for wasting so many hours of my life on choices that didn't matter. 

Modifié par kj0600, 10 mars 2012 - 08:31 .

[BaileysChick]

deathscythe517 wrote...

Agreed, at best, I'll play all that came before Mass Effect 3, at worst I will refuse to buy or play anything they sell. I've never done this before, because it feels like a dear friend betraying me, with Activision, it was just sense to not support their horrid business policies. But with Bioware, I never expected this, and that's probably why it hurts. You looked forward to a great finale, the developers telling you that you'd get six endings, six distinct endings based on how you handled things...and instead we get 3 with meaningless variations, no closure, plot holes, and more questions. TVTropes depresses me further because it seems like they're trying to sweep the problem under the rug.

Style over substance would indicate this was a 'style', it's not, it's an atrocity that had no right to be in a game - in a STORY - like this, the Deus Ex aesop felt forced as all hell and people defending it have little ground to stand on. I'm not even angry anymore, I just feel like I don't care about anything anymore, this was one of the greatest scifi universes I've ever seen...and it was destroyed in mere minutes.

Agree'd full heartedly , After this all faith in Bioware is gone, I'v cancelled my SWTOR account and wont buy another game from EA or Bioware till this matter is fixed, We just wanted a chance at a happy ending. We had no chance or choice. We wanted closure with the ending , Not a fricken bad mood when we finished the game.

[majormajormmajor]

AlphaDormante wrote...

Bioware employees are people, too. They might even be horrified that they hurt us so badly.

HA! HA! HA!

[Stanley Woo]

And we're done here.

End of line.