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[riverandme2]

Wow! Y'all r pretty upset! What's wrong? Don't appreciate the picture the artist painted? I got an idea, why don't you all band together, pool your funds and ideas, and create your own game! Put this energy to good use! As far as I'm concerned, I liked my Shepard's ending. Still the best game I have EVER played and I am on my second play thru. I can only assume you are all young because you are acting like spoiled little brats!

[Xellith]

You liked your shepards ending? You mean the one that would have been identical had you played completely different? Lulz.

[Drake_1000]

DerNix wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

Omega? Please tell me you're joking.

We will see. For me its obvious.
Omega was the best area in ME2 and its not hard for Bioware to make a ME3 DLC about it.

It just doesn't make sense. Aria told you that she will take back Omega after the battle. Assuming the surprise attack on the citadel by the reapers and the following destruction there is no Aria anymore...

Edit: and don't forget there are no mass relays. It will take decades to go from Sol system to Omega. For Aria no problem but for the mercenaries. And there are barely fuel depots because the reapers destroyed them. No that's illogical.

I dont remember if Aria tell you "retake Omega after the Reaper's Battle" but with a DLC Bioware can make a story like "we must take back Omega because of the evil plan Cerberus is about to do there".

Anyway all this Omega DLC stuff is obvious for me, i can understand other people dont think the same, but there is no way Bioware dont make at least one DLC right now. And i dont buy it, i want a Ending DLC.

Modifié par Drake_1000, 10 mars 2012 - 03:59 .

[Paparob]

riverandme2 wrote...

Wow! Y'all r pretty upset! What's wrong? Don't appreciate the picture the artist painted? I got an idea, why don't you all band together, pool your funds and ideas, and create your own game! Put this energy to good use! As far as I'm concerned, I liked my Shepard's ending. Still the best game I have EVER played and I am on my second play thru. I can only assume you are all young because you are acting like spoiled little brats!

lolwut.

Dude just because people are bothered by the endings doesn't make them immature. A lot of the criticism I've seen is calm, well thought out and rational. I'm in the middle of a second play through too and still find the gameplay a blast, but the lack of closure at the end is very real criticism.

Modifié par Paparob, 10 mars 2012 - 03:59 .

[Anthadlas]

riverandme2 wrote...

Wow! Y'all r pretty upset! What's wrong? Don't appreciate the picture the artist painted? I got an idea, why don't you all band together, pool your funds and ideas, and create your own game! Put this energy to good use! As far as I'm concerned, I liked my Shepard's ending. Still the best game I have EVER played and I am on my second play thru. I can only assume you are all young because you are acting like spoiled little brats!

Don't stereotype people as brats because you don't agree and don't think just because nobody has created a game that our opinions are invalid, The thousands of other people complaining about the endings who are infact the majority have a right to voice their concerns

[realpokerjedi]

Dragon Age II is a great example, EA and Bioware claimed it was a success, regardless of the feedback from fans.
Yet the only reason it was a success was due to the fact most loved Dragon Age Origins.
Expecting no let down, they rushed out to buy it and probably the collectors edition guide.
Same thing happened here, Although the entire DAII game was a joke.
It somehow still managed to get by quality control.
I remember how GAME dropped everyone's pre orders over there for the collectors edition Mass effect 3. I remember feeling sorry for them.
Now I think they are the luckiest people on earth.

[jb1983]

riverandme2 wrote...

Wow! Y'all r pretty upset! What's wrong? Don't appreciate the picture the artist painted? I got an idea, why don't you all band together, pool your funds and ideas, and create your own game! Put this energy to good use! As far as I'm concerned, I liked my Shepard's ending. Still the best game I have EVER played and I am on my second play thru. I can only assume you are all young because you are acting like spoiled little brats!

I really wish people would think through what they're saying...

"Don't like the painting the artist created?" What are you talking about? The whole big selling point of the ME series is that we were the artists. Bioware simply provided the canvass, some of the lines, and then allowed us to paint by number, so while all paintings were similar, they were still different. They then took that away from us completely in ME3. So it's not a matter of not liking what an artist did - it's that they removed us as fellow artists (if you want to use that silly analogy). 

As for being young, we are the ones who understand the use of "are" in exclusion to "r"...

[Drake_1000]

Don't feed the troll !

[Archereon]

GracefulChicken wrote...

No kidding. What baffles me the most is that Bioware clearly has talented writers on their staff, and intelligent enough people to put all this stuff together... so the fact that someone thought this was a good idea, and no one spoke up, is amazing to me. Oversight on a multimillion dollar project can't be that horrible, can it?

That said, I'd happily buy a DLC rectifying the endings just because I know the incredible stuff Bioware is capable of putting out. But after this, it's going to be a challenge to have faith in the fact that they actually will.

