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[Shwiggliness]

Well, I've been thinking about it. This only works in the Control ending... but there's tons of fleets stranded on Earth, right?

If they all worked together using the Relay that sent Shepard to the citadel, as well as various Reaper Tech and Asari tech (Matriach Athetya mentions asari could build their own relays) using their massive work force they could theoretically rebuild a few relays to begin with. (The crucible got built incredibly fast, think of that.) It would take a few years, or generations, but theoretically they could re-build the galaxy.

As for Normandy crew, we know nothing about what planet they landed on. For all we know, it could have a colony or something, and they might be able to contact Alliance, and could be rescued in a few months.


Okay, I know all of that is blind denial and optimism, but DAMMNIT it's the only way my mind is at peace.

[Superninfreak]

Theoretically it could happen, but the game told us it didn't.

In the epilogue with the old man and the boy, they comment on how "someday" they'll be able to explore space. This seems to happen generations after Shepard and space travel is still just a fantasy.

Modifié par Superninfreak, 10 mars 2012 - 04:29 .

[Der Estr Bune]

Would rebuilding the Sol relay even get them anywhere? They need a relay at wherever they arrive, don't they?

[Shwiggliness]

Superninfreak wrote...

Theoretically it could happen, but the game told us it didn't.

In the epilogue with the old man and the boy, they comment on how "someday" they'll be able to explore space. This seems to happen generations after Shepard and space travel is still just a fantasy.

WAIT WHAT?

I never actually paid attention to that kid. my Mind was still to "WHAT" to pay attention

So, years after, or generations or whatever things still haven't been fixed? What the ****? how is that an ending?

[Bendok]

Everyone would more likely die out from starvation, disease, etc.

Think of all the aliens stranded in Sol.

The Krogan genophage is cured but now they are stranded on a dead radioactive rock. They will die out.

Maybe they can build a relay eventually but the problem is relays link together, without being able to communicate with the other side, coordination could not happen, nor could they travel that far in a realistic amount of time to setup a connecting relay.

This is the stone ages again. These people have been reliant on this tech for their entire lives. They are screwed.

[Shwiggliness]

....I just want to believe the mass effect universe can still be saved :C

Modifié par Shwiggliness, 10 mars 2012 - 04:33 .

[Adamantium93]

Superninfreak wrote...

Theoretically it could happen, but the game told us it didn't.

In the epilogue with the old man and the boy, they comment on how "someday" they'll be able to explore space. This seems to happen generations after Shepard and space travel is still just a fantasy.

Well, there are ways to rationalize that.

1. The ME universe is a story. It never actually existed, it was created as a story for a little kid.
2. He means that the kid can't go YET, but maybe when he's grown up he will.

[Starspiral]

No, because the whole Solar System would have been vapourised - including Earth and the alien fleet.

The reason for this is found in the "Arrival" DLC, it is stated there that the destruction of a Mass Relay causes an explosion equal to a supernova - totally destroying the system (and probably the star as well).

This is why so many people are upset by the ending - you cannot win, you cannot "take Earth back".... all you can do is destroy all life within supernova range of a Mass Relay.

[Tamcia]

The old guy/kid is on the planet Normandy crash landed....

Mass Relays = gone, = no galaxy left due to travel distances = back to stoneage.

Most forces are near earth (whats left) - thats 99% of military force. For Krogan - probably all males, so the race DIES, despite the cure for genophage. Quarians - get their homeworld, except THEY WILL NEVER SEE IT AGAIN.

Why the hell is Normandy on some random relay? Why is my LI who was my squad-mate on the planet aboard it? Why did they leave the battle on sol system in the first place!? How did TIM get on Citadel!?


Arrival DLC? Destroy mass relay = destroy ALL life in that system. Guess what - you KILLED all life yourself - all planets with mass relays are dead and all major planets had them, only small colonies with populations taht are dead now were unharmed. 

This can't be the ending - the only chance is that Sheppard gets knocked out.

Modifié par Tamcia, 10 mars 2012 - 04:43 .

[Dragoni89]

Its called space magic, everyone obviously

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Starspiral wrote...

No, because the whole Solar System would have been vapourised - including Earth and the alien fleet.

The reason for this is found in the "Arrival" DLC, it is stated there that the destruction of a Mass Relay causes an explosion equal to a supernova - totally destroying the system (and probably the star as well).

This is why so many people are upset by the ending - you cannot win, you cannot "take Earth back".... all you can do is destroy all life within supernova range of a Mass Relay.

The way the Mass Relays explode in the ending is not like the violent destruction of Arrival's.

[CareerKnight]

While they may be able to build a relay in the sol system they would still need to travel conventionally somewhere else to build another relay to be able to quick jump between the two.

