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[Biotic Sage]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

@Biotic: I'll admire you for sticking with your balls, but please, stop talking down to people.

I'm sorry you don't like hearing a contrary opinion, but expressing one isn't "talking down."

I lol'ed at "sticking with your balls."  You mean my balls for sticking to my guns I hope.    Everyone's typing fast right now I can tell.

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 10 mars 2012 - 11:29 .

[Haventh]

I absolutely loved the ending my Shepard got, even though he died. Next playthrough I will try to see if I can get a different ending. Overall I think Bioware did a great job on the story and the plot, while it was predictable, to me it was very emotional and the ending was the kind I prefer instead of happy fairytale hollywood endings.

[NoUserNameHere]

Sweawm wrote...

Got killed by Harbinger in my play through and didn't survive in the end...

That's arguably the best ending. Together in death.

[LilyasAvalon]

Biotic Sage wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

@Biotic: I'll admire you for sticking with your balls, but please, stop talking down to people.

I'm sorry you don't like hearing a contrary opinion, but expressing one isn't "talking down."

You've made your point, you've expressed how you feel, there's no need to poke and prod for a fight is all I'm saying.

And guns, balls, what does it matter? All the same to me.

Modifié par LilyasAvalon, 10 mars 2012 - 11:30 .

[Biotic Sage]

LilyasAvalon wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

LilyasAvalon wrote...

@Biotic: I'll admire you for sticking with your balls, but please, stop talking down to people.

I'm sorry you don't like hearing a contrary opinion, but expressing one isn't "talking down."

You've made your point, you've expressed how you feel, there's no need to poke and prod for that obvious fight you're looking for.

I'm really not looking for a fight (see my edited post above trying to lighten the mood).  People are repeatedly expressing their hate for the endings and I am repeatedly defending them.  This is so that Bioware isn't only hearing the people who disliked it, the people that did like it have a voice as well.  I'm sure that you have expressed your view many times in many threads, but you are continuing to express it.  I am not telling you to stop...

Modifié par Biotic Sage, 10 mars 2012 - 11:31 .

[Computron2000]

Templar Fox wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

DrNegative wrote...

Told her I love her....

Told her I always wanted to be with her....

Fought for her homeworld so I could grow old with her....


But I was forced to commit suicide which my choice of 3 different flavors, while she roams a jungle at who knows where.

Did I get trolled?

Hm.  "Trolling" is unexpected tomfoolery meant to provoke anger or an emotional response.  What Bioware did was follow through with the established story.  Shepard is willing to persevere and make the ultimate sacrifice, he's made that clear time and time again.  He and his squad have repeated time and time again that they don't expect to survive.  The story hammered home again and again the fact that the stakes are beyond comprehension: we stand on the brink of extinction, all intelligent life in the galaxy.  If you somehow came away with the expectation of a martyr/hero such as Shepard being able to stop the Reapers and being able to "grow old" and have children, I think you trolled yourself.  Just my opinion, but all of the evidence was contrary to this expectation.

You realize you're in the clear minority when it comes to that view, yes?  The popular poll thats going around has over 7000 people that generally agree these endings are balls.

You're wrong. Not everyone who agree the ending is stupid wants a disney ending. I'm one of those who dislike the ending because its stupid for something that came out from nowhere (other than one Protean line that talked about a theory that something might be behind the Reapers) to give you 3 choices making everything you learnt irrelevant and that there is no reason for Joker to be jumping and caught in the backwash when he is at Earth in the final battle.

I am 100% fine with Shepard dying.

[Templar Fox]

Computron2000 wrote...

Templar Fox wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

DrNegative wrote...

Told her I love her....

Told her I always wanted to be with her....

Fought for her homeworld so I could grow old with her....


But I was forced to commit suicide which my choice of 3 different flavors, while she roams a jungle at who knows where.

Did I get trolled?

