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[Sanguine]

am I going to get in trouble if I bump this again because I still cant seem to find the old links?

/hope not

[RubiconI7]

Not true. An extremely detailed version of the endings was leaked back in Novemeber. Shepard was meant to survive in more than just a few endings, and tech was meant to be kept in Synthesis/Control. There was also a variation of 'epilogue' where Shepard (if alive) would emerge from the Guardian's ruins, to be greated by their LI and Anderson. Shepard and their LI would hug while Anderson would summerise, casualities, technology, outcome, relays, the future, etc.

Why? Why cut this??

[mutermath]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

I believe the VS confrontation wasn't going to be centered around the Udina Coup. Pretty sure the coup had something to do with the Hanar homeworld in the leak.

Thessia was changed signifigantly in many ways. Kai Leng's lethality was toned down.

The endings (what segments were in the old leaks) seem basically unchanged.

Not true. An extremely detailed version of the endings was leaked back in Novemeber. Shepard was meant to survive in more than just a few endings, and tech was meant to be kept in Synthesis/Control. There was also a variation of 'epilogue' where Shepard (if alive) would emerge from the Guardian's ruins, to be greated by their LI and Anderson. Shepard and their LI would hug while Anderson would summerise, casualities, technology, outcome, relays, the future, etc.

So even the leaked script was better.
<_<

[Dynomite15]

If they kept the old ending people would be ****ing that they didn't change it. Guaranteed.

[Gowienczyk]

Dynomite15 wrote...

If they kept the old ending people would be ****ing that they didn't change it. Guaranteed.

But would there be polls emasse of 12-15k of such complaints?

[Malakar1]

I didn't complain about the ending and I don't plan to EVER. But the leaked ending really looks better than the one we got. I guess the community somehow shot himself in the foot. Thanks microsoft for screwing up again and leaking stuff.

[Aligalipe]

I don't think its community's fault. The leaked script was richer than the current story. There were more places to go, more dialogues etc. Probably Bioware changed the script to make the production process cheaper.

Modifié par Aligalipe, 11 mars 2012 - 01:41 .

[QuarianHIV]

NOTHING changed. BW fed us with lies.

[revo76]

or they leaked the script because they no longer need it, and we have this.

[Superninfreak]

The script had the game start with a witch trial against Shepard. This was cut out in the actual game.

Which sucks, I really wanted to see that scene :\\

[Chief Martini]

Skypezee wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

I believe the VS confrontation wasn't going to be centered around the Udina Coup. Pretty sure the coup had something to do with the Hanar homeworld in the leak.

Thessia was changed signifigantly in many ways. Kai Leng's lethality was toned down.

The endings (what segments were in the old leaks) seem basically unchanged.

Not true. An extremely detailed version of the endings was leaked back in Novemeber. Shepard was meant to survive in more than just a few endings, and tech was meant to be kept in Synthesis/Control. There was also a variation of 'epilogue' where Shepard (if alive) would emerge from the Guardian's ruins, to be greated by their LI and Anderson. Shepard and their LI would hug while Anderson would summerise, casualities, technology, outcome, relays, the future, etc.

WHAT.
That's the kind of ending I was HOPING that we would get anyways! D8 Shepard and their LI being together (if LI lives) with either Anderson or Hackett getting into contact with Shepard to get and receive a status report. Then it would just move on to how everyone will try to rebuild their societies and life goes on. Even if the end was bitter sweet due to heavy losses or mass relays being destroyed, at least that kind of ending would give us real closure.

Instead we got... this.

Even that other script leak about Kai Leng being even more menacing would have been awesome! A true adversary who would really screw Shepard over or force them to make a choice between friends/LI.

All of this. The leaked version appears to be so much more elaborate and better in general.

Even then, I still think Bioware should've taken more time and added more into the game.

[SweetJeeba]

Savber100 wrote...

nhcre8tv1 wrote...

Savber100 wrote...

So our b*tching got Bioware to change the script?

