13 réponses à ce sujet

[Rocktel]

If you take EDI with you on the final mission and choose to destroy the Reapers, she'll still appear on the Normandy with Joker at the end. Shepard himself can survive if you have high enoug EMS, despite the Catalyst pointing out that he is part synthetic. Nowhere in the cinematics does it show the Geth being destroyed.

I think we need to examine what the Catalyst says. He says Shepard "could" destroy all synthetic life if he wanted, including the Geth. He never said that by destroying the Reapers all synthetic life would be destroyed. In fact if we examine the scene logically, Shepard shoots up the Catalysts systems, which causes it to explode and the Reapers to deactivate, as the Crucible destroys the Citadel and Mass Relays. None of this however provides a method for destroying the Geth.

Additionally, when the Catalyst says "including the Geth" it seems largely seperate from the rest of his statement. My guess is this was for if you chose to fight the Geth rather than gain their support. It's hardly impossible, after all Matriarch Aethyta says you're romancing Liara whether you are or not, with no opportunity to correct her.

Modifié par Rocktel, 10 mars 2012 - 10:30 .

[Auresta]

I am hopeful for this ambiguity but then again, I am disappointed in this ambiguity.

The geth became self-conscious through Reaper technology. EDI was made partly from Reaper technology. Would it be safe to say that targeting the Reapers would target them as well?

[KingNothing125]

Rocktel wrote...

If you take EDI with you on the final mission and choose to destroy the Reapers, she'll still appear on the Normandy with Joker at the end.

That's a continuity error, not evidence that she and the Geth survive.

[Rocktel]

KingNothing125 wrote...

Rocktel wrote...

If you take EDI with you on the final mission and choose to destroy the Reapers, she'll still appear on the Normandy with Joker at the end.

That's a continuity error, not evidence that she and the Geth survive.

You can interpret it either way, but the fact remains that Shepard can survive despite being reliant on synthetics and classified as synthetic life by the Catalyst.

Auresta wrote...

I am hopeful for this ambiguity but then again, I am disappointed in this ambiguity.

The
geth became self-conscious through Reaper technology. EDI was made
partly from Reaper technology. Would it be safe to say that targeting
the Reapers would target them as well?

The Geth are free from Reaper control if you gained their support. EDI was never under it. Destroying the Catalyst is what seems to lead to deactivating the Reapers, and like I said there's no reason to think it would effect anything that isn't under the Catalyst's control.

Modifié par Rocktel, 10 mars 2012 - 10:43 .

[Auresta]

Rocktel wrote...

KingNothing125 wrote...

Rocktel wrote...

If you take EDI with you on the final mission and choose to destroy the Reapers, she'll still appear on the Normandy with Joker at the end.

That's a continuity error, not evidence that she and the Geth survive.

You can interpret it either way, but the fact remains that Shepard can survive despite being reliant on synthetics and classified as synthetic life by the Catalyst.

Auresta wrote...

I am hopeful for this ambiguity but then again, I am disappointed in this ambiguity.

The
geth became self-conscious through Reaper technology. EDI was made
partly from Reaper technology. Would it be safe to say that targeting
the Reapers would target them as well?

The Geth are free from Reaper control if you gained their support. EDI was never under it. Destroying the Catalyst is what seems to lead to deactivating the Reapers, and like I said there's no reason to think it would effect anything that isn't under the Catalyst's control.

They are free, yes, but they became sentient through Reaper technology. So there is "reaperness" in them. It would be safe to assume that destroying the Reapers would destroy whatever else was Reaper-like. And I'm not even sure you ever destroy the Catalyst?

[askanec]

I am inclined to believe that your scene with EDI appearing on the Normandy after you choose to kill off all synthetic is a game-bug. Many people have said that squadmates they brought with them in the final push mysteriously appeared on the Normandy in the ending movie.

Shepard is partly synthetic, but he is still an organic lifeform.

[deathscythe517]

I'm going to be honest, I can only really really hope you're right, because otherwise, I'm just going to pick Destroy because I like red explosions. Seriously, that's my only reason for it, I like seeing red bathe everything...-sigh-

[Legendaryred]

Unless the catalyst is a huge EMP across the galaxy even in the ME universe i find it highly unlikely it would target all synthetics.

[TryckSh0t]

I would like to direct your attention to this thread:

http://social.biowar...5/index/9727423

There are a few others like it as well, and I honestly feel like this is the best explanation for what happened. The ending...well, isn't really the end. Almost guaranteed DLC sales if they throw out the "Hey, that's not the real ending. If you want to finish the game, give us another $10." And..as much as I'd hate them for it...I'll still buy it.

[Rocktel]

Auresta wrote...

They are free, yes, but they became sentient through Reaper technology. So there is "reaperness" in them. It would be safe to assume that destroying the Reapers would destroy whatever else was Reaper-like. And I'm not even sure you ever destroy the Catalyst?

I don't think you just destroy "Reaperness" in general. The Catalyst says quite clearly that it controls the Reapers, so if you destroy it then you'd cause the Reapers to stop functioning. As for my reasoning that we destroyed the Catalyst, you destroy part of the Citadel to start things off and later the whole Citadel. It said from the beginning that the Citadel was part of it.

[askanec]

It's clearly shown that the Catalyst has the ability to affect everyone, whether they are linked to the Reapers in some way or not. In the synthesis ending, everyone had their DNA changed, Joker, EDI, even the plantlife.

As to how the Catalyst is able to do that, well, it just can.

[Rocktel]

You can argue that the Catalyst can do that "just because." However I sincerely doubt blowing up part of it would be the trigger to do that. And like I said, it included Shepard among the synthetics. I think its ambiguous at least whether you destroyed all synthetic life or just the Reapers.

[zuckas]

TryckSh0t wrote...

I would like to direct your attention to this thread:

http://social.biowar...5/index/9727423

There are a few others like it as well, and I honestly feel like this is the best explanation for what happened. The ending...well, isn't really the end. Almost guaranteed DLC sales if they throw out the "Hey, that's not the real ending. If you want to finish the game, give us another $10." And..as much as I'd hate them for it...I'll still buy it.

Best guess is all DLC will be pre-ending content like the other games and that they'll make an ME4 to try and milk it some more, maybe even use the tag line "For the real ending!" in the ad campaigns....

[Rocktel]

I doubt there will be any post ending DLC since there's not much for Shepard to do and DLC without gameplay, however wanted, is unlikely.