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[Super.Sid]

Hold on, I read this on another thread, not sure it is reliable

FsDxRAGE_v2 wrote...

I don't feel like looking through all of the pages to see if this was posted here, but here we go. (this will psychologically make me feel better)
http://img710.images...boyherewego.jpg

Modifié par Super.Sid, 10 mars 2012 - 06:14 .

[movieguyabw]

I feel like it's 3. I'm not going to default to the whole "corporations are evil and only want our money" mentality just yet. And I seriously doubt this is due to time constraints. There was supposedly a different ending in the works for a while, involving dark matter, but it was changed to this.

I think whoever was writing this bit wanted to be "deep" and felt that these three choices would help players define what is most important to their characters.

But it failed. For many different reasons.

[noobcannon]

rumor is getting out that they changed the endings pretty close to release. i wonder how true that is?

[noobcannon]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

I definitely think Bioware cares. Hopefully. They've paid attention before. I love this game. Absolutely. I just hate how rushed they did them. Someone on Twitter thought we were literally trying to petition Bioware to change the ending. Ironically, he hasn't played the game, and really buys into the multiple endings shtick. Boy, once he sees them...

aggreed i've seen so many people try and defend the game, but they admit they haven't beaten it yet. i was one of them.....

[Gigamantis]

My guess is that they're happy the game is a massive critical and consumer success, and they were well aware that SOME people would be upset at how the game ended.

You people overestimate the impact your little forum jabs have on the world and the industry. If you're not happy with something as subjective as their decision on how to end THEIR game universe chances are good that nobody cares.

Modifié par Gigamantis, 10 mars 2012 - 06:26 .

[BewareofCrisps]

Gigamantis wrote...

My guess is that they're happy the game is a massive critical and consumer success, and they were well aware that SOME people would be upset at how the game ended.

You people overestimate the impact your little forum jabs have on the world and the industry. If you're not happy with something as subjective as their decision on how to end THEIR game universe chances are good that nobody cares.

They're probably relieved that EA slipped the critics enough money to stop them ripping the writing staff a new one.

[DeinonSlayer]

4, bleeding over into 3, then dropping to 2 as sales figures catch up.

[Gigamantis]

BewareofCrisps wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

My guess is that they're happy the game is a massive critical and consumer success, and they were well aware that SOME people would be upset at how the game ended.

You people overestimate the impact your little forum jabs have on the world and the industry. If you're not happy with something as subjective as their decision on how to end THEIR game universe chances are good that nobody cares.

They're probably relieved that EA slipped the critics enough money to stop them ripping the writing staff a new one.

Yep, it's not that you're being a petulent child and overreacting to something that you don't agree with.  It's that the whole industry is plotting against you.  You're not going to have an easy life. 

[BewareofCrisps]

IMO it was probably 2. Something about one of Jarret Lee's comments stuck with me. He said that he was a little sad that people were saying that the devs were lazy, as they had 'missed holidays' and other arrangements to get the game finished. This to me implies that EA set the development deadline and BioWare didn't have enough time to add everything they wanted. This doesn't justify the endings, but it goes a long way in explaining why some parts of the game seem unfinished.
Yet another reason why EA are akin to parasites.

Modifié par BewareofCrisps, 10 mars 2012 - 06:40 .

[I_Jedi]

Four

[Dark_Caduceus]

Probably and mix of three and four, I don't think resources were a problem for the ending given how cinematic and relatively polished the rest of the game was and I commend them for their efforts. I personally despise all the endings. I find the entire melancholy, Joycean Epiphany ending theme to be over used and quite boring but I don't fault the writers for a moment, they had an artistic vision and they expressed it as such, and that's respectable, no one can argue that the team didn't put 110% in the game, and it shows.

They're done now for the most part, paycheck in hand. So do they care much? No, of course not. But they're probably a little upset that their endings are cast with such scorn by the fans.

[Lee T]

I'm guessing they're pretty much disconnected from the masses so I'm not sure the complaints really reach them the way we might think it could. If they had a better story and it was somehow circumvented by devellopment and or marketing necessities they are probably a lot more mad at their professional environment than to the public reaction.

From my personnal experience working alongside (not one myself) boardgame designers, P&P RPGs designers, and miniature game designers, they quickly learn to grow a carapace and pretty much ignore/disregard (and in the work case feel contempt for) forum & other social network comments. I suppose the same goes in the video game industry.

BioJaegar wrote...

I think people on this forum need to get ahold of their **** and stop complaining.

