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[Raxtoren]

If she could shapeshift into a dragon, and her daughter into bear,wolf or even a spider, why not?
She also seems to be an ally of the grey wardens, so could she have been perhaps the gryphon in the story along other shapeshifter allies?

[Herr Uhl]

You think she would sink that low? Party tricks for foolish humans?



And there were griffins, but they are now thought of as extinct. Keep in mind that dragons were also thought to be extinct.

[Raxtoren]

party tricks? im saying as a force to deal with the darkspawn with.

Turning yourself into a dragon make no sense.

[Herr Uhl]

She is not an ally of the grey wardens, she is an ally of herself.



She is an isolationist that hates the world, and the world hates her.

[Raxtoren]

she is an ally, in that sense it serves herself.

just as she helped you to survive so you can stop the blight.

for ex Japanese people were allied with germany in ww2, you think germany who were racist consdiered the japanese as a brother? no, but it helps their cause if asia is in chaos.

Just as Italy invading Africa did.

[Rugaru]

Just because she can be A dragon, how could she possibly be an entire species of griffins?

[Herr Uhl]

Yes, but this is the first time that the blight originates in her back yard. Otherwise she probably wouldn't care.



She never had a army of shape shifters either, one daughter at the time.



And she has an ulterior motive for helping you and sending Morrigan with you, it is not simply goodwill.

[KalosCast]

I'm not following the logic on how she could be an entire race of creatures and serve as mounts to the entire Grey Warden order.

[Raxtoren]

Couldar wrote...

Just because she can be A dragon, how could she possibly be an entire species of griffins?

Flemeth the only shapeshifter?
I assumed there must have been many more, just as Flemeth learned morrigan,(and morrigan can teach you) someone could/should have learned flemeth and otehrs.
I mean think about it, in DAO, you,morrigan and flemeth could have been 3 shapeshifters. so why not more in the DAO history? if its that easy to teach otehrs.

Modifié par Raxtoren, 27 novembre 2009 - 12:02 .

[Herr Uhl]

She never had an army of mages or an army of anything.

[Raxtoren]

Herr Uhl wrote...

She never had an army of mages or an army of anything.

whats an army?
In DAO(at ostagar) the mage army consist of 7 mages, when you control the mage army you got 12.
There was 7 blight dragons so to say, I dont assume the gryphons were 100's etc.

[Herr Uhl]

In the legends, there were 100:s of griffins.



The armies are not as high as an real army, since no computer could handle 300 fighters with the AI of the ones in dragon age and be feasible to market games to. And according to that estimate, there are like 40 people fighting in Ostagar. There are more people than you see.

[Rugaru]

lol griffins are a species as in bunches and bunches of them WILD, they were tamed and used by the wardens...think of horses. Shapeshifters need a living animal to study to be able to take a form, that is explained to you. Do you really think there were thousands of mages just playing around at being griffins just on the off chance that the wardens would decide to use them as mounts?

[Raxtoren]

Herr Uhl wrote...

In the legends, there were 100:s of griffins.

The armies are not as high as an real army, since no computer could handle 300 fighters with the AI of the ones in dragon age and be feasible to market games to. And according to that estimate, there are like 40 people fighting in Ostagar. There are more people than you see.

They said, 7 mages were at the battle, they didnt "show 7".

[Herr Uhl]

I saw seven, the one being harassed by Alastair, Uldred, Wynne and the 4 mages in the fade.



I retract that part of my statement then, but the griffins still were not shapeshifters, they were griffins.

[stardazzled]

I think that maybe Morrigan/Flemeth (afair, it was Morrigan) lied to you when saying she, Flemeth, became a giant... bird. Telling you that she became a dragon would have been very suspicious, at least to me.



In my opinion, she rescued you from the tower in dragon form (could have roasted all the darkspawn by the way) but didn't want you to know. After all, most of the dragons in the game - if not all - are evil. Knowing that she was able to shift to dragon form would have been a super-obvious hint.



Just my two cents.

[Thomas9321]

Flemeth had the potential to achieve a Griffin form if she had the chance to study one. But the Griffins were not shapeshifters, they were Griffins. The Grey Wardens tamed them. Also, in case you hadn't noticed, the Wardens recruit mages, they don't find them wild and ride them!

[Alex Savchovsky]

Raxtoren wrote...

If she could shapeshift into a dragon, and her daughter into bear,wolf or even a spider, why not?
She also seems to be an ally of the grey wardens, so could she have been perhaps the gryphon in the story along other shapeshifter allies?

IIRC, the tales told about Wardens riding gryphons, not just a single one. While it is possible that these were shapeshifted mages, I don't find it very likely. After all, Shapeshifting is clearly inefficient way of using magical abilities, except for the dragon form.

[Rugaru]

Thomas9321 wrote...

Flemeth had the potential to achieve a Griffin form if she had the chance to study one. But the Griffins were not shapeshifters, they were Griffins. The Grey Wardens tamed them. Also, in case you hadn't noticed, the Wardens recruit mages, they don't find them wild and ride them!

Don't know about that I rode Morrigan...

[Varenus Luckmann]

Yes. Of course Flemeth were the gryphons. All of them.

Clearly.