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[hawat333]

Yeah, Omega will be probably the next one, it was a major cut content that's already established (I mean the initiation of the subplot), so it will come.
Meanwhile pretend that Normandy crashed on Earth.

I'd be interested to see what Drew would have came up with for the ending. But I liked the ednings (apart from the Normandy scene, that didn't really fall together), but it was unexpected, something I approved of.

[Drake_1000]

humes spork wrote...

To the people saying they'd buy ending DLC: why? All you're doing is encouraging EA and BW to make unethical marketing and sales decisions. You're enabling the very problem this is indicative of, and helping to push the industry further down the slippery microtransaction slope personified no better than Bobby Kotick's comments regarding monetizing cutscenes.

Without mincing words, the message you're sending is "we'll punish you for screwing over the fans by giving you more money!". For all the bluster, pomp and circumstance associated with talking with your wallet, paying for ending DLC -- or even suggesting you would -- is the exact opposite message you should be conveying as a fan and a gamer.

Do yourself, the community, the fans and the industry a favor through tough love: free ending DLC or not a damn thing.

I cant speak for others but for me its pretty easy to understand : i have never pre-order a game. With ME3 its the first and the last, if i knew the ending will be like that i dont buy it. Because what make ME a great game its your choices are important, with a ending like that ME123 become useless. So i want a DLC to fix that, i know its the only way for me to forgive what Bioware/EA have done and if they dont understand that im done with them.

The "Free Ending DLC" thing its pointless, i want something who end Mass Effect with quality and voice actors of Shepard and his team, not something made in two hours by the kid who bring coffee to the Lead Writer.

Modifié par Drake_1000, 10 mars 2012 - 05:43 .

[MattFini]

Kitten Tactics wrote...

If they release hundreds of dollars worth of DLC for this game:

- If one of those DLCs is a fixed ending, I will happily forget all of this and buy the rest.
- If none of those DLCs are a fixed ending, I will not touch the series ever again

Those are the only two options I give them with regards to my money. They gave me three choices, I'm giving them two.

Hahahah, perfect.  I agree.

[Legendaryred]

Definitely not buying an "Omega" DLC, they're boned anyway according to the endings, plus it's a ****hole.

[humes spork]

Gigerstreak wrote...

if I spent 300 dollars in a story, you bet I'll pay 10 to make me not hate it.

I'm right there. I bought all three games, their respective DLC, merchandise, comics, novels -- you name it. Hell, I'm already mad enough about the Javik DLC (I agree wholeheartedly it's sufficiently plot-critical to have either been Alliance Network free DLC or in the game from the beginning), and only got it because I had Gamestop store credit that would have just expired if I hadn't, and didn't pay out of pocket. There's no way I'm paying one more red cent to have something that should have been in there from the onset or given to players for free.

Especially for the fact that paying at this point is just confirming the implication and possibility set forth by certain industry figureheads that publishers and developers can withhold content like cutscenes and gamers will readily pay additional for it. This whole situation, if it turns into paid-DLC is little different than if Shepard had just ran into the beam of light on Earth then the game shut down with a dialog window that said "interested in seeing more? Buy our ending DLC!".

[Sashimi_taco]

I see no point at all in doing any DLC where i go and save someone or something else. There just isn't any reason to do anything extra if the end result is exactly the same. Omega cannot even support itself without the mas relays. It has no way to grow food or anything.

[Dasher1010]

In DAO your Grey Warden dies without Morrigan's ritual. You could still play Awakening and Witch Hunt. The odds of a post-game expansion are incredibly high since that's what fans want which = money. The devs know that most people who buy DLC are the hardcore fans, therefore a post-campaign expansion is incredibly likely.

[The BS Police]

Sorry to say this but as much as great as the game overall was the ending was a huge slap in the face for me as a fan of this series. The ending is not only riddled with alot of plotholes, but it completely takes every single decision you made in the series and throw's it out the window.

I feel Bioware owes it to us fan's to give us a better ending that this, because it as great as the game is overall, that ending make's it pointless to do more than one playthrough.