Maybe Mac Walters is depressed or something, and decided "The world is horrible, ME3 must end horribly." That's how End of Evangelion happened after all.

Alternatively, they did this intentionally to create a market for DLC. I wouldn't put it above EA, nor BioWare these days.

On another hand, maybe the writers realized that EA would do everything in their power to milk this game, and decided to make endings that would kill the franchise to prevent EA from making them churn out a ****ty ME shovelware game every year.

[Trishot]

riverandme2 wrote...

Wow! Y'all r pretty upset! What's wrong? Don't appreciate the picture the artist painted? I got an idea, why don't you all band together, pool your funds and ideas, and create your own game! Put this energy to good use! As far as I'm concerned, I liked my Shepard's ending. Still the best game I have EVER played and I am on my second play thru. I can only assume you are all young because you are acting like spoiled little brats!

That awkward moment when someone who cannot spell, calls you a spoiled little brat.

Archereon wrote...

GracefulChicken wrote...

No kidding. What baffles me the most is that Bioware clearly has talented writers on their staff, and intelligent enough people to put all this stuff together... so the fact that someone thought this was a good idea, and no one spoke up, is amazing to me. Oversight on a multimillion dollar project can't be that horrible, can it? 

That said, I'd happily buy a DLC rectifying the endings just because I know the incredible stuff Bioware is capable of putting out. But after this, it's going to be a challenge to have faith in the fact that they actually will.

Maybe Mac Walters is depressed or something, and decided "The world is horrible, ME3 must end horribly." That's how End of Evangelion happened after all.

Alternatively, they did this intentionally to create a market for DLC. I wouldn't put it above EA, nor BioWare these days.

On another hand, maybe the writers realized that EA would do everything in their power to milk this game, and decided to make endings that would kill the franchise to prevent EA from making them churn out a ****ty ME shovelware game every year.

I highly doubt a writer would destroy his own piece of art.

Modifié par Trishot, 10 mars 2012 - 04:04 .

[realpokerjedi]

Wraith 02 wrote...

riverandme2 wrote...

Wow! Y'all r pretty upset! What's wrong? Don't appreciate the picture the artist painted? I got an idea, why don't you all band together, pool your funds and ideas, and create your own game! Put this energy to good use! As far as I'm concerned, I liked my Shepard's ending. Still the best game I have EVER played and I am on my second play thru. I can only assume you are all young because you are acting like spoiled little brats!

Don't stereotype people as brats because you don't agree and don't think just because nobody has created a game that our opinions are invalid, The thousands of other people complaining about the endings who are infact the majority have a right to voice their concerns

I would say Troll, but they tend to be more insulting.
They never use the term brats.
I can only assume, you never played the other games and bought the game for the action alone.
If you like the endings, okay great but why?
You should defend your prespective at least somehwhat.
Most of us bought the collectors edition I'd wager.
I think anyone who pays 80 dollars for a purchase, has a right to voice a opinion when they are unsatisfied.
If anything you sound the the immature brat kid, attacking those who do not think as you do.
I feel confident labeling you as a probable religious Zealot, dropping such profanity as "spoiled brat".
I can't get my money back (PC version) so the least they could do is let us who are unhappy know if they will do anything about it.

Modifié par realpokerjedi, 10 mars 2012 - 04:08 .

[mulder1199]

i've said it in the other thread....EA/bioware will not get another cent from me until the ending is rectified

[jb1983]

Archereon wrote...

GracefulChicken wrote...

No kidding. What baffles me the most is that Bioware clearly has talented writers on their staff, and intelligent enough people to put all this stuff together... so the fact that someone thought this was a good idea, and no one spoke up, is amazing to me. Oversight on a multimillion dollar project can't be that horrible, can it?

That said, I'd happily buy a DLC rectifying the endings just because I know the incredible stuff Bioware is capable of putting out. But after this, it's going to be a challenge to have faith in the fact that they actually will.

Maybe Mac Walters is depressed or something, and decided "The world is horrible, ME3 must end horribly." That's how End of Evangelion happened after all.

Alternatively, they did this intentionally to create a market for DLC. I wouldn't put it above EA, nor BioWare these days.

On another hand, maybe the writers realized that EA would do everything in their power to milk this game, and decided to make endings that would kill the franchise to prevent EA from making them churn out a ****ty ME shovelware game every year.

They chose the sacrifice option. 

Maybe the ending is just the writer's cryptic analogy to their own lives working for EA. EA is the god-child, coming up with illogical solutions to problems that don't actually exist (see: geth/quarians for a solution to the entire freaking drive of the game). They felt that sacrificing their credentials as writers was the only way to truly save the series. Yes, it erased Mass Effect from the level of epic games (this is covered by the destruction of the ME relays), and it stranded their fans on a lonely planet, not knowing what was going on (the Normandy is analogous to us on this), but in the end, it stopped the spread of the Reapers (EA). 

