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PaperAlien wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

This thread again?

Quit Necroing dead issues, they would have to put assets on a PC only mod and they aren't going to do that.

Clearly, it's a dead issue because so many people are still +1ing it.


1. You will notice the bulk of the posters posted 3-4 months ago. Someone revives this thread or one of the other 5-6 text chat threads every month or so. A few more people post, still no text chat though.

2. It's a low priority issue since it is for PC's, which are not the bulk of MP players or even the bulk of the owners of the game. Additionally, when you factor in that not all PC players even read the forums, you have an even smaller subset of people that care about it.

3. Most people would rather see Dev time spent on fixing glitches or putting out new DLC. Text chat would require Dev time to implement since it would require a .bin modification and it would require testing to make sure it didn't interfere with something else in the game.

4. The final nail in the coffin is that we are looking at a game that has been out for months that still has the aforementioned game breaking bugs and glitches. Do you honestly think that given the lack of non-DLC Dev modification, BW is going to invest the time into making a change that a small percentage of less than 1/3 of their players care about?

In other words, or for TL;DR, it is a dead issue.

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It's still damn weird that they had plans to include text chat, there was even a keybind that said text chat in the demo. Well it didn't work and when asked about it in twitter, the answer was that it will be fixed for release. Never imagined fixing would mean removing.

+10

Modifié par Arcataye, 12 juillet 2012 - 09:24 .


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Poll bump to match the thread bump. And reaffirming my +1. I have a mic, but I play in the same room as my family, at the same time as they're watching a movie (it's a nightly thing). Yells of "Phantom!" or "Don't rez me, there's a Banshee teabagging me" would not be appreciated.

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some sort of loby text chat will be great but rly dont want it ingame

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Ogelia wrote...

some sort of loby text chat will be great but rly dont want it ingame

Any particular reason? (Please don't roll out the old ''because it's slow'' excuse- nobody's forcing you to use it.)

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MADGator wrote...

Count me out. Text chat is too slow and annoying. More people need to get on voice chat, at least on PC where it is rare. It helps hugely in game and text chat won't work well mid combat.

Headsets with built in mics cost $10 at Wally-Mart fr PC. Anyone with a speech impediment is forgiven, but as for everyone else on PC it is hard to think of an excuse to NOT have a mic.


You forgot:

People with hearing issues
Women who don't want abuse for being female
Women who don't want to get hit on
Teenagers who don't want abuse for having squeaky voices
Speakers of other languages who aren't confident speaking English
People who play in the same room as family/flatmates and don't want to disturb them
People who feel uncomfortable using mics
People who play music while they are playing and don't want to troll their teammates

...and that list is off the top of my head with no hard thinking required.

Try to realise it is not a case of either voice or text chat. This is a petition to have both. The people I play with who have mics very occasionally use them ingame to call out phantoms or such and never between games. Once we started using an IM program so we could all group chat between games and set games up, our group became a nice friendly community of people, having a lot more fun.

death_for_sale wrote...

PaperAlien wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

This thread again?

Quit Necroing dead issues, they would have to put assets on a PC only mod and they aren't going to do that.

Clearly, it's a dead issue because so many people are still +1ing it.


1.
You will notice the bulk of the posters posted 3-4 months ago. Someone
revives this thread or one of the other 5-6 text chat threads every
month or so. A few more people post, still no text chat though.


Yes, if we had already got it, the thread wouldn't be revived. What's your point? It's not an arguement against text chat. It's a whine. If you don't want to read the thread, don't. It being here doesn't harm you in any way.

death_for_sale wrote...
2.
It's a low priority issue since it is for PC's, which are not the bulk
of MP players or even the bulk of the owners of the game. Additionally,
when you factor in that not all PC players even read the forums, you
have an even smaller subset of people that care about it
.


Yes, it's right that focus is concentrated firstly on things that affect a majority or are game breaking. After that though, no reason not to improve the game withdesired features. I have no idea what your other point is supposed to prove though. If more PC people read and posted on the forums then there'd be more than 40 pages. So what?

Youseem to be mistaking the subset of people who read the forums for the subset of people who want text chat. There's no correlation.

death_for_sale wrote...
3.
Most people would rather see Dev time spent on fixing glitches or
putting out new DLC. Text chat would require Dev time to implement since
it would require a .bin modification and it would require testing to
make sure it didn't interfere with something else in the game.


