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[BrotherFluffy]

 I love Mass Effect.  I've been a fan since the first game.  I've sunk God knows how many hours into these games, and I love Mass Effect 3...

...right up to the last ten minutes.

     I honestly don't know what BioWare was thinking with these endings.  I understand some of them were going to be bad, that you REALLY had to work to get a "good" ending.  And I did.  I had 90% readiness, 6,000 war assets, did everything I could to ensure victory over the Reapers and Shepard's survival.  Except there is only 1 ending Shepard survives in, and even in that, it's still nowhere near "happy" as Shepard's crew is stuck on some rock in the middle of nowhere, and intergalactic civilization is about to grind to a screeching halt thanks to the loss of the Relays.  Far from "perfect," Bioware.  

     There are 2 things that bother me the most are the loss of the Relays and the Normandy's unexplained departure from the battlefield.  First, let's talk Relays.  I can see why the writers wanted to remove them, they're a part of the cycle, a way to guide newer civilizations along the paths the Reapers wanted.  Now that the cycle is broken, they should be removed to allow sentient life to find it's own way in the galaxy.  I get it.  However, pretty much ALL technology from Mass Effect is based off of the tech the Reapers left for us to find.  So unless you destroy Eezo, mass effect fields, incapacitate ALL weapons, etc it doesn't make much sense.  In addition, as Shepard, you're fighting to PRESERVE galactic civilization, whether for humanity or for all life, and at the end, you pretty much wipe it out by blowing up all the Mass Effect Relays.  Without the Relays, any long-distance travel is impossible, meaning you've now cut off a large majority of planets from key resources.  And hard-hit worlds like Earth, Palaven, and Thessia will most likely die without outside help.  Considering you're fighting to avoid hitting the galactic reset button, the game does a hell of a job into forcing it to happen anyway.  

    Second, the Normandy.  What the Hell?  Why is Joker bugging out with your whole squad in the middle of the fight?  He has consistently stayed by your side the whole series, and there is no way in hell your team would leave you if they thought you were still alive, which they knew you were.  Hackett calls you directly in the final scene, so Alliance Command KNOWS Shepard's still alive.  So why the hell is Joker running?  At least if he'd stayed and crashed on Earth, if you managed to save Shepard he'd be reunited with his crew.  

    Finally, I find it ironic that in the conversation with the Catalyst, in the ONLY response you get talking to him, the Paragon option says that people need a future, that without a future there is no hope, and we're all just machines anyway.  Because two minutes later, BioWare promptly strips that future, that hope from us, and leaves us with only one true choice that matters:  What color do you want your explosion?

[deathscythe517]

Yep, that's the general consensus. We have like...1 or 2 defending the ending, more saying the endings would be fine with some corrective edits, but the vast majority want something brighter or more noticeable variety (like the ability for the Reapers to actually win).

[shnellegaming]

You are preaching to the choir. Jump into the forum that has about 650 pages in it already and take the poll in my sig.

http://social.biowar...5/index/9512916

[fish of doom]

there's also the fact that the thing about synthetics and organics making war is retarded, because organics also kill other organics, and synthetics would very likely kill other synthetics (see ME2 geth heretics). conflict (not just war) is a defining characteristic of life, whatever its origin. it simply makes no sense to have the current justification in place.

Modifié par fish of doom, 10 mars 2012 - 02:36 .

[DemonsSouls]

I thought the ending was great!

Up until the Normandy was seen jumping into hyperspace only to crash on some random planet with Tali getting out of it... wait, when did she get on the Normandy again? Cause last I saw her she was charging a beam of light on earth with me...

If they cut that scene out the ending would be a lot better. And I could do without the old man and the kid too. Less is more. I'd much rather fade to credits and imagine what happened for myself... now I'm just confused and agitated.

[Kitten Tactics]

Seriously. The conflicts in ME were not strictly synthetics vs. organics. A crime lord doesn't care if you're a geth or a turian, he is going to kill you if you don't pay up. For them to insist that everything boils down to synthetics vs. organics when we have ALREADY PROVEN, multiple times over, that it doesn't...is just stupid.

[fish of doom]

@kitten tactics: EXACTLY! it shows a complete lack of understanding of any kind of sociopolitical dynamics, and that's just restricting ourselves to inter-sentient violence! to make a really supid analogy: carnivores kill other animals to eat. herbivores kill plants to eat. you don't see giant space plants killing all herbivores to prevent excess CO2 (dark energy), or giant space dinosaurs killing herbivores because eventually smaller carnivores will kill them (synths vs orgs).

[BrotherFluffy]

Up until the Normandy was seen jumping into hyperspace only to crash on some random planet with Tali getting out of it... wait, when did she get on the Normandy again? Cause last I saw her she was charging a beam of light on earth with me...

Yeah, if they had cut out the Normandy scene, I could be able to live with the Destroy option because I could at least imagine that the fleets survived and Shepard's crew is waiting for him back on Earth.  Sure, there's still the Mass Relay issue, but with so many surviving ships and all the brightest minds in the galaxy, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to think they could do something about that.

[JasmoVT]

Yeah for me it is the Normandy crash that makes the ending completely illogical for the reasons articulated above. Also it seems to me if the magic pulse made Normandy crash, then it must have made every ship in Sol space crash so the Quarian race is completely erradicated and what is left of Earth is turned into an uninhabitable waste land from all the ezo cores crashing to earth. I am waiting for the expansion in which it is revealed it is really earth the Normandy crashed on ( how could it be anywhere else) and the entire 40 hour game is about Ken and Gabby craving a farm out of the wilderness, making babies and shooting the giant rats that come to eat their crops.