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[KoiWeiss]

 Everything I've seen so far of the other romances has all the fans gushing with emotion.

And then I come to find that the same fans despise the endings just as much as I do.

So how hard did the endings crush your headcanon?

For my hetero couple of Shep and Jack I had always pictured them on some nice little garden world, raising a baby girl Jack's hair had grown back out to a long and waving mane, completely covering the tattoos on her skull. They had been happy, the lonely girl from the lab and the retired war veteran that had taught her how to trust people again, and their daughter was the product of that.

AS FOR MY S/S ROMANCE?

Kaidan and Shep were supposed to return to Earth and help rebuild. When everything was said and done they were supposed to be married in the orchard owned by Kaidan's family and honeymoon on Kahje, enjoying the warm wet climate for a time before adopting a child. 

Hopes. Dashed.

[HopHazzard]

Not much actually. I always figured Shepard would end the war with a heroic sacrifice. And he did. I just would've liked an epilogue card or two.

[Templar Fox]

Big Tali fan here - you must imagine my disappointment. They make a big deal out of building her a home on Rannoch, and you'll never get to see that. Neither will she.

[Militarized]

The sacrafice rings hollow to me, taking illogical choices from the enemy... I just imagine everything past being hit by Harbingers beam as a dream, a really horrible dream that an ending patch/dlc will fix and base the real ending off of what you did.

Koi, were you also as upset as a lot us other Jack fans for the lack of treatment Jack got? One good scene, then you finish it off with everyone getting the same scene in the citadel and never see her again?

I like to imagine her pretty much as she is in ME3, with Shep and her finding peace in each other and helping to get Humanity back on it's feet with Jack training Biotics and Shepard leading the relief effort as a General/Admiral now that he can put his gun to rest.

Later down the line I see little rocker children.

[Arlionis]

Militarized wrote...

The sacrafice rings hollow to me, taking illogical choices from the enemy... I just imagine everything past being hit by Harbingers beam as a dream, a really horrible dream that an ending patch/dlc will fix and base the real ending off of what you did.  

That would actually be awesome. Badly injured Shepard awakes while being rescued and the DLC could consist in you trying to give the final blow to the Reapers. 

[Tup3x]

Crushed? Even the best case scenario is hopeless for my canon run (Shepard with Kaidan). They're freaking light years apart.

Though, it's almost acceptable and not that crushing for forever alone runs (i.e. Ashley is alive).

[KoiWeiss]

Militarized wrote...
Koi, were you also as upset as a lot us other Jack fans for the lack of treatment Jack got? One good scene, then you finish it off with everyone getting the same scene in the citadel and never see her again?
 

Completely.

Jack was one of my favorite character from Mass Effect 2 and they give her a single scene. I'm actually not too keen on any of the continuation romancees with people outside of your party, I don't know I just fell like if they truly loved you they would do more than just become war assets. I was at least hoping that Jack would join the party temporarily.

[JayTheWolf]

It's ridiculous. I think Bioware knew they added too many romantic characters and didn't have the time/money to cater to them all as they wanted to. So we get screwed violently.

I don't know... I like this game, but I don't love it.

[KoiWeiss]

JayTheWolf wrote...

It's ridiculous. I think Bioware knew they added too many romantic characters and didn't have the time/money to cater to them all as they wanted to. So we get screwed violently.

I don't know... I like this game, but I don't love it.

I love the game, but the romances outside of the Normandy and the main party? Not so much. Makes me want to dump Jack entirely and hit up Alenko or Liara.

[Pockles]

It was crushed pretty comprehensively. I know a shiny happy ending would be odd, but I still always had that hope tucked away in my mind. Mostly I feel despondent in the extreme about my canon Shepard's fate. It's depressing to think that a character I carried in my brain space for three games doesn't get to see the future she worked so hard to secure, and that the happiness she deserved didn't last.

You hurt me bad, Bioware. I'm not certain I'll keep throwing my money at you if you keep pulling stuff like this.

[RomanDark]

DA2, a complete month of depression

ME3...we'll see

[SierraGHOSTN7]

In my head it was, that femShep finally got with Ash, only before the end of the game. Earlier they were friends. At the end, they had a goodbye and despite all Shep said for Ash to be happy. Then died, sacrificing herself.
I didn't really see her survive.

But still, now when you experience the ending, this everything... it's so overhelming, intense. Depressing.

Modifié par Astaiir, 10 mars 2012 - 07:06 .

[Hadeedak]

I am pretty good with most of it -- like everyone else, I'd like an epilogue, but at the same time, I can see where things would go.

If there's one thing that bothers me, it's that my Shepard would have reacted a lot more strongly to Mordin and Thane going down than anything about Ash. Ashley was a soldier, getting paid for it. She went out well and all, but it's an old wound. Thane and Mordin went out saving everyone and they were closer friends than I ever got the impression she was with Ash. I get why they did it and all... But still. That crushed my headcanon a little.