The people fixing bugs are not the same people who are adding content/features. Invalid arguement. (Also, I think text chat technology is hardly cutting edge nowadays. BW had ingame group text chat in their games released 10 yearsago. It's not going to be some huge drain on finite resources.)

death_for_sale wrote...
4.
The final nail in the coffin is that we are looking at a game that has
been out for months that still has the aforementioned game breaking bugs
and glitches. Do you honestly think that given the lack of non-DLC Dev
modification, BW is going to invest the time into making a change that a
small percentage of less than 1/3 of their players care about?


What coffin? You haven't made a cogent arguement yet. This #4 is pure speculation based on no evidence.

However, the unmappable "T" key , which is reserved for Text chat, shows some work has already been done pre-release. The fact it is still there shows that text chat is still a possibility because for BW to change that key into a normal one is a tiny change they could easily do, but have not. So all either of us can say is that the idea has not
yet been dismissed by BW.

death_for_sale wrote...
In other words, or for TL;DR, it is a dead issue.


Thanks for posting here and keeping it alive on the front page then:D

EDIT: fixing formatting

Modifié par Shia Luck, 12 juillet 2012 - 09:40 .


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death_for_sale wrote...

2. It's a low priority issue since it is for PC's, which are not the bulk of MP players or even the bulk of the owners of the game. Additionally, when you factor in that not all PC players even read the forums, you have an even smaller subset of people that care about it.

Doesn't go on forums=doesn't care about issues. Right.

Shia Luck wrote...

However, the unmappable "T" key , which
is reserved for Text chat, shows some work has already been done
pre-release. The fact it is still there shows that text chat is still a
possibility because for BW to change that key into a normal one is a
tiny change they could easily do, but have not. So all either of us can
say is that the idea has not
yet been dismissed by BW.

Unfortunately, this is more likely a leftover from earlier in developement. Bioware seems to have implemented text chat during developement, and then removed it. The nonfunctional ability to bind a key to text chat was in the Demo. Now that's been removed, it seems they still forgot to remove the reservation of the T key.

Modifié par PaperAlien, 12 juillet 2012 - 10:10 .


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Yes definitely +1

Should have been in game since the start.

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Shia Luck wrote...

MADGator wrote...

Count me out. Text chat is too slow and annoying. More people need to get on voice chat, at least on PC where it is rare. It helps hugely in game and text chat won't work well mid combat.

Headsets with built in mics cost $10 at Wally-Mart fr PC. Anyone with a speech impediment is forgiven, but as for everyone else on PC it is hard to think of an excuse to NOT have a mic.


You forgot:

People with hearing issues
Women who don't want abuse for being female
Women who don't want to get hit on
Teenagers who don't want abuse for having squeaky voices
Speakers of other languages who aren't confident speaking English
People who play in the same room as family/flatmates and don't want to disturb them
People who feel uncomfortable using mics
People who play music while they are playing and don't want to troll their teammates

...and that list is off the top of my head with no hard thinking required.

Try to realise it is not a case of either voice or text chat. This is a petition to have both. The people I play with who have mics very occasionally use them ingame to call out phantoms or such and never between games. Once we started using an IM program so we could all group chat between games and set games up, our group became a nice friendly community of people, having a lot more fun.

death_for_sale wrote...

PaperAlien wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

This thread again?

Quit Necroing dead issues, they would have to put assets on a PC only mod and they aren't going to do that.

Clearly, it's a dead issue because so many people are still +1ing it.


1.
You will notice the bulk of the posters posted 3-4 months ago. Someone
revives this thread or one of the other 5-6 text chat threads every
month or so. A few more people post, still no text chat though.


Yes, if we had already got it, the thread wouldn't be revived. What's your point? It's not an arguement against text chat. It's a whine. If you don't want to read the thread, don't. It being here doesn't harm you in any way.

death_for_sale wrote...
2.
It's a low priority issue since it is for PC's, which are not the bulk
of MP players or even the bulk of the owners of the game. Additionally,
when you factor in that not all PC players even read the forums, you
have an even smaller subset of people that care about it
.


Yes, it's right that focus is concentrated firstly on things that affect a majority or are game breaking. After that though, no reason not to improve the game withdesired features. I have no idea what your other point is supposed to prove though. If more PC people read and posted on the forums then there'd be more than 40 pages. So what?

Youseem to be mistaking the subset of people who read the forums for the subset of people who want text chat. There's no correlation.

death_for_sale wrote...
3.
Most people would rather see Dev time spent on fixing glitches or
putting out new DLC. Text chat would require Dev time to implement since
it would require a .bin modification and it would require testing to
make sure it didn't interfere with something else in the game.


