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Ranicus56

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Loved the game. I'm very sad about the ending. I can't seem to start a new game. :(

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Ranicus56 wrote...

Loved the game. I'm very sad about the ending. I can't seem to start a new game. :(


hearing that alot and i kinda aggre but im gonna fin out about the ng+ rumor first
funny that they clamed it wuld have good replay value but the last 5 minutes screws that to hell

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Ranicus56

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luzburg wrote...

Ranicus56 wrote...

Loved the game. I'm very sad about the ending. I can't seem to start a new game. :(


hearing that alot and i kinda aggre but im gonna fin out about the ng+ rumor first
funny that they clamed it wuld have good replay value but the last 5 minutes screws that to hell


Yeah it dose.

I heard about the NG+ ending. I might have to push myself to see if its true or not.

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Ranicus56 wrote...

luzburg wrote...

Ranicus56 wrote...

Loved the game. I'm very sad about the ending. I can't seem to start a new game. :(


hearing that alot and i kinda aggre but im gonna fin out about the ng+ rumor first
funny that they clamed it wuld have good replay value but the last 5 minutes screws that to hell


Yeah it dose.

I heard about the NG+ ending. I might have to push myself to see if its true or not.


Not true, been confirmed.

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So true. Great post.

If not for nonsensical, quasi artsy-fartsy, bull crap endings, this game would have been a masterpiece. Just goes to show having a bad ending can completely soil a franchise.

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I think we all can agree that the series has been amazing. From the new discoveries, exploration, relentless pursuit of saren and uplifting ending of me1, To the all around technically improved me2 which combined big decisions, great story structure and a much anticipating for me3 ending. It's just a shame that me3 didn't live up to all the HYPE!

With all the bugs, running around to listen in for side quests, some other issues with continuity and an ending that is less than satisfying, it is still our baby...an ugly baby, but it's ours.

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It was a good game indeed. Before beaming up to the citadel I was already preparing myself to start a new game from my Liara LI save (instead of the Ash one I used). Now I just don't have the heart to do it. I mean, What is the point of playing everything and doing all side quests is they just DO NOT MATTER?

Besides, there were some major issues in the choices transfers from the previous game. In ME1 I chose Anderson as councilor. In ME2 I talked to him as councilor. In ME3 Udina became councilor without any sort of explanation. What the hell was that? Anderson could have resign in order to keep Shepard alive, that could have been a thousand explanations that I would buy, but to just throw that at our faces without a single hint was too much.

Bioware had stated that this would be an Epic Series, and they got it right in part. It will be forever remembered as the greatest failure or a trilogy in the gaming industry. I for once will never buy another BW product because I just do not trust bioware to deliver a quality game any longer. I have been a fan since the Baldur's gate games (first ones) and even stood up for them during the DA2 failure. But now after SW:TOR and this, I just can't take it any longer. I just feel betrayed.

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Disney ending: I want it!

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Sundance31us

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Well said OP.

We just need to remember that we're all here for the same reasons...

How we feel about the series and that free issue of Fornax that came with membership.

:innocent:

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BioWare isn't going to satisfy everyone. I had mixed feelings about the ending, and thought that the execution, if anything, is amazing. It did address the main theme of man vs. machine.

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I agree with the OP wholeheartedly and would like to add my voice to support this notion as well. I really hope Bioware will listen to us and seriously consider doing an alternative ending.

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+1 for the OP.

I along with the majority of people who have emotionally invested themselves into this trilogy have been heartbroken by the endings.
My brother and myself have been along for the ride for all 6 years or so, played both previous games, multiple finishes, and even have the Cerberus logo tattooed on our chest. (we are happily ex-Cerberus now)
Up until the ending of ME3 I was also getting ready to play through with my other LI, Tali, (went through with Ashley first) but, like so many, the re playability of ALL THREE of the mass effect games has been flushed down the drain as all my (Shepard's) hard work has simply been for naught.
I seriously hope BioWare listens to the vast majority of its fans and creates an alternate ending that is worthy of all the hard work we put into our characters and their relationships.

But as the OP stated the games itself right up to the last 15 minutes was absolutely brilliant and its the ending alone that stops it being my favorite game of all time.

Please make a new ending BioWare!

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HeavenStar wrote...

I agree with the OP wholeheartedly and would like to add my voice to support this notion as well. I really hope Bioware will listen to us and seriously consider doing an alternative ending.


Whats been done cannot be undone. They can't just rewrite the endings, and they won't.

They warned us ahead of time this would be the end of Shepard's story in the Mass Effect franchise.

I just didn't expect it to be the end of the galaxy as well.

