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[Zhuinden]

I'm so confused with the Ardat-Yakshi Monastery. I thought that according to Samara, there were only 3 Ardat-Yakshi in existence, and all 3 of them were her daughters.

Now we have a monastery full of them, and the codex entry makes even less sense?


I figured that a rare genetic disease was more of a yes/no question (whether you kill your partner by mating them or not), instead of being on a 'spectrum' like autism or something.


Does anyone understand what's going on here?

Modifié par Zhuinden, 10 mars 2012 - 04:59 .

[John Locke N7]

she never said there were only 3.......

[Mr. Big Pimpin]

Apparently Samara had no clue what she was talking about in ME2.

[movieguyabw]

They needed Banshees... but for some reason didn't want to make the actual Asari into them.

[ArcanistLibram]

I remember the monastery being mentioned in Mass Effect 2. I think the turian who owns a grocery store on the Citadel said that he has tea prepared by the tortured blue souls in an Ardat-Yakshi monastery.

[BlackDragonBane]

I don't believe Samara ever said that her daughters were the only 3 Ardant-Yakshi in existence. It's a genetic disease that affects only pure-bloods and given that an Asari lives for 1000 years, why wouldn't there be a full monestary for them. The codex seems to make sense.

Would you want the rest of the galaxy to know that there is a very common genetic disorder that makes Asari melding lethal and could potentially turn a powerful biotic blood-thirsty? I smell cover up from the Asari government.

[Adamantium93]

She never said there were only three. She said that she had three daughters and all three were Ardat-Yakshi. She said that two lived in a monastery devoted to Ardat-Yakshi. This implies that there are more Ardat-Yakshi, even if they are a bit rare (remember, Asari live for milennia. Rarity can still add up to quite a bit if they don't die in forever)

[Zhuinden]

Oh, I see. Then I had it wrong, thanks!

(It's still strange that they have a 'spectrum' for it like the autism disorder, though. I just don't see how that could work.)

[TudorWolf]

There seems to be "degrees" of the condition. As in, some are worse than others. Samara's 3 daughters have the worst variation, completely killing anyone who they mate with.

Less bad cases just seem to hurt the other person, but not kill them. Perhaps this distinction is what Samara meant?

[TheLostGenius]

 In Asari society it is a crime to reveal their existence. Samara lies to you because her code demands that the existence fo the others be hidden.


It's funny how people feel that characters in the game lying should be the truth... 

[DS_Abe]

I think Samara said she had 3 DAUGHTERS, all of them being Ardat-Yakshi. And you can meet both surviving daughters and Samara in the Monastery mission (if Samara survived, and you didn't kill her instead of Morinth - if Morinth survived, you only see a letter she sent to her sisters about their mother's "death on collector ship").

Banshees are made from latent or active Ardat-Yakshi, meaning that any Asari that has that disease in her genes can be transformed (mostly pure-breds).

[Shanook]

John Locke N7 wrote...

she never said there were only 3.......

Agreed. I don't remember her ever saying there were only three Ardat-Yakshi in existence. She said she had three daughters, and all three were Ardat-Yakshi.

Unless someone has proof otherwise? I could be wrong.

[Zhuinden]

I have received this PM from a guy who cannot post in the Spoilers
forums, but still did his best to inform me. Thanks to him for that.

Sence900p wrote...

Hello, as I can't post in the thread I am sending you this PM. You are absolutely correct, the rest of the people in the thread must not have been paying attention.

Quoting Samara, during the conversation which leads to her loyalty mission: "I have three daughters. There are three Ardat-Yakshi in existence today. It is as it sounds."

Here is a link to a video of the scene as proof.

http://youtu.be/DYPbnY1s-Po?t=3m40s

Or at 3:40 in this video

So apparently, I was not as wrong as it would have seemed.

Modifié par Zhuinden, 10 mars 2012 - 08:25 .

[Soundsystem]

I was also very confused by this since Samara tells you that three exist.

[KMYash]

I was confused about the whole thing too. I tried to rationalize that since it was a monastery that most of the people there were just Asaris looking for a religious lifestyle. But then there were soundclips taking about how they took groups of AY to Thessia for trips.

But then if all the banshees are AY and you destroy 'hundreds of them' on the monastery and then still see more.... I guess they really have a lot of them?

????

[lucidfox]

Samara could be wrong. I mean, she's not omniscient. Still, it's baffling that she wouldn't know of the monasteries, considering she goes to one in ME3.

[Slappy Ya Face]

Maybe she lied to keep it a secret.

[KMYash]

...the magic of retcon?

[Zhuinden]

I wonder if she talks of the Ardat-Yakshi completely naturally when she's at the monastery, or if she's surprised they're there. She should be.

[Computron2000]

Retcon to make banshees. Yes its very stupid as now Samara looks like an idiot. A 1000 year old Justicar who has Ardat-Yakshi who is ignorant on what she's talking about.

[John Locke N7]

PlainOLJane2 wrote...

John Locke N7 wrote...

she never said there were only 3.......

Yes she did. I'm doing my last playthrough of ME2 and I just talked to Samara not too long ago. She says something like " There are 3 yardat akshi in existence today...it is as it sounds."

Unless I'm completely crazy.

she also says that its a genetic disorder....

so how the fu is she the only one who has it right now?

and why do her boobs look so out of place on her body.....

[3Minotaur3]

My guess is: there are Samara, her 2 AY daughters and the rest are normal Asari Monks in the monastery... So banshees are vanilla Asari...

[Deztyn]

John Locke N7 wrote...

she never said there were only 3.......

Yes. She did. Explicitly.

This annoyed the heck out of me too. I planned on making a thread about it when I got that quest but wanted to wait until I'd finished the ending so that I wouldn't get spoiled for things. Of course, by the time I got the ending this suddenly seemed less important...

[Vasparian]

Just more proof bioware was pulling stuff out of their butt's when writing this game.