Hm.  "Trolling" is unexpected tomfoolery meant to provoke anger or an emotional response.  What Bioware did was follow through with the established story.  Shepard is willing to persevere and make the ultimate sacrifice, he's made that clear time and time again.  He and his squad have repeated time and time again that they don't expect to survive.  The story hammered home again and again the fact that the stakes are beyond comprehension: we stand on the brink of extinction, all intelligent life in the galaxy.  If you somehow came away with the expectation of a martyr/hero such as Shepard being able to stop the Reapers and being able to "grow old" and have children, I think you trolled yourself.  Just my opinion, but all of the evidence was contrary to this expectation.

You realize you're in the clear minority when it comes to that view, yes?  The popular poll thats going around has over 7000 people that generally agree these endings are balls.

You're wrong. Not everyone who agree the ending is stupid wants a disney ending. I'm one of those who dislike the ending because its stupid for something that came out from nowhere (other than one Protean line that talked about a theory that something might be behind the Reapers) to give you 3 choices making everything you learnt irrelevant and that there is no reason for Joker to be jumping and caught in the backwash when he is at Earth in the final battle.

I am 100% fine with Shepard dying.

I never implied that everyone who dislikes the endings wants a disney ending.  You really need to learn reading comprehension.   I agree with you on the poorly written plotholes though.

[Computron2000]

Templar Fox wrote...

Computron2000 wrote...

Templar Fox wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

DrNegative wrote...

Told her I love her....

Told her I always wanted to be with her....

Fought for her homeworld so I could grow old with her....


But I was forced to commit suicide which my choice of 3 different flavors, while she roams a jungle at who knows where.

Did I get trolled?

Hm.  "Trolling" is unexpected tomfoolery meant to provoke anger or an emotional response.  What Bioware did was follow through with the established story.  Shepard is willing to persevere and make the ultimate sacrifice, he's made that clear time and time again.  He and his squad have repeated time and time again that they don't expect to survive.  The story hammered home again and again the fact that the stakes are beyond comprehension: we stand on the brink of extinction, all intelligent life in the galaxy.  If you somehow came away with the expectation of a martyr/hero such as Shepard being able to stop the Reapers and being able to "grow old" and have children, I think you trolled yourself.  Just my opinion, but all of the evidence was contrary to this expectation.

You realize you're in the clear minority when it comes to that view, yes?  The popular poll thats going around has over 7000 people that generally agree these endings are balls.

You're wrong. Not everyone who agree the ending is stupid wants a disney ending. I'm one of those who dislike the ending because its stupid for something that came out from nowhere (other than one Protean line that talked about a theory that something might be behind the Reapers) to give you 3 choices making everything you learnt irrelevant and that there is no reason for Joker to be jumping and caught in the backwash when he is at Earth in the final battle.

I am 100% fine with Shepard dying.

I never implied that everyone who dislikes the endings wants a disney ending.  You really need to learn reading comprehension.   I agree with you on the poorly written plotholes though.

Is english your second language?

biotic sage talked about shepard dying being already expected and yes the burn with the kid scene already said that out loud. Then you said his view is in the minority, in which case it means you think Shepard dying is the reason for the unhappiness of the majority about the ending.

I pointed that out and you say its a comprehension problem. I do not need to say more other than that you should read what a person writes before replying.

[DrNegative]

Biotic Sage wrote...

DrNegative wrote...

Told her I love her....

Told her I always wanted to be with her....

Fought for her homeworld so I could grow old with her....


But I was forced to commit suicide which my choice of 3 different flavors, while she roams a jungle at who knows where.

Did I get trolled?

If you somehow came away with the expectation of a martyr/hero such as Shepard being able to stop the Reapers and being able to "grow old" and have children, I think you trolled yourself.  Just my opinion, but all of the evidence was contrary to this expectation.