I can sacrifice my Shepard for the galaxy, I have no issue with that. But the destruction of the mass relays that doesn't just end the story of Shepard, that ends the galaxy, for an untold amount of time.

Even the post credits endings pretty much hint at the fact that its been hundreds of years, if not thousands, since the events of our Shepard's time, and they still haven't reached the stars again.

They said it wouldn't be the end of the franchise, just of Shepard's story. But I can't see how the franchise continues on in a galaxy that reverts back to pre-Mass Effect technology where everyone is stuck, at best, like we are now, in isolated solar systems where at best the races might be able to reachieve intersteller travel at best, but intergalactic travel will more or less be off the table for thousands of years at best.

There is also the fact of the endings themselves being completely frustrating.

You've spent five years committed to destroying the Reapers, and by destroying them, you destroy EDI and the Geth too, both unique forms of life, one of which would be critical to allowing the Quarians to re-adapt to Rannoch successfully. At least the Quarians left on Rannoch which probably aren't that many given the bulk of the Migrant Fleet was in Sol at the time of the destruction of the relays.

Through synthesis or control, you betray your oath to destroy the Reapers entirely.

The Synthesis option as well is so far into the realm of "a wizard did it" that it pushes the envelope of science fiction well beyond its breaking point.

The problems with the endings of ME3 are largely that every ending is a death sentence. Not just for Shepard, but for everyone else. The galaxy as we knew it, ends in that choice.

I didn't expect sunshine and roses, I knew defeating the Reapers was going to cost us something, was more or less committed to the fact that my Shepard would die in the pursuit of what he swore to do.

I just did not suspect that the cost would be so high as to literally end the possibility of any true successor to the franchise, that isn't running in some weird pocket dimension previous to Shepard destroying the Reapers, to even be possible.

I've never been one to support retconning game lore. But the end of ME3, whichever you choose, ends Mass Effect as a franchise, entirely. Except for spin offs and side games that happen parallel to Shepard's timeline, theres literally no way the franchise can recover and move on from Shepard.

What are they going to call it? Lack of Mass Effect? The gripping saga of being stuck within the heliosphere of one star because you don't have the technology to get to any of the others? Thats hardly premise to build a science fiction franchise out of the dust of ME3 on. Its simply a reality simulator at that point. Cause we're already doing that right now in our own time.

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The fact that the game as a whole isn't being discussed here proves that people generally approve of it. General rule of thumb, people like to talk about problems. Bioware is well aware that the community appreciates the majority of the game and it's our job to alert them to the problems. Thus, the complaining about the ending.

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I whole-heartedly agree with OP.

And minus the ending, I would really like to thank BW for providing the greatest gaming experience I've ever had. It touched me on an emotional level that few movies, fewer books, and no games have ever accomplished. I will cherish this experience and strive to remember the game for the highs, not the lows.

Still, I desperately want an ending DLC. Regardless of what some people may say/mock about that, I want my Disney ending Damnit.

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The game was as stunning as either of its previous iterations. Perhaps even more so.

But everything past running for the Conduit just heads into stupid territory. Harbinger blows you up no matter what you do, even if you've dodged every incoming beam, its just a completely unavoidable outcome. Suddenly your screen goes white and by the time you get a visual again every things gone to hell the ride from there is all pretty much automatic pilot other than a few meaningless conversation choices and a pair of renegade interrupts that if you don't take, have no alternate response other than "Critical Mission Failure".

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Couldn't agree more really. This game is a masterpiece, definitely best game of all time. And Bioware would always still have my back. And if they really deliver an alternate ending DLC then it's amazing, if not? well that's gonna suck.

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SLPr0 wrote...

HeavenStar wrote...

I agree with the OP wholeheartedly and would like to add my voice to support this notion as well. I really hope Bioware will listen to us and seriously consider doing an alternative ending.


Whats been done cannot be undone. They can't just rewrite the endings, and they won't.

They warned us ahead of time this would be the end of Shepard's story in the Mass Effect franchise.

I just didn't expect it to be the end of the galaxy as well


Not so dramatic. It was just the end of the order that the Catalyst and the Reapers made. The energy released through the destruction of the mass relays was used to power the Crucible's projectile as it wove its way through the cosmos and altered the relationship between synthetics and organics, whatever the ending may be. This is the end of one era and the beginning of another, one that isn't based on relay tech. I thought the symbolism was strong enough in the ending to reflect that.

Speaking of which, I just hope the ending was better written than what it was. I looked at the leaked script after I finished the game and saw that the conversation with the Catalyst was going to be better written and explained, but BioWare severely trimmed it down. I hope they can correct this with a patch.

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I agree with you OP. Most of us think the rest of the game is awesome but those endings man~