[eye basher]

wasting money on an ending dlc there's no need to fix something that doesn't need fixing just because a bunch of self entitled fanatics want it.

[GBGriffin]

eye basher wrote...

wasting money on an ending dlc there's no need to fix something that doesn't need fixing just because a bunch of self entitled fanatics want it.

So, what you're saying is, after remove the insulting and condescending part of your post: no, you won't buy it.

Modifié par GBGriffin, 10 mars 2012 - 05:53 .

[HeavenStar]

humes spork wrote...

Gigerstreak wrote...

if I spent 300 dollars in a story, you bet I'll pay 10 to make me not hate it.

I'm right there. I bought all three games, their respective DLC, merchandise, comics, novels -- you name it. Hell, I'm already mad enough about the Javik DLC (I agree wholeheartedly it's sufficiently plot-critical to have either been Alliance Network free DLC or in the game from the beginning), and only got it because I had Gamestop store credit that would have just expired if I hadn't, and didn't pay out of pocket. There's no way I'm paying one more red cent to have something that should have been in there from the onset or given to players for free.

Especially for the fact that paying at this point is just confirming the implication and possibility set forth by certain industry figureheads that publishers and developers can withhold content like cutscenes and gamers will readily pay additional for it. This whole situation, if it turns into paid-DLC is little different than if Shepard had just ran into the beam of light on Earth then the game shut down with a dialog window that said "interested in seeing more? Buy our ending DLC!".

I agree that the fixed ending should be free. In practice, however, I think it is unlikely that EA and/or Bioware will spend more time working on a game they already sold, unless they get more money from this. The customers may be very disappointed, but the money is already in their hands.

[mibr78]

And this BS about you can continue the game by going backwards to the point BEFORE you attack the Cerberus base, I mean what the hell is that about.. I can´t have my " we beat ém and survived drink with Garrus or hook up with my "love interest" and live happily everafter, (if you want that is) or just overall see how everyone is doing after the reapers defeat..

[Texhnolyze101]

I have not played ME3 since i beat it and that was 2 days ago so unless they make a dlc to fix the endings i don't care about anything else they have to say till such a thing happens.

[humes spork]

Drake_1000 wrote...

The "Free Ending DLC" thing its pointless, i want something who end Mass Effect with quality and voice actors of Shepard and his team, not something made in two hours by the kid who bring coffee to the Lead Writer.

No, it's really not. EA, in particular in conjunction with BW, has a pretty good thing going with their online pass model. Look at the online pass support for the Battlefield series and Cerberus network. It's still an online pass, but gamers still get a ton of content through it that's generally pretty good. The Cerberus network got gamers Zaeed, firewalker, the Normandy crash site, some weapons and armor, and (for PS3 players) genesis. It would be nothing to push fixed ending DLC through the Alliance network.

And, if you think free DLC is by definition poor quality, look at Valve. Right there's your facial proof you're incorrect in that assumption.

[Vasparian]

Any DLC that taks place during the main game of ME3 is useless. It doesn't change the crappy ending. If they made DLC that made the crappy endings better... I doubt I would buy it. It would just be rewarding Bioware for screwing ME fans over like they did.

[Hellknites]

And still they say nothing.

[Drake_1000]

humes spork wrote...

Drake_1000 wrote...

The "Free Ending DLC" thing its pointless, i want something who end Mass Effect with quality and voice actors of Shepard and his team, not something made in two hours by the kid who bring coffee to the Lead Writer.

No, it's really not. EA, in particular in conjunction with BW, has a pretty good thing going with their online pass model. Look at the online pass support for the Battlefield series and Cerberus network. It's still an online pass, but gamers still get a ton of content through it that's generally pretty good. The Cerberus network got gamers Zaeed, firewalker, the Normandy crash site, some weapons and armor, and (for PS3 players) genesis. It would be nothing to push fixed ending DLC through the Alliance network.

And, if you think free DLC is by definition poor quality, look at Valve. Right there's your facial proof you're incorrect in that assumption.