The people fixing bugs are not the same people who are adding content/features. Invalid arguement. (Also, I think text chat technology is hardly cutting edge nowadays. BW had ingame group text chat in their games released 10 yearsago. It's not going to be some huge drain on finite resources.)

death_for_sale wrote...
4.
The final nail in the coffin is that we are looking at a game that has
been out for months that still has the aforementioned game breaking bugs
and glitches. Do you honestly think that given the lack of non-DLC Dev
modification, BW is going to invest the time into making a change that a
small percentage of less than 1/3 of their players care about?


What coffin? You haven't made a cogent arguement yet. This #4 is pure speculation based on no evidence.

However, the unmappable "T" key , which is reserved for Text chat, shows some work has already been done pre-release. The fact it is still there shows that text chat is still a possibility because for BW to change that key into a normal one is a tiny change they could easily do, but have not. So all either of us can say is that the idea has not
yet been dismissed by BW.

death_for_sale wrote...
In other words, or for TL;DR, it is a dead issue.


Thanks for posting here and keeping it alive on the front page then:D

EDIT: fixing formatting


It can be bumped all you like for the level of good it will accomplish. The simple fact is that there is little to no chance of text chat being added during this particular game's shelf life. If it was going to be added, it would have been done so before this long a time had passed.

Maybe in the next ME game...

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+1

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I can understand why people want this, but for me, one of great features of ME3 is lack of text chat. Lack of chat makes people actually try instead of talking about trying, which for me, equals better experience.

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Or Origin can implement a chat function in the overlay with people in your current game. With, of course, an option to opt out if you want. When you're chatting you get a pop-up. Would be nice if you can tell the overlay where on your screen you want the pop-up and have a key-binding for chatting without actually having to open the overlay first. That would be amazing for every game on Origin actually... No idea if this would even be possible, though.

I think that's the best you can hope for since BioWare really isn't going to add these chat UI things to just the pc version.

And as for consoles... unless you're really quick with typing or have a keyboard, I don't think chat in-game is such a good idea. Maybe just for the lobby. You can always not use it, though.

Anyway, +1!

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Not a big deal, all you have to do is what I did, just buy a mic if you want to tell people how much they suck at the game and that they should uninstall. 

Modifié par Baerdface, 12 juillet 2012 - 11:08 .


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/signed +1

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Everyone who is against adding chat support for PC is a Console player, and they don't give a ****, or is a PC player who somehow missed out on the entire library of multiplayer titles on the PC. Because last time I checked, 'most' of the multiplayer titles have chatting, especially co-op games. And don't go with the mic excuse, it's my own damn choice if I don't wanna use a mic. Chat support is a basic feature of online games, and we have the right to complain about it's absence.

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BiO_MaN wrote...

Everyone who is against adding chat support for PC is a Console player, and they don't give a ****, or is a PC player who somehow missed out on the entire library of multiplayer titles on the PC. Because last time I checked, 'most' of the multiplayer titles have chatting, especially co-op games.

True, this is the first PC multiplayer game I've come across that doesn't have text chat and it hasn't been a problem in any of them.
There is no real reason not to include it. I mean, if the reasons were facts, wouldn't that mean that all the hundreds of games with text chat are crappy because of it?

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+1

At least for PC games, this feature has been a given for online games for the past decade and some change. I was a bit baffled ME3 MP lacked it on release.

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Shia Luck wrote...

MADGator wrote...

Count me out. Text chat is too slow and annoying. More people need to get on voice chat, at least on PC where it is rare. It helps hugely in game and text chat won't work well mid combat.

Headsets with built in mics cost $10 at Wally-Mart fr PC. Anyone with a speech impediment is forgiven, but as for everyone else on PC it is hard to think of an excuse to NOT have a mic.


You forgot:

People with hearing issues
Women who don't want abuse for being female
Women who don't want to get hit on
Teenagers who don't want abuse for having squeaky voices
Speakers of other languages who aren't confident speaking English
People who play in the same room as family/flatmates and don't want to disturb them
People who feel uncomfortable using mics
People who play music while they are playing and don't want to troll their teammates

...and that list is off the top of my head with no hard thinking required.

Try to realise it is not a case of either voice or text chat. This is a petition to have both. The people I play with who have mics very occasionally use them ingame to call out phantoms or such and never between games. Once we started using an IM program so we could all group chat between games and set games up, our group became a nice friendly community of people, having a lot more fun.


Well said m8 ;)

+1*1K

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death_for_sale wrote...

