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[Train00]

 

[Train00]

Could use some help?

Modifié par Train00, 21 mars 2012 - 03:11 .

[Harbinger of Hope]

I think it depends on your actions in ME2 and how many Ren/Para points you have.

[GoblinSapper]

You need Tali's loyalty and -alot- of reputation. I breezed through it, but I romanced Tali AND did every sidequest prior.

[AlexXIV]

I never noticed she was going to die. When would that be? I rewrote the geth, paragonned through the trial in ME2, played peacekeeper between geth and quarians all the time. That's probably why I got one of the worse endings. But Tali stayed alive as far as I can tell.

[askanec]

This is what I've read regarding your issue:

Geth vs. Quarians
In order to achieve peace between the two races, you need to get 5 to 7 points. These points are based on your ME2 and ME3 decisions. If you have 4 points or below, you cannot achieve peace.

-Rewrote the Heretics (0 points)
-Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points)
-Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points)
-Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points)
-Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

You will need a HIGH reputation for the peace talks. If you rewrote the heretics in ME2 BUT achieve peace, you will gain more war assets, but there'll be less quarians. Also, if you rewrote them, you will face more geth than people who destroyed them, in which they'll face less geth.

[Phydeaux314]

Hrmkay. Short explanation time.

First off, Tali kills herself if the Migrant fleet is destroyed. You can side with them, telling Legion not to upload the data, and thus kill the Geth. This will result in a migrant victory, and Tali will live.

Now, if you want to take a third option and make peace between the Geth and Quarians, you have a fair bit of work cut out for you, and depending on the choices you made in ME2 may not be possible. First, there's a flat out reputation requirement: It's one of the higher checks in the game, requiring (I think) a bar that's in the last part, but doesn't need to be maxed. Second, there are the prequel requirements.

First off, both Tali and Legion need to survive the suicide mission in ME2. If either one is dead, you cannot make peace between the two. After that, it breaks down into a point check: You need 5 "peace points" to open the reputation check, there are seven total that depend on your actions in ME2 and ME3. I forget exactly where they all are, but I'll list the ones I know:

1. Rewriting the heretics gives +0, killing them gives +2.
2. Preventing Tali from being exiled gives +1 or +2, failing gives +0.
3. Rescuing Admiral Koris gives +1.

I know there are at least two more, but I'm blanking on what they are.

[Computron2000]

As far as i can see its choosing between either Legion or Tali but Legion's death brings you both geth and quarian fleets. Not sure what blocks the choice of the paragon and renegade choices but i told legion to upload the Reaper code and at 80% used the paragon dialogue choice. Possibly you can try to not let Legion upload?

[Dresden867]

The easiest way to keep Tali is to support the Quarians instead of the Geth. Assuming this isn't what you want to do, then you'll have to make peace.

Formula for peace (5+ points required) -
+2 for Tali is exonerated at her trial
+2 for destroyed the heretics
+1 for resolving the Tali/Legon conflict with a renegade or paragon solution
+1 for destroying the geth fighter base
+1 for rescuing the admiral (not his men, the admiral)

The first three are, of course, all from ME2, and the second two are the side missions on Rannoch itself.

Assuming you're at 5+ points, during the upload sequence, there is also a paragade option. It requires a hell of a lot of alignment (I was nearly maxxed). Going for this should, assuming everything else is solid, get you a "peace" resolution.

[Train00]

Phydeaux314 wrote...

Hrmkay. Short explanation time.

First off, Tali kills herself if the Migrant fleet is destroyed. You can side with them, telling Legion not to upload the data, and thus kill the Geth. This will result in a migrant victory, and Tali will live.

Now, if you want to take a third option and make peace between the Geth and Quarians, you have a fair bit of work cut out for you, and depending on the choices you made in ME2 may not be possible. First, there's a flat out reputation requirement: It's one of the higher checks in the game, requiring (I think) a bar that's in the last part, but doesn't need to be maxed. Second, there are the prequel requirements.

First off, both Tali and Legion need to survive the suicide mission in ME2. If either one is dead, you cannot make peace between the two. After that, it breaks down into a point check: You need 5 "peace points" to open the reputation check, there are seven total that depend on your actions in ME2 and ME3. I forget exactly where they all are, but I'll list the ones I know:

1. Rewriting the heretics gives +0, killing them gives +2.
2. Preventing Tali from being exiled gives +1 or +2, failing gives +0.
3. Rescuing Admiral Koris gives +1.

I know there are at least two more, but I'm blanking on what they are.

how exactly do i see how many points i have?

[waynekautz]

You can tell Legion to upload the upgrades and still save the fleet. You just have to convince the Quarians to back off. Not sure how much rep you need... I uploaded the upgrades, saved the Geth and Quarian fleets, and romanced Tali.

[ticklefist]

Train00 wrote...

 how exactly do i see how many points i have?

It's not something you see. Do you not remember your actions in ME2? That might make it tough.

[Train00]

i have done all of those things except destroying the heretics, i rewrote them thinking they could be useful in the future.

[Train00]

- and how do i destroy geth fighter base?

[Dresden867]

Legion should offer you that as a sidequest on Rannoch. Do it before you go for the Reaper base.

[lasertank]

Doesn't matter. You get the same ending options.

[Train00]

Dresden867 wrote...

Legion should offer you that as a sidequest on Rannoch. Do it before you go for the Reaper base.

Thanks you saved my day!

[Train00]

askanec wrote...