Of course I'm joking, but sadly this explanation makes the ending make more sense than it currently does. 

[Dean_the_Young]

Drake_1000 wrote...

The probability of this to happen is very very low. Let's face it people.

1) The majority of the people who hate the endings are not the majority of the ME3 gamers but the majority of the ME fans. It's a huge point for EA. Not for Bioware, they think about us but they cant do anything right now.

2) EA want money. They dont care about "betray" us. Bioware cant do anything about the ending if EA dont agree.

3) If the next DLC are a success for EA (Omega DLC is the next) they will not give a **** about the "EndinGate".

4) If the next DLC are a fail they going to make a another one (maybe Omega DLC is not alone right now) and see what happens.

5) At some point, with people from Bioware who report to EA the "EndinGate" in the community, with a fail for the DLC, maybe EA will try to listen to us. Again the probability of this is very low.


So :

- Don't buy any DLC.
- Don't buy any EA games or Bioware games.
- Don't play to ME123 anymore (they see it).
- Don't stop to complain about the endings.

This are the only weapons we have in this fight ! If we stand together we can win !

If you remove yourself from the Bioware franchise and don't buy any DLC, what will you win (other than diminishing Bioware)?

[Kitten Tactics]

I must say, every time I see this thread pop back up, I get excited for a split second. You really should have picked a better name for it

[realfcbstuff]

i hate the ending too... please.. .do something about it..

[Wazooty]

Maybe they purposely did it this way just to suspend the belief of shepards death. Make it believable.

Then they'll release some free dlc with a proper epilogue where everything is happy and roses and rainbows or whatever.

[Archereon]

Trishot wrote...

riverandme2 wrote...

Wow! Y'all r pretty upset! What's wrong? Don't appreciate the picture the artist painted? I got an idea, why don't you all band together, pool your funds and ideas, and create your own game! Put this energy to good use! As far as I'm concerned, I liked my Shepard's ending. Still the best game I have EVER played and I am on my second play thru. I can only assume you are all young because you are acting like spoiled little brats!

That awkward moment when someone who cannot spell, calls you a spoiled little brat.

Archereon wrote...

GracefulChicken wrote...

No kidding. What baffles me the most is that Bioware clearly has talented writers on their staff, and intelligent enough people to put all this stuff together... so the fact that someone thought this was a good idea, and no one spoke up, is amazing to me. Oversight on a multimillion dollar project can't be that horrible, can it? 

That said, I'd happily buy a DLC rectifying the endings just because I know the incredible stuff Bioware is capable of putting out. But after this, it's going to be a challenge to have faith in the fact that they actually will.

Maybe Mac Walters is depressed or something, and decided "The world is horrible, ME3 must end horribly." That's how End of Evangelion happened after all.

Alternatively, they did this intentionally to create a market for DLC. I wouldn't put it above EA, nor BioWare these days.

On another hand, maybe the writers realized that EA would do everything in their power to milk this game, and decided to make endings that would kill the franchise to prevent EA from making them churn out a ****ty ME shovelware game every year.

I highly doubt a writer would destroy his own piece of art.

Video game writers aren't artists (since video games are not art, due to the fact that the industry cares about nothing besides profit), but they sometimes think like them, and artists have sabatoged serial works to prevent them from becoming a franchise zombie.

Modifié par Archereon, 10 mars 2012 - 04:11 .

[scoville.unit]

Kitten Tactics wrote...

I don't even have the desire to play ANYTHING anymore. Mass Effect 3's ending seems to (for now at least) have soured me on the hobby all together. And they were so close. If the game had ended with Shepard and Anderson, I'd be on my 2nd or 3rd playthrough right now.

This is where I am at right now as well. I doubt it will be permenant - but I don't have the desire to play anything.

[riverandme2]

Lots of pissed off people... I don't get it. The endings r different. They just aren't what you wanted. Everyone should voice there opinion, and I just voiced mine. If you don't like the game, take it back and get a game that better suits your needs... if there is one. If you aren't gonna play it anymore then get on with it already!

[Lexagg]

riverandme2 wrote...

Wow! Y'all r pretty upset! What's wrong? Don't appreciate the picture the artist painted? I got an idea, why don't you all band together, pool your funds and ideas, and create your own game! Put this energy to good use! As far as I'm concerned, I liked my Shepard's ending. Still the best game I have EVER played and I am on my second play thru. I can only assume you are all young because you are acting like spoiled little brats!

I can only assume you didn't read any of the actual concerns about ending, and you didn't actually care about Mass Effect series. I can also assume you haven't graduated from high school yet, since you are using words like "y'all", "r" and "thru".