Shia Luck wrote...

MADGator wrote...

Count me out. Text chat is too slow and annoying. More people need to get on voice chat, at least on PC where it is rare. It helps hugely in game and text chat won't work well mid combat.

Headsets with built in mics cost $10 at Wally-Mart fr PC. Anyone with a speech impediment is forgiven, but as for everyone else on PC it is hard to think of an excuse to NOT have a mic.


You forgot:

People with hearing issues
Women who don't want abuse for being female
Women who don't want to get hit on
Teenagers who don't want abuse for having squeaky voices
Speakers of other languages who aren't confident speaking English
People who play in the same room as family/flatmates and don't want to disturb them
People who feel uncomfortable using mics
People who play music while they are playing and don't want to troll their teammates

...and that list is off the top of my head with no hard thinking required.

Try to realise it is not a case of either voice or text chat. This is a petition to have both. The people I play with who have mics very occasionally use them ingame to call out phantoms or such and never between games. Once we started using an IM program so we could all group chat between games and set games up, our group became a nice friendly community of people, having a lot more fun.

death_for_sale wrote...

PaperAlien wrote...

death_for_sale wrote...

This thread again?

Quit Necroing dead issues, they would have to put assets on a PC only mod and they aren't going to do that.

Clearly, it's a dead issue because so many people are still +1ing it.


1.
You will notice the bulk of the posters posted 3-4 months ago. Someone
revives this thread or one of the other 5-6 text chat threads every
month or so. A few more people post, still no text chat though.


Yes, if we had already got it, the thread wouldn't be revived. What's your point? It's not an arguement against text chat. It's a whine. If you don't want to read the thread, don't. It being here doesn't harm you in any way.

death_for_sale wrote...
2.
It's a low priority issue since it is for PC's, which are not the bulk
of MP players or even the bulk of the owners of the game. Additionally,
when you factor in that not all PC players even read the forums, you
have an even smaller subset of people that care about it
.


Yes, it's right that focus is concentrated firstly on things that affect a majority or are game breaking. After that though, no reason not to improve the game withdesired features. I have no idea what your other point is supposed to prove though. If more PC people read and posted on the forums then there'd be more than 40 pages. So what?

Youseem to be mistaking the subset of people who read the forums for the subset of people who want text chat. There's no correlation.

death_for_sale wrote...
3.
Most people would rather see Dev time spent on fixing glitches or
putting out new DLC. Text chat would require Dev time to implement since
it would require a .bin modification and it would require testing to
make sure it didn't interfere with something else in the game.


The people fixing bugs are not the same people who are adding content/features. Invalid arguement. (Also, I think text chat technology is hardly cutting edge nowadays. BW had ingame group text chat in their games released 10 yearsago. It's not going to be some huge drain on finite resources.)

death_for_sale wrote...
4.
The final nail in the coffin is that we are looking at a game that has
been out for months that still has the aforementioned game breaking bugs
and glitches. Do you honestly think that given the lack of non-DLC Dev
modification, BW is going to invest the time into making a change that a
small percentage of less than 1/3 of their players care about?


What coffin? You haven't made a cogent arguement yet. This #4 is pure speculation based on no evidence.

However, the unmappable "T" key , which is reserved for Text chat, shows some work has already been done pre-release. The fact it is still there shows that text chat is still a possibility because for BW to change that key into a normal one is a tiny change they could easily do, but have not. So all either of us can say is that the idea has not
yet been dismissed by BW.

death_for_sale wrote...
In other words, or for TL;DR, it is a dead issue.


Thanks for posting here and keeping it alive on the front page then:D

EDIT: fixing formatting


It can be bumped all you like for the level of good it will accomplish. The simple fact is that there is little to no chance of text chat being added during this particular game's shelf life. If it was going to be added, it would have been done so before this long a time had passed.

Maybe in the next ME game...



I assume your logic also states that anything that wasn't in the game's release should not and will not be introduced. Ever. Including DLC, bug fixes, new multiplayer maps...

Evidently the three patches and several DLC we've had so far were introduced after the game's shelf life. Of course, it all makes sense now.

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They still didn't add this? Wow...

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+1

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Text Chat: Because hearing a person speak in a mike is annoying.

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I myself fail to see the poin in this in-game. On gold I don't have time to stop and write instructions while 2 banshees, 3 brutes and 3 ravagers are nearby. I simply don't have the time. On lobby it would be nice if someone wouldn't have a mic to go through the gameplan. But nothing more.