This is what I've read regarding your issue:

Geth vs. Quarians
In order to achieve peace between the two races, you need to get 5 to 7 points. These points are based on your ME2 and ME3 decisions. If you have 4 points or below, you cannot achieve peace.

-Rewrote the Heretics (0 points)
-Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points)
-Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points)
-Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points)
-Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

You will need a HIGH reputation for the peace talks. If you rewrote the heretics in ME2 BUT achieve peace, you will gain more war assets, but there'll be less quarians. Also, if you rewrote them, you will face more geth than people who destroyed them, in which they'll face less geth. 

How exaclty do i destroy the geth squadron?

Modifié par Train00, 10 mars 2012 - 06:23 .

[Computron2000]

Talk to Admiral Rann. She should be in the room where you check your war assets. She will tell you about the fighter base. I have heard that if you got the mission and go do other quests instead, it goes away after X number of other quests done

[Sarah1281]

So I'm at the choice between the quarians and the geth right now. For some reaosn, I'm only getting two options. Fortunately, I still have a save during the Geth consensus bit so I can go back but I need to understand why.

Unfortunately I rewrote the heretics so there's no points there but Tali was not exiled and I gained her loyalty so that's two. I resolved her conflict with Legion in the first game with the paragon option so that's three. I saved the Admiral so that's four. I did the Geth consensus thing so that should be five.

-Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

What exactly is Legion's mission? I'm not sure if I completed that or not.

Any ideas where I went wrong?

[zerebul]

Sarah1281 wrote...

So I'm at the choice between the quarians and the geth right now. For some reaosn, I'm only getting two options. Fortunately, I still have a save during the Geth consensus bit so I can go back but I need to understand why.

Unfortunately I rewrote the heretics so there's no points there but Tali was not exiled and I gained her loyalty so that's two. I resolved her conflict with Legion in the first game with the paragon option so that's three. I saved the Admiral so that's four. I did the Geth consensus thing so that should be five.

-Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

What exactly is Legion's mission? I'm not sure if I completed that or not.

Any ideas where I went wrong?

I think that is the shortwave radio signal or whatever the hell its called. The place legion talks about after yout ake him out of his reaper chamber.

[waynekautz]

You'll deff know when you're doing it. You have to go destroy a Reaper server with Legion BEFORE you go to take out the Reaper base. Same planet, different mission. It's easy to tell though. Check your journal at the time and do the one that *doesn't* say 'Priority' next to it. The priority one is the story mission that will block out the side mission with Legion. I don't want to spoil the mission, but you'll know you're doing it because it's... let's say trippy.

[Train00]

Sarah1281 wrote...

So I'm at the choice between the quarians and the geth right now. For some reaosn, I'm only getting two options. Fortunately, I still have a save during the Geth consensus bit so I can go back but I need to understand why.

Unfortunately I rewrote the heretics so there's no points there but Tali was not exiled and I gained her loyalty so that's two. I resolved her conflict with Legion in the first game with the paragon option so that's three. I saved the Admiral so that's four. I did the Geth consensus thing so that should be five.

-Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

What exactly is Legion's mission? I'm not sure if I completed that or not.

Any ideas where I went wrong?

Its the geth space mission i think, and you need to have high para/ren to chose one of the other options. I filled it to the fifth bar and i made peace by using the renegade option.

Modifié par Train00, 11 mars 2012 - 09:44 .

[Balmung31]

askanec wrote...

This is what I've read regarding your issue:

Geth vs. Quarians
In order to achieve peace between the two races, you need to get 5 to 7 points. These points are based on your ME2 and ME3 decisions. If you have 4 points or below, you cannot achieve peace.

-Rewrote the Heretics (0 points)
-Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points)
-Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points)
-Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points)
-Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

You will need a HIGH reputation for the peace talks. If you rewrote the heretics in ME2 BUT achieve peace, you will gain more war assets, but there'll be less quarians. Also, if you rewrote them, you will face more geth than people who destroyed them, in which they'll face less geth.

This really interests me.  Are you saying the combat segments of the game can be made easier or harder depending on choices made in the two prior games? 

That's a pretty awesome gameplay mechanic.  Too bad the endings put me off from exploring these options...

Modifié par Balmung31, 11 mars 2012 - 09:47 .

[Train00]

Balmung31 wrote...

askanec wrote...

This is what I've read regarding your issue:

Geth vs. Quarians
In order to achieve peace between the two races, you need to get 5 to 7 points. These points are based on your ME2 and ME3 decisions. If you have 4 points or below, you cannot achieve peace.

-Rewrote the Heretics (0 points)
-Destroyed the Heretics (+2 points)
-Tali is NOT exiled (+2 points)
-Tali has been exiled/You did not do the Loyalty Mission (0 points)
-Resolved Legion/Tali conflict either using the Paragon or Renegade options (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Save the Admiral on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-N7 Mission: Destroy Geth Squadron on Rannoch in ME3 (+1 point)
-Completed Legion's Mission in ME3 (or no peace)

You will need a HIGH reputation for the peace talks. If you rewrote the heretics in ME2 BUT achieve peace, you will gain more war assets, but there'll be less quarians. Also, if you rewrote them, you will face more geth than people who destroyed them, in which they'll face less geth.

This really interests me.  Are you saying the combat segments of the game can be made easier or harder depending on choices made in the two prior games? 

That's a pretty awesome gameplay mechanic.  Too bad the endings put me off from exploring these options...

I havent reached the ending yet, but the things i read about it really makes me feel that i shouldnt play anymore just beause of the ending.