You know i agree completly with you and if this happen i will be the happiest man on earth but i havent no more faith in EA right now to believe they will make a free Ending DLC (if they make it) and i really want some epic closure for ME like they say it will be, even if i have to buy it.

[Nilofeliu]

I was just wondering what I would do if I knew from the start the ending. Considering that the reapers cannot locate the Normandy, I would just do something like the Protheans did on Ilos. Take as many ny friends/people I could and go to a very remote system, and wait there until the harvesting was done. I could make many trips over and over picking up people from all species to help create a new galaxy one it was over. Why bother fighting if it's useless anyway? As Sheppard said in the very first scene, it's about survival of the species..

[humes spork]

HeavenStar wrote...

I agree that the fixed ending should be free. In practice, however, I think it is unlikely that EA and/or Bioware will spend more time working on a game they already sold, unless they get more money from this. The customers may be very disappointed, but the money is already in their hands.

For a lot of gamers, myself included, the question is whether we buy future content and releases. I can speak for myself when I say unless the endings are raised to the standard of quality set by everything but the last five minutes of a ME3 playthrough, at the very least I will not be buying additional ME3 content. Hell I may extend that to buying BioWare products at all, especially in light of the DA2 debacle. And, from this point forward I will be even more selective patronizing EA than I already was one way or the other.

So, I can only speak for myself as one gamer but relevant to EA's revenue stream it comes down to this. Either they spot me a $10-15 ending DLC to restore my goodwill as a consumer or they simply don't get the...what? $50-60 bare minimum for future ME3 content releases? Even lowballing it for the sake of argument, that's potentially $50 in lost revenue from me as an individual consumer.

Extrapolating that, ME3 sold 800,000 copies on release day; if (again, lowballing for the sake of argument) 10% of those purchasers make the same decision I laid out here, that's $4 million in potential lost revenue. Just to get a sense of scale here, assuming that 800,000 people each paid $70 apiece (given higher game prices in the European market and the combination of CE and SE sales, that's a fair ballpark value), ME3 grossed in the neighborhood of $56 million. Looking back at that $4M value up there, that's 7% of what the game grossed in potentially-lost revenue. That's a buttload of cash, comparatively, and the kicker is that for the sake of argument I lowballed each and every one of those figures, providing an unrealistically charitable portrait towards EA's profitability.

That's an immediate consequence, forget about future decisions to patronize these companies again.

Modifié par humes spork, 10 mars 2012 - 06:18 .

[Texhnolyze101]

There is no reason to buy dlc for ME3 period as the endings make doing so pointless because it will change NOTHING.

[Akal Ashata Alis]

Hellknites wrote...

And still they say nothing.

Welll, it -is- Saturday, and most folks do have Saturday off. The ME staffers (the main ones) have probably worked very hard to this point and need time off - the ending not withstanding, the -rest- of the game was awesome, and alot of hard work.

I figure as much as I would like to see the ending fixed, they could use some rest and a weekend off.

AAA

[Manou1]

scoville.unit wrote...

Kitten Tactics wrote...

I don't even have the desire to play ANYTHING anymore. Mass Effect 3's ending seems to (for now at least) have soured me on the hobby all together. And they were so close. If the game had ended with Shepard and Anderson, I'd be on my 2nd or 3rd playthrough right now.

This is where I am at right now as well. I doubt it will be permenant - but I don't have the desire to play anything.

Same here. Right now I just can't play anything.. way to go BW!

[Azorgamer]

Personally I think the game was awesome...until the ending. The sad thing is, I've been on Bioware's side through all the criticism before the game came out - until I heard about the endings. But even then I held out hope...and was just left with confusion at the end.

That's the big difference with this game, Mass Effect 1, Shepard seems to be dead but rises up from the rubble and survives - I literally raised my two fists in the air and yelled, "YES!!!", that actually happened. I felt triumph and joy at the end of ME 1.