As for the epilogue, pretty sure it was a when your older thing as a pose to no longer having space flight capabilities.

As for everyone dieing when the relays exploded, pretty sure this was a bit of a oversight on Biowares part. I think the explosions of energy we saw coming from the relays where only suppose to be affecting your choice throughout the galaxy. Maybe they will later explain it as the energy from the explosion being changed so it only destroyed machines/took control of the reapers/merged organics and artificial hence why we saw it traveling farther than the immediate star system it was in. Compared to organics and synthetics creating a new combined dna, this is a lot more plausible.

[Paulinius]

Ghost Rider LSOV wrote...

Starspiral wrote...

No, because the whole Solar System would have been vapourised - including Earth and the alien fleet.

The reason for this is found in the "Arrival" DLC, it is stated there that the destruction of a Mass Relay causes an explosion equal to a supernova - totally destroying the system (and probably the star as well).

This is why so many people are upset by the ending - you cannot win, you cannot "take Earth back".... all you can do is destroy all life within supernova range of a Mass Relay.

The way the Mass Relays explode in the ending is not like the violent destruction of Arrival's.

So why was Joker trying to frantically escape the shockwave?

[Legendaryred]

Well, lets consider some things first. All the alien armies are floating around earth. You have all the scientists of the crucible there too, you have earth there and mars, you also have all the REAPERS floating around dead. So maybe they could reverse engineer the reapers FTL drives? i mean they didn't need the relays to come out of dark space and they got to earth pretty quick. So yes it would've been possible, but the stargazer ending ****ed that option completely by saying "someday" da fuq?

[Manou1]

Adamantium93 wrote...

Superninfreak wrote...

Theoretically it could happen, but the game told us it didn't.

In the epilogue with the old man and the boy, they comment on how "someday" they'll be able to explore space. This seems to happen generations after Shepard and space travel is still just a fantasy.

Well, there are ways to rationalize that.

1. The ME universe is a story. It never actually existed, it was created as a story for a little kid.
2. He means that the kid can't go YET, but maybe when he's grown up he will.

That's it! ME universe never happened.. it was just a story but the real ME series will start when the kid is grown up.

[Extort]

 you see the thing is buddy is... how the hell are you gonna tug the other relay next to a star hundreds of light years away from wherever these asari are

[Adamantium93]

Extort wrote...

 you see the thing is buddy is... how the hell are you gonna tug the other relay next to a star hundreds of light years away from wherever these asari are

Um...Reaper Tech...space magic...Emergency Induction Ports...idk

[samoht_okpoh]

Paulinius wrote...
So why was Joker trying to frantically escape the shockwave?

They were using the relay to travel, if the shockwave hits them, they drop out of the massless corridor into space somewhere. And apparently it damaged the Normandy. I don't get why they were travelling by relay in the first place, though.

[chris fenton]

Shwiggliness wrote...

....I just want to believe the mass effect universe can still be saved :C

It's okay. It's going to be okay.. *Hug.*
It was bad. 
So bad.

[t003]

 The whole series is butchered. The only way to fix is it is if they release a DLC. There are no secret meanings or inplied outscomes, just bad writing.

[Tamcia]

chris fenton wrote...

Shwiggliness wrote...

....I just want to believe the mass effect universe can still be saved :C

It's okay. It's going to be okay.. *Hug.*
It was bad. 
So bad.

I couldn't save the galaxy..... I COULD NOT !!!!!!!!!!!! 

/sits in a corner all sad 

[Luigitornado]

It'll happen eventually.

I won't be surprised if the next trilogy takes place thousands of years after the events in ME3...enough time for the writers to iron out the details and forgo our choices.

[GuiltySource]

Legendaryred wrote...

Well, lets consider some things first. All the alien armies are floating around earth. You have all the scientists of the crucible there too, you have earth there and mars, you also have all the REAPERS floating around dead. So maybe they could reverse engineer the reapers FTL drives? i mean they didn't need the relays to come out of dark space and they got to earth pretty quick. So yes it would've been possible, but the stargazer ending ****ed that option completely by saying "someday" da fuq?

The Reapers only FTL'd it to the next closest relay after the alpha relay. They got to Earth and every other star system by charging through the relays as fast as they could without stopping to enage fleets. This was talked about at the start of the game.

Modifié par GuiltySource, 10 mars 2012 - 05:23 .

[BrotherFluffy]

My biggest problem with all these fleets repairing and rebuilding the relay is the shockwave apparently does serious damage to ships, like it did to the Normandy. So Earth is now a dead rock with ships raining down from orbit. So whoever did survive is damn few.