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ROFL, well one Paragon choice bit me in the ass...((spoilers))


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JnEricsonx

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Yup...rewriting the Geth Heretics=biting you in the ass apparently, as Legion tells me it increased available geth converts for the Reapers.  And thats all I know, rofl.

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Reofeir

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For being a paragon, I went with the renegade action for that. Sure, I don't see it on screen...but I think I helped the quarians a tad bit. Less is good.

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SandTrout

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Saving the Rachni queen comes back to haunt you as well.

Also, if you let the Council die at the end of ME1, you can get Krogan, Salarian, Turian, and Asari fleets. The Salarian Councilor is grateful enough for you getting her the job and saving her from Kai Leng that you get the Salarian fleets regardless of curing the genophage.

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Dreogan

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Odd. I played Paragon as well, but was able to rewrite the Heretics and make peace between the Quarians/Geth.

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Adugan

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Rewriting them benefits you after you finish all Rannoch missions. Geth are free of Reaper influence and the rewritten Geth add a ton of war asset points to the Geth fleet.

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Lyrandori

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Happened to me to, so I decided to not allow Legion to upload the data, getting rid of the Geth completely in the process, good try though (well, fits that Shepard anyway, she has a Ruthless profile so don't step on her big toe and you'll be fine lol). I was somehow expecting some sort of a "bad" surprised though out of rewriting them, although I wasn't exactly expecting that to give more power directly for the Reapers cause, I thought that it'd perhaps just mean more Geth to get rid of for the Quarians but not as much of a mistake as it turns out to be so... yeah, sorry Legion.

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rma2110

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Yes, the Geth will be much stronger once you get them on your side. I just hope you left that reaper mission as the last missin on Rannok. I chose that missin before finishing the other two, and the result was heartbreaking.

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Phydeaux314

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Rewriting the Geth makes it harder to make peace, but nets you a larger reward if you succeed. If you rewrite the heretics, you need to not fail ANY other part of the geth/quarian peace effort or you won't be able to succeed.

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Harbinger of Hope

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I find it funny that my Shep is Ruthless and yet went pretty much full paragon. Maybe he was changed after Torfan. Anywho, ya, at first I was all "Well....s**t." But then after I freed them from the Reapers I was all "SCORE!".

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thavleifrim

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if you save the geth the war asset they give you is stronger if you re-wrote the heretics.

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Tazzmission

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Dreogan wrote...

Odd. I played Paragon as well, but was able to rewrite the Heretics and make peace between the Quarians/Geth.


hmmm i did everything but my options were grey


same with tim on the citadel

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Tom Lehrer

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What is the net gain if you rewrite?

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Adugan

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Tom Lehrer wrote...

What is the net gain if you rewrite?


I think you get 300% increase in the Geth fleet, but I am not sure. 150 to 450. I would have to check the game, but I dont want to.

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SandTrout wrote...

Saving the Rachni queen comes back to haunt you as well.

It doesn't, actually. If you kill the Rachni queen she gets replaced by a new one, except if you let the new one go she will kill off 100 points worth of Alliance technicians before withdrawing all the bonuses received from Rachni forces.

On the other hand if you saved the Rachni queen and then let her go a second time, she will be loyal and you won't lose any Alliance techs or the Rachni bonus.

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Phydeaux314 wrote...
Rewriting the Geth makes it harder to make peace, but nets you a larger reward if you succeed. If you rewrite the heretics, you need to not fail ANY other part of the geth/quarian peace effort or you won't be able to succeed.

Which are those other parts? I guess Tali not exiled, Legion not given to Cerberus and both loyal are a factor?

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mupp3tz

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SandTrout wrote...

Saving the Rachni queen comes back to haunt you as well.


...had NO effect whatsoever, except for a small dialogue about "Hey, didn't I save you?"  Then you can tell it's all generic.  The first time they mention the Rachni, Shepard even acts all surprised and goes "The rachni haven't been seen for xxx (some really big amount) of years!"  Kind of lame.

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Sajuro

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Rana Thanoptis, ended up killing five Asari generals due to indoctrination.

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Bachi1230

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only real repercussion was an email about rana thanoptis having been indoctrinated all those years ago and finally snapping and killing 5 asari military leaders with w suicide bomb

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DS_Abe

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SandTrout wrote...

Saving the Rachni queen comes back to haunt you as well.

Also, if you let the Council die at the end of ME1, you can get Krogan, Salarian, Turian, and Asari fleets. The Salarian Councilor is grateful enough for you getting her the job and saving her from Kai Leng that you get the Salarian fleets regardless of curing the genophage.


No, if you killed the Queen, the Reapers just find a surrogate.


Yes. They find something that isn't a queen but can breed brainless rachni troops.

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Sajuro

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DS_Abe wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

Saving the Rachni queen comes back to haunt you as well.

Also, if you let the Council die at the end of ME1, you can get Krogan, Salarian, Turian, and Asari fleets. The Salarian Councilor is grateful enough for you getting her the job and saving her from Kai Leng that you get the Salarian fleets regardless of curing the genophage.


No, if you killed the Queen, the Reapers just find a surrogate.


Yes. They find something that isn't a queen but can breed brainless rachni troops.

Actually, they make the surrogate if I'm not mistaken.

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Lyriq

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I believe that if you rewrite the Geth, the Geth add more war assets, but if you destroy them, the Quarians receive more war assets. Also, Paragon Shep: Still destroyed the Geth. I think Jack put it quite nicely (and I'm paraphrasing since I can't find the actual quote :P): "Don't brainwash me and make me smile, if I'm gonna die at least let me die myself." I thought that tied in with the whole free-will theme and whatnot

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Does anybody know what the point trade off is for saving the rachni queen a 2nd time, versus leaving her? Do they loyal rachni workers equal or surpass the point reduction to Grunts squad?

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KodiakAsh

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There's a bunch of negative effects of choosing Paragon choices. For example if you spare Rana (you see her in ME1 and ME2) then in ME3 you find out via an email she became indoctrinated and she murdered a bunch of high ranking Asari MIlitary Commanders...

...kinda funny over all.

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Adugan

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KodiakAsh wrote...

There's a bunch of negative effects of choosing Paragon choices. For example if you spare Rana (you see her in ME1 and ME2) then in ME3 you find out via an email she became indoctrinated and she murdered a bunch of high ranking Asari MIlitary Commanders...

...kinda funny over all.


That is the only one as far as I can tell. The others just make it harder to be paragon, but gives more rewards if you succeed.

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Raltar

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Rewriting the geth gives you a stronger geth force, but the quarian force is weakened due to the geth being stronger during the war between them.