This is the Bioware community forum. It's the only Internet place where people playing Bioware games can come and criticize, praise, analyse, applaud the ups and downs and the nuts and bolts of the game with the slimest chance that those comments might reach the very people who are part of making them.

There's nothing wrong in coming here and praising what you liked in the hope Bioware notices and continue including what you liked in future games, there's nothing in coming here and criticize what you didn't like in the hope Bioware notices and imprive what you didn't like in future game.

If you only want to read about praise and applause you'll have to create your own forum.

Modifié par Lee T, 10 mars 2012 - 06:51 .

[Icemix]

BewareofCrisps wrote...

IMO it was probably 2. Something about one of Jarret Lee's comments stuck with me. He said that he was a little sad that people were saying that the devs were lazy, as they had 'missed holidays' and other arrangements to get the game finished. This to me implies that EA set their deadline and they didn't have enough time to add everything they wanted.
Yet another reason why EA are akin to parasites.

Sure they had a deadline, but this was supposed to be the ending to an amazing story. How did  no one from the people who led the project to the final testers that have seen the ending and didn't go "What the **** is this?". They sure had time to model that Jessica Chobot, but no time to write a half decent ending? I mean come on. I hope they are reading this and thinking of a way to fix it, because if not, they single-handedly managed to ruin all 3 games in less than 20 minutes for more than 80% of the fanbase.

[The Big Nothing]

Omega Riddler wrote...

I think they are happy with the story they created and they don't give a crap if people didn't like it because the people who like it are the people they should care about

Then they care about a single digit demographic.

[Elsightos]

moneycashgeorge wrote...

Either they are feeling....

1. Dissapointed that the fans weren't satisfied with their vision for the end of the series

2. Regretful that they didn't have the time/resources/control to make the ending that they actually wanted

3. Angry at the fans for not appreciating their artistic vision. Angry because we don't have the right to reject their writing or demand a change.

4. Happy that they are getting a nice big pay-check and great reviews from critics. Fan reaction doesn't really matter.

Which do you think?

5. Painful as they emerged +1 year from the Mass Effect cave only to be hearded and whipped into the SWTOR cave by the EA cowboy whos mad cause his 1.2 schedule is already running late.

[Farbautisonn]

Gigamantis wrote...  You're not going to have an easy life. 

-In my experience, those with "easy lives" aren't worth my time. Mostly because those that have easy lives usually don't know precisely how easy they have it.

[Ronin1325]

DoctorEss wrote...

sirmalek78 wrote...

Heh.... good luck on that. Unless Im missing something I have yet to see any retail version game have the final end of the game completely changed with a DLC or patch. It sorta breaks the game for better or worse the endings are what they are.

I dont think the endings are all that terrible but like said earlier they could have been much better still Im enjoying multiplayer for now that isnt COD or Battlefield till Borderlands comes out.

Prince of Persia.

"Epilogue Pack".

For the record, my vote is 4.

If the game had sold really poorly, or if it starts receiving high amounts of returns, we might see some action on these things.  As it stands, it made money, so the only thing I'm sure they're concerning themselves with is making more DLC to make more money.  Fans are of lower importance than cranking out those microtransactions.

And let's not forget the biggie of Fallout 3. The "Broken Steel" expansion was made primarily because of fan dissapointment at the ending. And it made the game's story more logical & better.

[Xarathox]

sirmalek78 wrote...

Heh.... good luck on that. Unless Im missing something I have yet to see any retail version game have the final end of the game completely changed with a DLC or patch. It sorta breaks the game for better or worse the endings are what they are.

I dont think the endings are all that terrible but like said earlier they could have been much better still Im enjoying multiplayer for now that isnt COD or Battlefield till Borderlands comes out.

Fallout 3 did.

[JamesYHT]

4. what a shame...this is how the world work

[JamesYHT]

[quote]Dizzy473 wrote...


The difference being they got paid to end up feeling this way, whereas I paid to end up feeling this way.[/quot


precisely!!!

[lilidae]

What should I say?
It's 4. I'm disappointed and I feel like Bioware slapped me in the face.

[Il Divo]

Urdnot Grim wrote...

Gigamantis wrote...

You people overestimate the impact your little forum jabs have on the world and the industry. If you're not happy with something as subjective as their decision on how to end THEIR game universe chances are good that nobody cares.

Yeah, they definitely said before that the endings would make some people very angry. This is probably due to the reactions they got from the leaked script. It's also not entirely - well, for alot of us - about how they ended the game so much as what was sold re: player choice, which in essence has no significant role on how the game ends whatsoever. That's what people are upset about for the most part. 

Honestly, the leaked script was substantially better than what we got.