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[DraCZeQQ]

I dont need them to admit anything they can go with their usuall Bioware "lalala can hear ya, guess you are not the true fan we catered for ..." as they did with DA2 as long as they fix it somehow ... if they give me reason to play ME serie again ...

[Immortanius]

No one is perfect, and everyone is prone to make mistakes. If they were to come out, and honest. and truly believe themselves that they made a mistake, not just from our arguments, of course all would be forgiven. I see no qualm or issues in that. I just hope that if said event does happen, they will rectify it and change the ending.

[CorvisRex]

Quietness wrote...

I honestly am curious. If they come out in the coming weeks and admit that yes, they made a mistake, they will do what they can to make it up to the fans. Will you be able to set your frustration aside and refrain from torches?

Personally it would restore some faith i have, and would set aside judgement till i finished the new product. What about everyone else?

Yup.  I would,  I love Bioware, and every game they've made, they have a huge stack of karma built up with me.  If they sadi they miscalculated the fans reaction, and said they were working on it, yes, definitely.  This game was so [insert chosen hyperbole] great, other than the end.  We would need an epilogue that made sense for me to be happy.

So yes.  It would restore most of my faith.

[RazorrX]

I do not *hate* bioware, I am simply not sure this is a company that I will look forward to new games from in the future. I think they have taken a path that I no longer am really that interested in.

I doubt they will ever admit they messed up. I see this going like DA2 did - They will basically state how the fans just are not "deep" enough to really understand how awesome the game really was, etc.

I really think they would have been better served having a different protagonist in each of the games, as they worked really hard to make each one a new entry point to the extent that with this version I felt that the previous two had zero real impact what so ever. If every game was stand alone, I do not think I would have minded as much.

[Lord Nikon 001]

Sure. I'd be so stunned that a company of any sort admitted to screwing something up and would make ammends I'd be too busy reeling from that to attack them.

[sorentoft]

If they fix the ending I can recommend ME3. Until that happens, no.

[cannedcream]

Sure. What they did terrible, and no amount of "Grow up babies" BS posts are going to convince me that what they did was anything else.

BW was wrong for what they did there. Hell, I don't even need an apology for it, I just want it fixed.

[defenestrated]

Nerana wrote...

I don't hate Bioware or the game, just the ending. If they can fix it somehow, no need to say anything, just please fix it, I will actually be able to like the ME series again and I won't feel so cheated...

Listening to your fans and fixing a mistake (whether they think it is one or not) would be a very strong move to begin with. I'd respect that.

I'm with Nerana. It'd be nice if they acknowledged the fan reaction but I'd take the option for a different ending (and no, they can't all wind up in a church!) with or without it. 

[Tamcia]

Admit and Fix - forgiven. If not - pitchforks and torches....

[Trisskit]

Like other people have said, I need no apology. I'd just like another ending.

[Aleka]

It takes a lot for ANYONE to own up their mistakes and admit they have screwed up something. If it is done, they will gain all my respect back, and I will maybe even buy DLC, even though I feel that a better ending should have been included in the game already.
If they just start throwing in DLC without even giving the community any feedback, I will not acknowledge them with my credit card.

Modifié par Aleka, 10 mars 2012 - 06:55 .

[Spectre_Shepard]

yeah, forgive and forget

[hawat333]

Nah, BSN will never do that.

Let's be honest. BSN is fueled by hate. It's like a Reaper. It hates everything and destroys everything, no matter what you do.
Apart from one illogical segment, the endings aren't bad all. But they aren't all sunshine and bunnies, so people hate it. But if it was all sunshine and bunnies, people would hate it because it's all sunshine and bunnies.
Etc. You can see the pattern.

Modifié par hawat333, 10 mars 2012 - 06:57 .

[Ironsandshrew]

BrotherFluffy wrote...

Absolutely. If they admit the endings were bad and fix it, I'll put my torch down and go back to singing ME3's praises. Because honestly, aside from the last ten minutes of the game, this was the best game I have ever played, hands down.

Agreed

If they fix it then I am definitely back on board with Bioware.

[Allison_Lightning]

KOTOR's lack of a third game broke my heart big time- as did the idea that in a female Revan universe she was permanently torn asunder from Carth and the galaxy she saved just to be frozen and die several centuries later. I would download a gigabyte worth of patching just so this empty gaping feeling would go away and I'd have my faith restored in someone for once. In huge ways this is worse simply because I've played with Shepard for longer and I need her to have a way to pull through. Even if it's still three deus ex machina endings and a happy ending by defeating Catalyst/Harbinger- I'd do a finale battle just to get there because she has a place in my heart.