We really shot our own foot if that's true.

Wait... r u seereeus? That sucks.

Well in the leaks, the mass relays only blow up in the destroy ending and I honest;y don't recall the Normandy crash thingy in the leaks. 

The other endings requires Shepard's sacrifice but it still assured that the tech stayed. 

Wereally destroying the relays is the only wat to have a mass effect 4.  So much time will pass that no one thinks Shepard is more than a myth

[revo76]

Superninfreak wrote...

The script had the game start with a witch trial against Shepard. This was cut out in the actual game.

Which sucks, I really wanted to see that scene :

no worries, you'll see.

as DLC.


What they did was leak old writer's script and make fear among users, then they simply divided old script to pieces so they could sell it to us. Parts of the game.

Like i said before, Javid was the Catalyst in leaked script, not some little kid. After leak, Javid seperated from new script and was created as DLC. If you take him as companion throughout the game you'll see that his dialoges are not some sort of DLC piece. They all unique. Contrarty to Kasumi or Zaeed DLCs.

Trial also will come as DLC. Like Omega. 

Modifié par revo76, 11 mars 2012 - 02:08 .

[Aligalipe]

revo76 wrote...

Superninfreak wrote...

The script had the game start with a witch trial against Shepard. This was cut out in the actual game.

Which sucks, I really wanted to see that scene :

no worries, you'll see.

as DLC.


What they did was leak old writer's script and make fear among users, then they simply divided old script to pieces so they could sell it to us. Parts of the game.

Like i said before, Javid was the Catalyst in leaked script, not some little kid. After leak, Javid seperated from new script and was created as DLC. If you take him as companion throughout the game you'll see that his dialoges are not some sort of DLC piece. They all unique. Contrarty to Kasumi or Zaeed DLCs.

Trial also will come as DLC. Like Omega. 

You hope too much

[revo76]

Aligalipe wrote...

revo76 wrote...

Superninfreak wrote...

The script had the game start with a witch trial against Shepard. This was cut out in the actual game.

Which sucks, I really wanted to see that scene :

no worries, you'll see.

as DLC.


What they did was leak old writer's script and make fear among users, then they simply divided old script to pieces so they could sell it to us. Parts of the game.

Like i said before, Javid was the Catalyst in leaked script, not some little kid. After leak, Javid seperated from new script and was created as DLC. If you take him as companion throughout the game you'll see that his dialoges are not some sort of DLC piece. They all unique. Contrarty to Kasumi or Zaeed DLCs.

Trial also will come as DLC. Like Omega. 

You hope too much

Why ? We already have a proof, that they're using parts of the old script ?

''I dont need luck - I have ammo''

''I'm not hoping - I've got proof''

[Korhiann]

Dynomite15 wrote...

If they kept the old ending people would be ****ing that they didn't change it. Guaranteed.

Probably. Would it however be worse than the alternative?

[Dean_the_Young]

The biggest change, even visible in the pre-game marketing, was that Cerberus was actively working with the Reapers the entire time, rather than being the wild card doing its own thing..

Miranda's father, IIRC, was running Sanctuary and giving the Reapers a source of husks: the inner parts of sanctuary were less of research facility and more of a horrific processing facility, with groups of people stuck .in cages and lowered into pits of Dragon's Teeth. There was also supposed to be a super-elite form of husk that could teleport, but apparently it crashed the game too much and so they nixed it and made the Banshee harder.

Cerberus was also on the Quarian homeworld running the Reaper base, if you remember one of the earlier demos.


Thessia (or was it the AY monostary?) was supposed to be already under Reaper occupation, a hell-hole of horror as the civilian populace awaited its doom.

Somewhere, I don't remember where, we were supposed to go into one of those slaughter-house non-sentient Reapers.

[Total Biscuit]

rallyfan wrote...

I never did read the leak because I did not want to spoil myself, but it sounds like the complainers screwed us over.