In ME2, I did all the loyalty quests, got as prepared as possible for the ending, and watched as my Shepard jumped across the chasm at the end and grabbed onto the Normandy, for a moment I wasn't sure that he would make it but one of his squadmates pulled him up...again felt triumph and joy.

In ME3, I expected sorrow, the death of Mordin left me floored, Thane blew me away - I felt real emotion at his death, Legion's sacrifice was epic, and millions were dying throughout the game, like I said - I expected death and sorrow. But I spent hours getting all the races together, I did the side missions, scanned planets, ran away from Reapers ships to keep scanning those planets, got a huge fleet ready to save the galaxy and my Shepard died. And you know what - he shouldn't have died, I worked hard enough that he should have survived.

BUT THAT BEING SAID, I would have accepted that my Shepard died, really I would have if the rest of the ending wasn't so confusing. How did Javik and Liara get back on the ship?!?! Javik wanted revenge against the Reapers, that's all he talked about and Liara was my Shepard's love interest, and she knew the whole galaxy was in danger if we didn't stop the Reapers, thus - they would have never, never, never gone back to the ship, if they survived the Reaper attack they would have gone up to the Citadel to back up Shepard. The rest of your crew, might not have been on the final assault with you, but they were all on the ground, Garrus was leading a group of Turians, James was leading a group of soldiers, Kaidan was also down there and so was EDI and Tali, how in the world did they all get back on the ship. Only 40% of the landing party survived, somehow the Normandy just picked everyone up and they all kept their fingers crossed that Shepard would make it and stop the Reapers?!?!

And then the Normandy landing on another planet was just...actually I don't have words. And the game just ended without any epilogue, I have no idea what happened and honestly we deserve to know - how did the different races fare after the war ended. I saved the Geth and Quarians but chose the Destroy Reapers option - what happened to the Quarians when the Geth all died? I chose to give the fake cure to the Krogans, what happened to them? Did Palavan and Thessia survive at all? And now you have all these armies around Earth, sure a lot of people and aliens died but you still have a bunch that survived - is Earth a new "Citadel" with tons of different aliens on it (which would be cool, by the way)? Or when the kid says that Destroying the Reapers will also destroy a lot of our technology, does that mean that all the ships in space were destroyed also? Maybe the ships survived, but I'll never know - it's honestly all these questions that leave me filled with confusion.

And that is what saddens me about ME3, I had joy and triumph at the end of ME1 and ME2, I just have questions and confusion at the end of ME3. That's why I'm disappointed, it's the last game of the trilogy so I'll never find out the answer to these questions.

So yes, I hope they make an ending DLC that gives us triumph, joy and ANSWERS, especially answers. Because overall, ME3, was awesome, it deserves an awesome ending. Sorry for the wall of text, I just had to get this all out of me.

[DrDetective]

I feel like people aren't mad enough about the abrupt change in tone and message of the last few minutes. Undoubtedly, the worst part is the lack of connection to the rest of the series when it comes to decisions made over the course of the games, but the whole "robots be evil" thing is painful to witness, too.

[DrowNoble]

I agree with people in this and other threads have said. It's not that the ending wasn't Warm N Fuzzy, it's that it made no sense and invalidated all our previous decisions.

Sure I can continue to play after I "win" yet here it makes no sense to do so. In my ending, Shephard was badly hurt but alive buried in rubble, no mass relays and the Normandy destroyed (again).

Liara and Garrus (my endgame squadmates) were just with me in the tank and running to the beam. Then we get hit, I stumble inside do the Anderson Ending and ... they are on the Normany FTL driving to Somewhere and crash land Somewhere. This didn't make any sense.

So I saved the Rachni Queen in ME1. An Asari in ME2 implied they would fight by my side. ME3 comes along and all that meant was I get +X rating points in ME3? So if I killed her off in ME1 I'd just lose a few points is all?

I had a war rating of over 5200, after modified by readiness at 83% with all the races together. WHY did I get such a terrible ending? Up until I did that run down the trench to get to the beam I would of said this trilogy rivals Star Wars. Now after an ending like this I may not even import my other 3 saves to play again.