What I'd like them to implement is getting to the ****ing Bioware response with a push of a button. Where is it?

Modifié par Ramsutin, 12 juillet 2012 - 05:44 .


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[quote]SavagelyEpic wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]Shia Luck wrote...

[quote]MADGator wrote...

Count me out. Text chat is too slow and annoying. More people need to get on voice chat, at least on PC where it is rare. It helps hugely in game and text chat won't work well mid combat.

Headsets with built in mics cost $10 at Wally-Mart fr PC. Anyone with a speech impediment is forgiven, but as for everyone else on PC it is hard to think of an excuse to NOT have a mic.[/quote]

You forgot:

People with hearing issues
Women who don't want abuse for being female
Women who don't want to get hit on
Teenagers who don't want abuse for having squeaky voices
Speakers of other languages who aren't confident speaking English
People who play in the same room as family/flatmates and don't want to disturb them
People who feel uncomfortable using mics
People who play music while they are playing and don't want to troll their teammates

...and that list is off the top of my head with no hard thinking required.

Try to realise it is not a case of either voice or text chat. This is a petition to have both. The people I play with who have mics very occasionally use them ingame to call out phantoms or such and never between games. Once we started using an IM program so we could all group chat between games and set games up, our group became a nice friendly community of people, having a lot more fun.

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

[quote]PaperAlien wrote...

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...

This thread again?

Quit Necroing dead issues, they would have to put assets on a PC only mod and they aren't going to do that.[/quote]
Clearly, it's a dead issue because so many people are still +1ing it.
[/quote]

1.
You will notice the bulk of the posters posted 3-4 months ago. Someone
revives this thread or one of the other 5-6 text chat threads every
month or so. A few more people post, still no text chat though.[/quote]

Yes, if we had already got it, the thread wouldn't be revived. What's your point? It's not an arguement against text chat. It's a whine. If you don't want to read the thread, don't. It being here doesn't harm you in any way.

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...
2.
It's a low priority issue since it is for PC's, which are not the bulk
of MP players or even the bulk of the owners of the game. Additionally,
when you factor in that not all PC players even read the forums, you
have an even smaller subset of people that care about it
.[/quote]

Yes, it's right that focus is concentrated firstly on things that affect a majority or are game breaking. After that though, no reason not to improve the game withdesired features. I have no idea what your other point is supposed to prove though. If more PC people read and posted on the forums then there'd be more than 40 pages. So what?

Youseem to be mistaking the subset of people who read the forums for the subset of people who want text chat. There's no correlation.

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...
3.
Most people would rather see Dev time spent on fixing glitches or
putting out new DLC. Text chat would require Dev time to implement since
it would require a .bin modification and it would require testing to
make sure it didn't interfere with something else in the game. [/quote]

The people fixing bugs are not the same people who are adding content/features. Invalid arguement. (Also, I think text chat technology is hardly cutting edge nowadays. BW had ingame group text chat in their games released 10 yearsago. It's not going to be some huge drain on finite resources.)

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...
4.
The final nail in the coffin is that we are looking at a game that has
been out for months that still has the aforementioned game breaking bugs
and glitches. Do you honestly think that given the lack of non-DLC Dev
modification, BW is going to invest the time into making a change that a
small percentage of less than 1/3 of their players care about? [/quote]

What coffin? You haven't made a cogent arguement yet. This #4 is pure speculation based on no evidence.

However, the unmappable "T" key , which is reserved for Text chat, shows some work has already been done pre-release. The fact it is still there shows that text chat is still a possibility because for BW to change that key into a normal one is a tiny change they could easily do, but have not. So all either of us can say is that the idea has not
yet been dismissed by BW.

[quote]death_for_sale wrote...
In other words, or for TL;DR, it is a dead issue.
[/quote]

Thanks for posting here and keeping it alive on the front page then:D

EDIT: fixing formatting

[/quote]

It can be bumped all you like for the level of good it will accomplish. The simple fact is that there is little to no chance of text chat being added during this particular game's shelf life. If it was going to be added, it would have been done so before this long a time had passed.

Maybe in the next ME game...

[/quote]


I assume your logic also states that anything that wasn't in the game's release should not and will not be introduced. Ever. Including DLC, bug fixes, new multiplayer maps...

Evidently the three patches and several DLC we've had so far were introduced after the game's shelf life. Of course, it all makes sense now.

[/quote]

They make money from microtransactions, of course they are going to put out DLC. Bug fixes have been extremely hit or miss and affect all 3 platforms. If you are going to use examples, make sure they actually apply.