[realpokerjedi]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

The probability of this to happen is very very low. Let's face it people.

1) The majority of the people who hate the endings are not the majority of the ME3 gamers but the majority of the ME fans. It's a huge point for EA. Not for Bioware, they think about us but they cant do anything right now.

2) EA want money. They dont care about "betray" us. Bioware cant do anything about the ending if EA dont agree.

3) If the next DLC are a success for EA (Omega DLC is the next) they will not give a **** about the "EndinGate".

4) If the next DLC are a fail they going to make a another one (maybe Omega DLC is not alone right now) and see what happens.

5) At some point, with people from Bioware who report to EA the "EndinGate" in the community, with a fail for the DLC, maybe EA will try to listen to us. Again the probability of this is very low.


So :

- Don't buy any DLC.
- Don't buy any EA games or Bioware games.
- Don't play to ME123 anymore (they see it).
- Don't stop to complain about the endings.

This are the only weapons we have in this fight ! If we stand together we can win !

If you remove yourself from the Bioware franchise and don't buy any DLC, what will you win (other than diminishing Bioware)?

You gain not being trolled by Bioware again.
Finding and supporting other developers whom you enjoy more and offer limited to no let down.
True you may not change anything as far as the company but you can pull them out of your life all together.
That is a big victory without a doubt.

The next game I will get is Risen 2, I promise you it will have a better ending than this.

Modifié par realpokerjedi, 10 mars 2012 - 04:12 .

[AlCord]

Drake_1000 wrote...

DerNix wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

Militarized wrote...

Omega? Please tell me you're joking.

We will see. For me its obvious.
Omega was the best area in ME2 and its not hard for Bioware to make a ME3 DLC about it.

It just doesn't make sense. Aria told you that she will take back Omega after the battle. Assuming the surprise attack on the citadel by the reapers and the following destruction there is no Aria anymore...

Edit: and don't forget there are no mass relays. It will take decades to go from Sol system to Omega. For Aria no problem but for the mercenaries. And there are barely fuel depots because the reapers destroyed them. No that's illogical.

I dont remember if Aria tell you "retake Omega after the Reaper's Battle" but with a DLC Bioware can make a story like "we must take back Omega because of the evil plan Cerberus is about to do there".

Anyway all this Omega DLC stuff is obvious for me, i can understand other people dont think the same, but there is no way Bioware dont make at least one DLC right now. And i dont buy it, i want a Ending DLC.

Right choice. I will do the same. If there is no logical ending DLC conclusion I won't buy any DLC. And before I will pay for a "conlcusion DLC" I will read previews. I have enough of BW / EA's "promises".

[jb1983]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

The probability of this to happen is very very low. Let's face it people.

1) The majority of the people who hate the endings are not the majority of the ME3 gamers but the majority of the ME fans. It's a huge point for EA. Not for Bioware, they think about us but they cant do anything right now.

2) EA want money. They dont care about "betray" us. Bioware cant do anything about the ending if EA dont agree.

3) If the next DLC are a success for EA (Omega DLC is the next) they will not give a **** about the "EndinGate".

4) If the next DLC are a fail they going to make a another one (maybe Omega DLC is not alone right now) and see what happens.

5) At some point, with people from Bioware who report to EA the "EndinGate" in the community, with a fail for the DLC, maybe EA will try to listen to us. Again the probability of this is very low.


So :

- Don't buy any DLC.
- Don't buy any EA games or Bioware games.
- Don't play to ME123 anymore (they see it).
- Don't stop to complain about the endings.

This are the only weapons we have in this fight ! If we stand together we can win !

If you remove yourself from the Bioware franchise and don't buy any DLC, what will you win (other than diminishing Bioware)?

If the DLC doesn't fix the problem, then what's the worth in Bioware? That's the whole question that I have on the issue. 

And this is coming from someone who defended their ending to DA2 - after all, it wasn't the end of a trilogy, it was just the end of a character story, and it was something that could be dealt with in future DLC (still hasn't happened). At the same time, in the back of my mind, I worried they'd do this to ME3, and then they did. 

If that is how Bioware is going to treat their games, creating ambiguious, post-modern "endings" to games, then I can't diminish Bioware anymore than they've already diminished themselves. And I say this as someone who was a loyal fan. They have talented writers, but they need to do what they do best - go with cliche, and do it very, very, very well rather than trying to become some trailblazer in the realm of writing. Leave that to novelists and screenplays. 

[jb1983]

riverandme2 wrote...

Lots of pissed off people... I don't get it. The endings r different. They just aren't what you wanted. Everyone should voice there opinion, and I just voiced mine. If you don't like the game, take it back and get a game that better suits your needs... if there is one. If you aren't gonna play it anymore then get on with it already!

Because we are legion and you cannot possibly comprehend our purpose.