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[Frocharocha]

 After 30 hours of playtrought i could organize the biggest army in the galaxy (about 4000 if i recorded) to finally assault Earth, see everyone dying , make Ilussive Man kill himself and for what? See the same sick eding. Don't get me wrong, i loved the game. But the eding is bassicaly:

- Reapers die, Sheperd dies, Galaxy is screwed, your team ends up somewhere.
-Reapers are controlled, Sheperd lives, Galaxy is screwed, your teams ends up somewhere.
- Reapers lives, Sheperd dies, Galaxy is screwed, your team became sintetic/organic and ends up somewhere.

The most bizarre was the secret ending. Thousand of years have passed a the sentient races trapped on the misterious planet still doesn't activacted space travel. Woot.

So i got the perfect eding on ME1 and ME2 for nothing at all. Anyway the game is amazing and i will spend my time on multiplayer. Loved the game bioware, and i loved the ME2 meme references.

Modifié par Frocharocha, 10 mars 2012 - 02:06 .

[Adsinjapan]

Last I heard, being turned into dust when you control the Reapers isn't all that survivable.

[10 Steps Back]

*ending

[thavleifrim]

actually the endings are: red light and stuff happens blue light and the same stuff happens green light and the same stuff happens. also Sheppard can survive if you destroy the reapers.

[deathscythe517]

Is it just me or is the whole "TECHNOLOGY BAD!" ending kind of lampooned by the fact that one of the biggest bastards in 3 was that **** Gerrel?

[GuiltySource]

I don't understand how Shep can control the Reapers, aren't they all each a nation independent?

Plot holes I tell you, plot holes!

Modifié par GuiltySource, 10 mars 2012 - 01:50 .

[Militarized]

Gerrel?

[Wattoes]

Everyone turns into half of a machine.... wait what?

[Militarized]

GuiltySource wrote...

I don't understand how Shep can control the Reapers, aren't they all each a nation independent?

Plot holes I tell you, plot holes!

I made a thread about this, but no one really answered the very nature of the reapers is dismissed by the ending as well I felt. They're no longer the big, unfathomable bad ass's they are and instead are just these dumb, giant sarcaophagus's with VI programmed for megalomania

[Elishiaila]

Adsinjapan wrote...

Last I heard, being turned into dust when you control the Reapers isn't all that survivable.

As Shep controls the Reapers, that turning to Dust is actually "turning into AI"  being "Uploaded" to the system that controls the reapers. So at this point it is possible to create a body similar to what EDI has in the game, and "assume direct control". Or use some other Reaper tech to assume direct control of a body cloned. Shep left some "DNA Evidence" on the ship. So Lazarus way is possible for body reconstruction. The rest is?

"Assuming direct control".

Is it possible? 

[Jackal7713]

Yes the plot holes and endings are very bad. I can't help but feel they were rushed. Maybe, its due to the leak that happened in the fall.

[FoxShadowblade]

Admiral Han'Gerrel...y'know, that kill crazy quarian.

What iwant to know is why Shepard is such a weak-willed ****** ant. ME2: I won't let fear compromise who I am! ...ME3: organics and synthetics will always fight. Shepard: "Oh my god you're right, it's not like I just made peace between them. Which ending do you want to spoon feed me again?

[DiTHmaphacks]

GuiltySource wrote...

I don't understand how Shep can control the Reapers, aren't they all each a nation independent?

Plot holes I tell you, plot holes!

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Each Reaper is 1 race(Protheans or w/e) but learning 10 minutes before the trilogy ends that the Reapers are controlled by something,that the citadel is part of, and can read minds(because it took the shape of the child Shepard had nightmares is what i call a blunder.

[Frocharocha]

Each Reaper is 1 race(Protheans or w/e) but learning 10 minutes before the trilogy ends that the Reapers are controlled by something,that the citadel is part of, and can read minds(because it took the shape of the child Shepard had nightmares is what i call a blunder.

Yeah, at the middle of the game, i don't remeber where but someone said that the Reapers worked for someting greater. Anyway. the plot of ME3 has nothing to do at all with ME2 plot. At ME2 the Reapers invade the galaxy each 50.000 years to reproduce while in ME3 they invade the galaxy to kill/eslave all organic life forms and to keep order. Also they are not immortal like in ME1. Their shields can go down with insane firepower. Homever their hull is very hard to break as wee can see with Reaper Destroyers.

[Adsinjapan]

DiTHmaphacks wrote...

and can read minds(because it took the shape of the child Shepard had nightmares is what i call a blunder.

Where have I seen something like that before??

Oh yeah! Now I remember! The Dean Koontz movie "Phantoms"!

[Jackal7713]

DiTHmaphacks wrote...

GuiltySource wrote...

I don't understand how Shep can control the Reapers, aren't they all each a nation independent?

Plot holes I tell you, plot holes!

Each Reaper is 1 race(Protheans or w/e) but learning 10 minutes before the trilogy ends that the Reapers are controlled by something,that the citadel is part of, and can read minds(because it took the shape of the child Shepard had nightmares is what i call a blunder.

