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Drew Karpyshyn's Opinion?


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for those of you who dont know, Drew Karpyshyn was the original lead writer for Kotor, ME1, and ME2, and has written several of the ME novels. He recently left Bioware, and there have been rumors circulating that his original vision for ME3 and its conclusion was VERY different from what we got and, in my opinion, far superior. 

Is there any way we can reach out to him to get his thoughts on the ME ending? He's not affiliated with Bioware anymore, so maybe he'll open up?

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He wrote Kotor, Kotor 2 was continued by other writer, it had a bad ending.
He wrote ME, ME3 was made by other writer, it had a bad ending.

I'm starting to see a pattern here.

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Conflict of opinion and ideas

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People said "ME2" sucked too. Hell, some of the same people I now see championing Drew Karpyshyn and his writing.

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Contact him? I doubt he would reply.

What is the rumor? I want to know what he was planning. Although I have mixed feelings about Drew after his SWTOR Jedi Knight storyline (which was terrible).

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hex23 wrote...

People said "ME2" sucked too. Hell, some of the same people I now see championing Drew Karpyshyn and his writing.


I'm pretty sure he left writing ME2 halfway to go to some other project. Am I right or wrong here?

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El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

He wrote Kotor, Kotor 2 was continued by other writer, it had a bad ending.
He wrote ME, ME3 was made by other writer, it had a bad ending.

I'm starting to see a pattern here.


Im pretty sure KOTOR 2 was made by a different company all together

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gabe2gg wrote...

hex23 wrote...

People said "ME2" sucked too. Hell, some of the same people I now see championing Drew Karpyshyn and his writing.


I'm pretty sure he left writing ME2 halfway to go to some other project. Am I right or wrong here?


I believe that he was the lead writer of ME1 and a writer for ME2, but not the lead writer.

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gabe2gg wrote...

I'm pretty sure he left writing ME2 halfway to go to some other project. Am I right or wrong here?


Doesn't matter. People conveniently forget that "ME2" was villified on these boards for more or less the exact same reasons as "ME3".

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hex23 wrote...

gabe2gg wrote...

I'm pretty sure he left writing ME2 halfway to go to some other project. Am I right or wrong here?


Doesn't matter. People conveniently forget that "ME2" was villified on these boards for more or less the exact same reasons as "ME3".


Uh...no. In fact, the last time I remember anyone daring to criticize the game (a user named Smudboy), he was vilified and trashed by diehard fans. I've never seen anyone complain about the game beyond the silly concept of a Human Reaper. Even Arrival had a bunch of supporters.

In contrast, almost everyone loves ME3 right up to the ending. That's where the bulk of the complaints come from.

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crazyrabbits wrote...
In contrast, everyone sane loves ME3 right up to the ending


Fixed

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hex23 wrote...

gabe2gg wrote...

I'm pretty sure he left writing ME2 halfway to go to some other project. Am I right or wrong here?


Doesn't matter. People conveniently forget that "ME2" was villified on these boards for more or less the exact same reasons as "ME3".


I remember those rants, something like "the story is too short cuz i skipped all the loyalty missions", or "no one died in my suicide mission".

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dont_look_down wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

He wrote Kotor, Kotor 2 was continued by other writer, it had a bad ending.
He wrote ME, ME3 was made by other writer, it had a bad ending.

I'm starting to see a pattern here.


Im pretty sure KOTOR 2 was made by a different company all together

Not quite.

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ncknck wrote...

dont_look_down wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

He wrote Kotor, Kotor 2 was continued by other writer, it had a bad ending.
He wrote ME, ME3 was made by other writer, it had a bad ending.

I'm starting to see a pattern here.


Im pretty sure KOTOR 2 was made by a different company all together

Not quite.


Wasn't it made by Obsidian?

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I expect the storyline would have been improved, not that it was bad in ME2 or ME3. On the contrary, I really liked the idea of assembling a team in ME2 and taking the fight to the Collectors, I thought it was awesome. Obviously the resources were spread thin in this case as there were so many characters, but I figured ME3 would be more intimate and at least you got to see all the old members again. The problem is the endings, it all comes back to those god awful endings.

I'd really like to see some feedback from Karpyshyn.

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KOTOR 2 was made by Obsidian under the direction of Chris Avellone (who worked on Planescape Torment, Icewinde Dale, KOTOR 2, NWN 2, Alpha Protocol and Fallout New Vegas).

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I've been saying for years now that Mass Effect needs Drew.

You can clearly chart the positives and negatives of ME's story by whether or not Drew wrote them.

I made a post when Drew was moved to the TOR team asking if it had something to do with conflict over the direction of ME. People called me a conspiracy theorist.

Now he's quit BioWare, and ME3 drops. What do you say now?

I firmly believe that EA gave BioWare new directions that they had to take the ME series in midway through the development of ME2, and this caused Drew to resign as lead writer, because he wouldn't compromise. So EA promoted Mac Walters, and he has murdered Mass Effect.

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He has a website, with an email address listed. You can contact him directly.

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Marta Rio wrote...

He has a website, with an email address listed. You can contact him directly.


Indeed, I don't trust my tact or elegance or I would drop him a line. Perhaps someone could ask him for a short interview and post it up here?

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moneycashgeorge wrote...
I firmly believe that EA gave BioWare new directions that they had to take the ME series in midway through the development of ME2, and this caused Drew to resign as lead writer, because he wouldn't compromise. So EA promoted Mac Walters, and he has murdered Mass Effect.


I have a feeling that this is probably pretty close to how things actually transpired.

Speaking of the good parts of ME2, does anyone know who was responsible for writing which characters?

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Maybe we should tweet Drew Karpyshyn to hear his opinions, although EA have probably bought his silence.
His Twitter's here, if anyone wants it:
https://twitter.com/#!/drewkarpyshyn

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Drew Karpyshyn did not write ME2. He wrote KOTOR, SWTOR, and Mass Effect.

Mac Walters took over Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3.

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ncknck wrote...

dont_look_down wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

He wrote Kotor, Kotor 2 was continued by other writer, it had a bad ending.
He wrote ME, ME3 was made by other writer, it had a bad ending.

I'm starting to see a pattern here.


Im pretty sure KOTOR 2 was made by a different company all together

Not quite.


Quite. Obsidian, nee Black Isles Studios, made KOTOR 2. Just look at the box.

Modifié par The Big Nothing, 10 mars 2012 - 06:57 .


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The Big Nothing wrote...

Drew Karpyshyn did not write ME2. He wrote KOTOR, SWTOR, and Mass Effect.

Mac Walters took over Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3.


I guess that would exlain the rather different... "fee" of Mass Effect 2 and 3. I don't want to condemn it on overyone's behalf, but I felt the seconds two games were jsut so much more claustrophobic so to speak. Not just darker in content, but all-in-all I felt as though the charm was lost so to speak. No game since ME1 has made me feel the same sense of awe or scale.

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The Big Nothing wrote...

Drew Karpyshyn did not write ME2. He wrote KOTOR, SWTOR, and Mass Effect.

Mac Walters took over Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3.


He worked on ME2 until they started production on SWTOR then he went to work on that.