As one of the 'complainers', I would like to point out that most of the ending is identical to what everyone is upset about now, and the only things we didn't know about were that the Relays exploded in all the endings, and the Normandy crash. If Bioware really did listen to us and our complaints, and changed things accordingly, then they went with the complete opposite of what most of us were saying, and deliberately made the game worse, apparently out of spite. They knew well in advance how unpopular these endings were likely going to be, and they didn't give a damn, so please don't blame us for trying to prevent this whole mess happening and Bioware not listening to reason or sense.

Also there were two leaked scripts, one a very early draft, and a later 90% complete one.

Javik and the Virmire standoff with VS and Liara were in the earliest script, with Javik's role going from being integral to the plot  to DLC friendly unimportance, and the Virmire 2.0 thing being dropped entirely by the near complete script.

Also I beliee we were origionally going to be able to persuade Kelly Chambers onto the Normandy, where she could be properly romanced, and would argue with Diana Allers.

[ruka_09]

overburning wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Not true. An extremely detailed version of the endings was leaked back in Novemeber. Shepard was meant to survive in more than just a few endings, and tech was meant to be kept in Synthesis/Control. There was also a variation of 'epilogue' where Shepard (if alive) would emerge from the Guardian's ruins, to be greated by their LI and Anderson. Shepard and their LI would hug while Anderson would summerise, casualities, technology, outcome, relays, the future, etc.

God this is just what I need, some real closure. 

I agree. That ending sounded so much better..

[Shinobu]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

NoUserNameHere wrote...

I believe the VS confrontation wasn't going to be centered around the Udina Coup. Pretty sure the coup had something to do with the Hanar homeworld in the leak.

Thessia was changed signifigantly in many ways. Kai Leng's lethality was toned down.

The endings (what segments were in the old leaks) seem basically unchanged.

Not true. An extremely detailed version of the endings was leaked back in Novemeber. Shepard was meant to survive in more than just a few endings, and tech was meant to be kept in Synthesis/Control. There was also a variation of 'epilogue' where Shepard (if alive) would emerge from the Guardian's ruins, to be greated by their LI and Anderson. Shepard and their LI would hug while Anderson would summerise, casualities, technology, outcome, relays, the future, etc.

My God, this is exactly what I want. Where did things go wrong?

[Kloborgg711]

Dynomite15 wrote...

If they kept the old ending people would be ****ing that they didn't change it. Guaranteed.

Yes, but I don't think for half a second it would garner as much opposition as this ending. I made it an absolute priority to avoid spoiling the game for myself, and regardless they changed a perfectly fitting ending to this abomination.

[SierraGHOSTN7]

Aligalipe wrote...

I don't think its community's fault. The leaked script was richer than the current story. There were more places to go, more dialogues etc. Probably Bioware changed the script to make the production process cheaper.

If I'll have to pay for all this in DLCs, I'll pay without any doubts...

[Templar Fox]

Not true. An extremely detailed version of the endings was leaked back in Novemeber. Shepard was meant to survive in more than just a few endings, and tech was meant to be kept in Synthesis/Control. There was also a variation of 'epilogue' where Shepard (if alive) would emerge from the Guardian's ruins, to be greated by their LI and Anderson. Shepard and their LI would hug while Anderson would summerise, casualities, technology, outcome, relays, the future, etc.

I'm... I'm speechless.

[realguile]

rallyfan wrote...

I never did read the leak because I did not want to spoil myself, but it sounds like the complainers screwed us over.

Indeed. That standoff sounds so damn sweet.

[wetnasty]

Astaiir wrote...

Aligalipe wrote...

I don't think its community's fault. The leaked script was richer than the current story. There were more places to go, more dialogues etc. Probably Bioware changed the script to make the production process cheaper.

If I'll have to pay for all this in DLCs, I'll pay without any doubts...

Agreed. I don't want a PR storm about it. I don't want Casey Hudson on BioWare pulse convincing me that what they did was all in their plans or that it wasn't all in their plans. Bioware, just: