Throughout the game, Sheperd has terrible nightmares of the little boy we see on Earth. This same little boy:
1. Vanishes immediatly without a sound after Shepherd hears him in a duct. Anderson never see's him.
2. Appears in Sheperds dreams frequently.
3. Is the Starchild at the end of the game.
I, in an effort to force my mind to cope with the horror that was the ending to what was otherwise the best game of the series and the best Bioware game to date (aside a few probs with bugs and the quest tracker being bullocks seriously though 8-9/10 before endings) submit the theory that the ending of the game does NOT actually happen, and it is -all a dream-. Or, it is a test by the Starchild to determine if organics really are ready to coexist with Synthetics by seeing what choice he makes.
The Dallas Ending: "It was all a Dream"
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:18
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The little boy was obviously supposed to be part of Shep's subconscious. I thought that was obvious even in the demo. I thought once Shep got hit by the laser the entire rest of the ending felt dream-like. I honestly thought Shep WAS hallucinating at first, but then she never woke up..... =[
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:19
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The moment you hear Clint Mansell music, you know you're going into your subconscious. This is true both in and out of ME3.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:22
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Makatak wrote...
The moment you hear Clint Mansell music, you know you're going into your subconscious. This is true both in and out of ME3.
Thank God, half my life now makes sense...
I'm going with the little kid isn't real because none of the soldiers even give notice to a small child try to run away, you would think they would make that a priority to get the kid to safety but no one even looks at him except shepard.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:23
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The endings could very well be a test from the Starchild to an unexpected Mass Effect 4.
Who knows? This would give me hope.
Who knows? This would give me hope.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:23
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Was almost half expecting for the game to end with the camera panning out from Shepard sleeping on the Normandy in the med bay and Anderson asking Ash; "What the hell happened down there on Eden Prime?"
Prothean Beacons, really screw with your head.
Prothean Beacons, really screw with your head.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:25
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Darkieus wrote...
The endings could very well be a test from the Starchild to an unexpected Mass Effect 4.
Who knows? This would give me hope.
More like a DLC than another full blown game.
But yeah. I'm in agreement with this theory, at this point it's the only one that makes sense. It makes sense completely because the ending made no sense, just like most dreams.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:29
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If this is really the end of ME3 permanently then I am still holding out hope for a "ME4" that continues on the story of shepard to the conflicts of the aftermath in the form of an expansion pack.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:29
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You know, as much as I hate "all just a dream" endings, at this point, if ME3 ended with Shepard waking up aboard the Normandy SR-1, with Joker announcing "Approaching Eden Prime", it would still be a better ending than the one we got.
Edit: Beaten to it! Heh!
Edit: Beaten to it! Heh!
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:32
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It's been confirmed that this game was to be the end of Shepherds story.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:35
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Ok I will just spoil it. The kid is actually the Reapers and the indoctrination from them he received, since he was close to so many of them. The Citadel created the Reapers, and the Reapers indoctrinated Shepard just a little bit. That is why you see the kid on the Citadel.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:43
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Adugan wrote...
Ok I will just spoil it. The kid is actually the Reapers and the indoctrination from them he received, since he was close to so many of them. The Citadel created the Reapers, and the Reapers indoctrinated Shepard just a little bit. That is why you see the kid on the Citadel.
How's that a spoiler? That''s more like your interpretation...
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:46
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Adugan wrote...
Ok I will just spoil it. The kid is actually the Reapers and the indoctrination from them he received, since he was close to so many of them. The Citadel created the Reapers, and the Reapers indoctrinated Shepard just a little bit. That is why you see the kid on the Citadel.
It's terrible though. I mean, that Shepard ends up indoctrinated after all, it breaks my heart. But you know, that ending CAN happen, the problem is that we don't have enough endings, we need a few more, and perhaps some epilogue after the events to give us more details on who becomes what, and how the organic species survive and/or rebuild later on, if anything. As of now we're left completely in the dark and always have to analyze things ourselves to come up with some pseudo explanations. I don't like stories that don't explain the main stuff in enough details, leaving some mysteries here and there, sure... but why can't we just not learn a bit more of what happens after any of the available endings, it's beyond me.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 10:49
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Mr.Snithums wrote...
Was almost half expecting for the game to end with the camera panning out from Shepard sleeping on the Normandy in the med bay and Anderson asking Ash; "What the hell happened down there on Eden Prime?"
Prothean Beacons, really screw with your head.
I like that.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:29
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Lugaidster wrote...
Adugan wrote...
Ok I will just spoil it. The kid is actually the Reapers and the indoctrination from them he received, since he was close to so many of them. The Citadel created the Reapers, and the Reapers indoctrinated Shepard just a little bit. That is why you see the kid on the Citadel.
How's that a spoiler? That''s more like your interpretation...
Because the kid says he IS the citadel, and he created the reapers to control the spread of organic life. Either it is indoctrination or he was hallucinating, or both.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:41
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On the other hand, he was obviously supposed to be the girl in red coat from Schindler's List. In my understanding, for Shepard, he represents the innocents dying at the Reaper's hand.Fidget6 wrote...
The little boy was obviously supposed to be part of Shep's subconscious. I thought that was obvious even in the demo. I thought once Shep got hit by the laser the entire rest of the ending felt dream-like. I honestly thought Shep WAS hallucinating at first, but then she never woke up..... =[
As for the theroy of being a dream... I think, it does actually happen. I'm in for the most simple solution, an old man telling his grandchild one of the legends that wanders around the galaxy.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 11:45
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Adugan wrote...
Lugaidster wrote...
Adugan wrote...
Ok I will just spoil it. The kid is actually the Reapers and the indoctrination from them he received, since he was close to so many of them. The Citadel created the Reapers, and the Reapers indoctrinated Shepard just a little bit. That is why you see the kid on the Citadel.
How's that a spoiler? That''s more like your interpretation...
Because the kid says he IS the citadel, and he created the reapers to control the spread of organic life. Either it is indoctrination or he was hallucinating, or both.
I don't know if it's ironic or sad that every single person I've talked who who tries to justify the ending, does so for different reasonings. They each have their own 'meaning', how they understood things, and they tried to explain them to me like I just wasn't getting it. And for a while, I believed them. I thought maybe I really didn't get it, and I gave it another playthrough just for the lulz, as the game is amazing other than the endings anyhow.
But, no. I get it entirely, and the only thing there is to GET is the fact that a Deus Ex Machina was pulled on us. There is not enough given information for you to prove he is anything much less an annoyance on screen, and the only subtle hint that Shep was indocrinated was the black screen during the confrontation with TIM, which may also have just been the fact that.. There were Reapers everywhere. It hasn't been confirmed by Word of God, so I don't believe it, nor should anyone else (concerning Shep being indocrinated).
As for theories with the kid, those are all people CAN spew. Theories. None of this brought closure, but mere questions.
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Posté 10 mars 2012 - 01:22
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Darkieus wrote...
The endings could very well be a test from the Starchild to an unexpected Mass Effect 4.
Who knows? This would give me hope.
I wish this were true, but ufortunately it cant be.
There is no rational business sense to alienate and spit on your loyal fanbase to pave way for a more exciting sequel.
How can fans go back to a company that drives them away in the first place?
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Posté 11 mars 2012 - 01:48
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Ugh, I want to play ME3 again. The gameplay is fantastic and everything leading up to the endings is great.
But the endings themselves just make me ask myself "Why" if everything I do doesn't matter.
But the endings themselves just make me ask myself "Why" if everything I do doesn't matter.
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Posté 14 mars 2012 - 06:34
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Ok, I agreed with a lot of you about the ending to an extent. The ending did lack some detail but if you truly think about the ending after the theory I below, it has a very deep meaning.
My theory is that as soon as you are hit with the laser beam by the reaper, you are knocked out and enter a dream.But not just any dream, during this time Shepard is in the process of being indoctrinated. There are many reasons for this and I here are some of them:
1. when you arrive on the citadel, both Shepard and Anderson, find the area unrecognizable
2. somehow anderson is teleported to a different location on the citadel but the area is the exactly the same as the area Shepard is in, Anderson somehow reaches the control terminal before Shepard, and also when yo arrive at the room with the terminal, the path you took is the only way to it, meaning that Anderson couldn't of taken a different route.