GARRUS AND THANE AND VANGUARD SHEP WERE A TEAM, DAMNIT. My strike team for scary missions! And Garrus has ONE line about his death that may actually mean Ashley!

[draken-heart]

not that hard, since I head canon Artemis is already in a "casual" romance with her "first" lesbian lover, and the two agreed to be together, but still be able to have sex with whoever they find attractive enough to share a bed with (after they broke up and got back together). And she only romanced Samantha because she thought the comm specialist was hot.

(I haven't finished the game yet either)

Modifié par draken-heart, 10 mars 2012 - 11:05 .

[Karrie788]

Actually, the ending is so absurd it made my headcanon easier.

[ebevan91]

My male Shep and Ashley were supposed to spend the rest of their lives together but I guess that isn't happening.

At least for my original Shep. She was my original Shep's LI. The rest I really don't care about now that it'll lead to nowhere.

I haven't even beaten the game yet but I know how it ends, and I'm not sure I even want to finish it now.

Modifié par ebevan91, 10 mars 2012 - 11:14 .

[Nyaore]

Not that hard, honestly, as I had always expected the possibility that Shepard could die and that the galaxy might be in near ruins by the end. If anything, I just didn't expect for that to practically be the only outcome.
Though I will say that my headcanon about the Dark Energy being behind the Reaper's motivations was horrendously crushed, even though that was apparently their reasoning in the original script. Now I'm left wondering why the even included that plot point in the previous games if they weren't going to use it.

[Nyaore]

Arcian wrote...

Templar Fox wrote...

Big Tali fan here - you must imagine my disappointment. They make a big deal out of building her a home on Rannoch, and you'll never get to see that. Neither will she.

Yeah, it's called realism. You should appreciate it when you get it in games, because it's damn rare.

Why should we appreciate it when it's handled so poorly? Endings like this only work when they're intigrated well into the story itself. Hell, take away the Guardian, do more back writing and hint at them better, and then add a bit more choice into the variables, and they WOULD have worked. The problem is that they were ham-fisted into the story at the last minute with all the care of a rampaging bull. Poorly handled realism in a fictional story often works to it's detriment.

Modifié par Nyaore, 10 mars 2012 - 11:44 .

[Sarah1281]

Not at all, actually. That's because this is the final game so I can continue believing what I want to believe. And I may or may not be changing the actual canon for my head canon version. That's the joy of fanfic, I guess.

[Ieldra]

KoiWeiss wrote...
So how hard did the endings crush your headcanon?
....
Hopes. Dashed.

This.
Civilization fragmented.....ME universe destroyed. All the untold stories in my head...ripped to shreds. 

I can start over, but it's not the same. I basically have to remake the world.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 10 mars 2012 - 11:38 .

[ladyvader]

Ieldra2 wrote...

KoiWeiss wrote...
So how hard did the endings crush your headcanon?
....
Hopes. Dashed.

This.
Civilization fragmented.....ME universe destroyed. All the untold stories in my head...ripped to shreds. 

I can start over, but it's not the same. I basically have to remake the world.

I'm glad I am not the only one the feels that way.  I have an idea floating around in my head and it may be a while before I get around to writing it.  I may just AU everything and try to make an ending that works for Shepard and Liara while trying to keep within what happened in the game.  Ending not withstanding.

Everything I have done to this point has been reduced to AU.  Expect for the one story I wrote set between ME2 and ME3 

[huntrrz]

Militarized wrote...

The sacrafice rings hollow to me, taking illogical choices from the enemy... I just imagine everything past being hit by Harbingers beam as a dream, a really horrible dream that an ending patch/dlc will fix and base the real ending off of what you did.

After a little thought, I've concluded that the developers thought they were being clever and that the cutscene after the credits is the 'out' for all our complaints - the grandfather says that "the details got lost" so that allows each player to write their own ending, potentially ignoring everything that happened that they object to - that was just part of the story that got 'garbled' over time...

It doesn't explain everything, but it is an 'out'.  They're probably scratching their heads wondering why everyone 'missed' it and are so upset!

[huntrrz]

JayTheWolf wrote...

It's ridiculous. I think Bioware knew they added too many romantic characters and didn't have the time/money to cater to them all as they wanted to. So we get screwed violently.

I don't know... I like this game, but I don't love it.

I'm sure they used the metrics ME2 sent back to them to determine which romances were most popular and focused on them.

But I understand your disappointment.

[jlb524]

KoiWeiss wrote...
So how hard did the endings crush your headcanon?

It didn't crush my headcanon, but crused some hopes I had for the future of Shepard/ME universe.

Now, I will employ headcanon to make sense of it.