[yamomoto]

if they come out and say "yes we made a huge mistake in some major plots and the ending for mass effect 3 and we will fix it with no charge to our customers" then i will have faith again and play all mass effect yet again

[Quietness]

hawat333 wrote...

Nah, BSN will never do that.

Let's be honest. BSN is fueled by hate. It's like a Reaper. It hates everything and destroys everything, no matter what you do.
Apart from one illogical segment, the endings aren't bad all. But they aren't all sunshine and bunnies, so people hate it. But if it was all sunshine and bunnies, people would hate it because it's all sunshine and bunnies.
Etc. You can see the pattern.

I think you're confused, a lot of us are ok with Shepard dying.

Would i like to see everyone live happily ever after? Sure. 

But death is fine with me as long as its meaningful. Its how they took the character , changed it to its core suddenly and without any lead-in, and expected us to accept it. 

[thesnake777]

Yes if they fix it i will be a loyal fan again.

Modifié par thesnake777, 10 mars 2012 - 07:33 .

[AxisEvolve]

You can't seriously be implying you'd still be angry if they fixed their mistake? If I was Bioware I'd read that and say "It looks like we can't win. Let's do nothing."

Of course I'd be happy if they fixed the ending. It would be a 10/10 game that I would play for years.

Modifié par AxisEvolve, 10 mars 2012 - 07:32 .

[Luvinn]

There would be no reason to be upset with Bioware if they admit they screwed the pooch on the endings and ensured they will offer free DLC (or extremely discounted) to fix the issue. I'll just buy some brain bleach and pretend the original endings never happened. Or some hypnotherapy to forget about it.

This small gesture to the fans will make me want to replay not just ME3, but the whole series over and over again. As it stands, i wont play ME3 again if nothing is fixed.

Modifié par Luvinn, 10 mars 2012 - 07:35 .

[defenestrated]

hawat333 wrote...

Apart from one illogical segment, the endings aren't bad all. But they aren't all sunshine and bunnies, so people hate it. But if it was all sunshine and bunnies, people would hate it because it's all sunshine and bunnies.
Etc. You can see the pattern.

Why does this keep coming up as some binary situation? Depressing as hell or an episode of Teletubbies?

There's a crapload of middle ground between those options and if you're going to bother to have multiple endings, why not explore it a bit? 

Modifié par defenestrated, 10 mars 2012 - 07:35 .

[BobbyTheI]

I can guarantee you one thing: they will never admit the endings are bad. Bottom line is, they still want to sell this game, and if BioWare comes out with a public statement saying, "Sorry, guys, you're right, the endings suck," sales will plummet.

But I could definitely see something like this: "We here at BioWare are proud of the efforts of our writing team, and feel that the conclusion of the Mass Effect trilogy delivers to a vast majority of players. However, we do want to listen to our fans, and due to feedback we have received, we will give ME3 owners the option of downloading our new DLC pack, which will provide an altered epilogue for those who were not satisfied with the original product."

Think that's the best possible scenario you could expect: gives the fans what they were demanding, but still lets BioWare paint them as being "out of the norm" and keep claiming the ending they originally wrote is simply fabulous.

[Mhgasa]

The problem as i see it is that the gaming industry has adopted the politicians way of dealing with critizism. They will rarely admit that they made a mistake and will always try to wiggle their way around straight talk. I dont know why but it seems to be a reacurring theme on many forums associated with game producers.
Im not saying that they should admit to something if they really dont see a problem, but an enlightened dialog would be really nice. Sadly i cant think of an example of this happening.

[ukd]

to be fair. They (by the preorder estimates) totally made their money already. There is no incentive for them to do it much less for free unless they really care about the fact that it seems a lot of people are completely livid about the way things turned out.

[fooknar]

They won't admit to it, they will defend their version of the ending and blame the complaints on a small % of their fan base. In the mean time they will just DLC the hell out of ME3 which will probably all be be based on missions your friends where doing while you were headed to the beam of light, Aria etc.

I blame the writer(s) myself he/she/they should seriously consider (a) new career(s), but chances are they will also defend their reasoning for ignoring much of what happened in the first two games and ripping off Deus EX.