Maybe so, but there were many instances of Sheperd reassuring the crew and his romance partner that they were gonna make it (well you have the option of telling them so), even during the Earth battle. Aside from the plotholes, why give the option to tell them that, or to make promises to your romance which you can't keep? I even told the doctor to keep her bottle of Brandy stowed away until we defeat them, which we'll never have now, and I got Paragon points for it.. So not all of the evidence "was contrary to this expectation". "Evidence" in ME2 would also suggest I would have died during the Suicide Mission,
but I didn't.....

Maybe it was Bioware's intentions, to allow me to make promises I can't keep. Repeat playthroughs of the series are now ruined in a way, Now I know I'm lying to my crew, now I know I can never be with her.

I agree to disagree Biotic Sage.

Modifié par DrNegative, 10 mars 2012 - 09:55 .

[12D3]

Biotic Sage wrote...

DrNegative wrote...

Told her I love her....

Told her I always wanted to be with her....

Fought for her homeworld so I could grow old with her....


But I was forced to commit suicide which my choice of 3 different flavors, while she roams a jungle at who knows where.

Did I get trolled?

Hm.  "Trolling" is unexpected tomfoolery meant to provoke anger or an emotional response.  What Bioware did was follow through with the established story.  Shepard is willing to persevere and make the ultimate sacrifice, he's made that clear time and time again.  He and his squad have repeated time and time again that they don't expect to survive.  The story hammered home again and again the fact that the stakes are beyond comprehension: we stand on the brink of extinction, all intelligent life in the galaxy.  If you somehow came away with the expectation of a martyr/hero such as Shepard being able to stop the Reapers and being able to "grow old" and have children, I think you trolled yourself.  Just my opinion, but all of the evidence was contrary to this expectation.

An entire trilogy of games based solely on impactful decisions & dynamic storytelling. Who went into this game expecting 1 ending, yes ONE. ME2 ending as an example, we had majority control over everything that transpired in it. 

ME3 endings are complete contradiction to the soul of this series, we have no control how our game ends, and it comes to us with no closure at that. Replaying the game is absolutely mute with the way things are now, and trying to be a hipster on forums just to be different doesn't change that. The situation in the game is indeed dire, but Shepard is not a martyr, he's what we make him, and we are stripped of our choices for  him/her in the last 10mins of the game.

Bioware is gonna have to make a statement sometime soon about all of this, because the ending really did troll, and it trolled hard. Someone should be seriously fired and shunned in the developer community for it.


PS Please don't respond to this trying to defend the endings, cuz the 10 out of 3.5 million people that agree with you probably won't even read it anyway.

[Gruzmog]

Biotic Sage wrote...

I'm really not looking for a fight (see my edited post above trying to lighten the mood).  People are repeatedly expressing their hate for the endings and I am repeatedly defending them.  This is so that Bioware isn't only hearing the people who disliked it, the people that did like it have a voice as well.  I'm sure that you have expressed your view many times in many threads, but you are continuing to express it.  I am not telling you to stop...

While I agree with you that shepard not coming out alive of this one was to be expected and should not be changed on that part, I still dislike them very much. I would go so far as to say I hate em with a passion. It really destroyed the fun I had with the game untill then.

This is not about ponys, living happily ever after etc. but is it too much to ask for an ending to make sense?

With that I mean an ending without:
- teleportation of squad members to the normandy, they should either have died or made it to the citadel
- The Normandy suddenly deserting from the fleet for no appearent reason
- The space magic option of synthesis should not exist at all
- I deserve a chance to try and talk down this godling

As things stand the ending would have been better if the game just faded to black after the Anderson scene

I would like to see an epilogue too, but if they want to keep us wondering thats fine I gess. I don't need a good ending, I do want a proper ending.

[Gruzmog]

PS Please don't respond to this trying to defend the endings, cuz the 10 out of 3.5 million people that agree with you probably won't even read it anyway.

Please don't post bull**** statistics like this. It makes everything you said prior seem moot and makes people disliking the ending look bad. We don't want that