This is the Major plot hole. ME1 Seran and Sovereign attack the citadel to usher in the reapers. Why didn't the program (starkid)  just launch at that time?

If I wrong please corret me.

[GuiltySource]

Jackal7713 wrote...

DiTHmaphacks wrote...

GuiltySource wrote...

I don't understand how Shep can control the Reapers, aren't they all each a nation independent?

Plot holes I tell you, plot holes!

Each Reaper is 1 race(Protheans or w/e) but learning 10 minutes before the trilogy ends that the Reapers are controlled by something,that the citadel is part of, and can read minds(because it took the shape of the child Shepard had nightmares is what i call a blunder.

This is the Major plot hole. ME1 Seran and Sovereign attack the citadel to usher in the reapers. Why didn't the program (starkid)  just launch at that time?

If I wrong please corret me.

Not to mention the fact Sovereign building an army to assault the Citadel. Why didn't he just move the Citadel and activate it free from the council races.

[deathscythe517]

Militarized wrote...

GuiltySource wrote...

I don't understand how Shep can control the Reapers, aren't they all each a nation independent?

Plot holes I tell you, plot holes!

I made a thread about this, but no one really answered the very nature of the reapers is dismissed by the ending as well I felt. They're no longer the big, unfathomable bad ass's they are and instead are just these dumb, giant sarcaophagus's with VI programmed for megalomania

The Reapers should have remained ambiguous or, here's an even BETTER IDEA.

In an effort to sustain a dying populace a scientist attempted many things, cures, implants, many things, but none of it worked. As things went on he grew steadily more and more unhinged as those he cared about died from illness around him, to the point he no longer cared about saving, but preserving his people. This man would become the 'mind' of the first Reaper, ascending from a simple man, absorbing his dying people to give them immortality, and realizing, why stop there? Why not spread the glory? The monstrosity began to gave off an unnatural aura...a signal...a tingling at the back of the skull, mutating the other living organisms  to act as servants to fully achieve its glory.

We are each a nation, free of weakness.
We are perfection.
And we will spread our glory.

But it found that when it 'propagated' by going across the galaxy harvesting all life...there was nothing left...it was but a handful of its kind. So it began to plan, to build up a society that would follow the path it wanted, to grow to the pinnacle of intelligent, and then grant them the blessing of ascending to a higher plan of existence. To become "Reaper."

This Harbinger of the cycle of extinction and rebirth harvested resources from the universe, built the mass relays, and left behind technology of a 'long forgotten race' for new organic life to find. It slept in the abyss with its few brethren and waited...

A nation rises. It is violently cast down.
And it ascends to glory shortly after.

[Destrega]

I still feel like that is the best explanation for the reapers, afterall who's to say that kid would tell you the truth anyways? I think they were just grasping at straws at that point, trying to stop Shepard.
Offering him a couple false choices to try and save themselves (trying to control them because that's worked out great before, hey jump into this energy beam you'll be a martyr!) or 3. Since you're too dumb to work the control panel, blow something up and hope that it will fire the thing.

[Jonathan Shepard]

deathscythe517 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

GuiltySource wrote...

I don't understand how Shep can control the Reapers, aren't they all each a nation independent?

Plot holes I tell you, plot holes!

I made a thread about this, but no one really answered the very nature of the reapers is dismissed by the ending as well I felt. They're no longer the big, unfathomable bad ass's they are and instead are just these dumb, giant sarcaophagus's with VI programmed for megalomania

The Reapers should have remained ambiguous or, here's an even BETTER IDEA.

In an effort to sustain a dying populace a scientist attempted many things, cures, implants, many things, but none of it worked. As things went on he grew steadily more and more unhinged as those he cared about died from illness around him, to the point he no longer cared about saving, but preserving his people. This man would become the 'mind' of the first Reaper, ascending from a simple man, absorbing his dying people to give them immortality, and realizing, why stop there? Why not spread the glory? The monstrosity began to gave off an unnatural aura...a signal...a tingling at the back of the skull, mutating the other living organisms  to act as servants to fully achieve its glory.

We are each a nation, free of weakness.
We are perfection.
And we will spread our glory.

But it found that when it 'propagated' by going across the galaxy harvesting all life...there was nothing left...it was but a handful of its kind. So it began to plan, to build up a society that would follow the path it wanted, to grow to the pinnacle of intelligent, and then grant them the blessing of ascending to a higher plan of existence. To become "Reaper."

This Harbinger of the cycle of extinction and rebirth harvested resources from the universe, built the mass relays, and left behind technology of a 'long forgotten race' for new organic life to find. It slept in the abyss with its few brethren and waited...

A nation rises. It is violently cast down.
And it ascends to glory shortly after.

The best explanation for the Reapers yet. One of the best anyway. Best I've heard. Elegant, powerful, tragic, and horrific. Everything Mac Walters wanted to evoke and failed at.