3. TIM not only shows up from out of nowhere but somehow can control Shepard and Anderson.
4. When you are transported to the catalyst, Shepard is out in the middle of space, WITH NO OXYGEN.
5. Shepard just goes along with everything that the catalyst says and that the reapers should be spared (but truly he wouldn't.)
Also, after the reaching catalyst, this is when Shepard is put to the test, whether he is to be consumed by his indoctrination or destroy the reapers for good. The choices given to you try to fool you, controlling the reapers only allows you to become indoctrinated yourself just like sovereign and TIM. The synthesis option doesn't really combine reapers and organics, what it does is it allows the reapers to combine there technology with organics which is the same thing as indoctrination. The last option is the correct one, to destroy the reapers. this will free Shepard from indoctrination because it means that Shepard won't give in to indoctrination. The secret ending the game proves this theory because Shepard wakes up only if you destroy the reapers.
Also, I believe that the reapers were never destroyed, because if the entire ending of the game was all a test and Shepard wakes up in the location where he was hit with the reapers laser beam that means that the reapers are still a threat, leading to ALOT of DLC.
Finally, the ending part of the game where it appears that Joker dies in the mass effect blast but appears that he survives and lands on a nice foreign planet along with the two squad mates you brought with you during the last mission, well, you should have just stuck with your first assumption that Joker died and wasn't saved because that is what happened. Joker was killed in the blast and your squad mates died from the reaper laser beam that nearly killed Shepard. This nice peaceful and sunny planet that they land on is just a representation of the three moving on to a better place and are finally at peace now that they are dead.
If you want more proof go to this link: www.youtube.com/watch
My theory is that as soon as you are hit with the laser beam by the reaper, you are knocked out and enter a dream.But not just any dream, during this time Shepard is in the process of being indoctrinated. There are many reasons for this and I here are some of them:
1. when you arrive on the citadel, both Shepard and Anderson, find the area unrecognizable
2. somehow anderson is teleported to a different location on the citadel but the area is the exactly the same as the area Shepard is in, Anderson somehow reaches the control terminal before Shepard, and also when yo arrive at the room with the terminal, the path you took is the only way to it, meaning that Anderson couldn't of taken a different route.
3. TIM not only shows up from out of nowhere but somehow can control Shepard and Anderson.
4. When you are transported to the catalyst, Shepard is out in the middle of space, WITH NO OXYGEN.
5. Shepard just goes along with everything that the catalyst says and that the reapers should be spared (but truly he wouldn't.)
Also, after the reaching catalyst, this is when Shepard is put to the test, whether he is to be consumed by his indoctrination or destroy the reapers for good. The choices given to you try to fool you, controlling the reapers only allows you to become indoctrinated yourself just like sovereign and TIM. The synthesis option doesn't really combine reapers and organics, what it does is it allows the reapers to combine there technology with organics which is the same thing as indoctrination. The last option is the correct one, to destroy the reapers. this will free Shepard from indoctrination because it means that Shepard won't give in to indoctrination. The secret ending the game proves this theory because Shepard wakes up only if you destroy the reapers.
Also, I believe that the reapers were never destroyed, because if the entire ending of the game was all a test and Shepard wakes up in the location where he was hit with the reapers laser beam that means that the reapers are still a threat, leading to ALOT of DLC.
Finally, the ending part of the game where it appears that Joker dies in the mass effect blast but appears that he survives and lands on a nice foreign planet along with the two squad mates you brought with you during the last mission, well, you should have just stuck with your first assumption that Joker died and wasn't saved because that is what happened. Joker was killed in the blast and your squad mates died from the reaper laser beam that nearly killed Shepard. This nice peaceful and sunny planet that they land on is just a representation of the three moving on to a better place and are finally at peace now that they are dead.
If you want more proof go to this link: www.youtube.com/watch
Modifié par xXCaboose26Xx, 14 mars 2012 - 06:37 .
