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[ncknck]

android654 wrote...

Wasn't it made by Obsidian?

yeah well, Obsidian and Bioware were once quite linked. So i wouldnt call it a "different company all together". Not that it matters.

[LilyasAvalon]

The Big Nothing wrote...

Drew Karpyshyn did not write ME2. He wrote KOTOR, SWTOR, and Mass Effect.

Mac Walters took over Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3.

...Suddenly it all makes sense.

[Jorec]

To be honest I think Mac Walters has a done a pretty good job with the writing so far all things considered. Then again I'm only about 16 hours in so maybe it gets worse later? I mean without spoiling anything Thane and Grunt had some really great moments.

[moneycashgeorge]

The Big Nothing wrote...

Drew Karpyshyn did not write ME2. He wrote KOTOR, SWTOR, and Mass Effect.

Mac Walters took over Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3.

Drew did write part of ME2 and is credited as a writer. He left that studio to begin writing SWTOR halfway through development, in what I consider to be suspicious circumstances. This was shortly after EA purchased BioWare.

[Spectre_Shepard]

I thought that the writing for most of ME3 was excellent, and Walters should be commended for it.

But he blew the conclusion. And I really wonder if it would have been different with Drew.

[Sith_exar_kun]

Yeah, someone should tweet him!

[moneycashgeorge]

Jorec wrote...

To be honest I think Mac Walters has a done a pretty good job with the writing so far all things considered. Then again I'm only about 16 hours in so maybe it gets worse later? I mean without spoiling anything Thane and Grunt had some really great moments.

Just wait until you see the ending. By the way, Mac Walters wrote those comic books.....and they are some of the worst fiction I've ever read.

I don't want to sound like a nut or anything, after all I have no knowledge of how the writing team works and you would think that it takes skill to become lead writer at BioWare, but all the information I have leads me to believe that Mac Walters is a talentless hack that has no qualms with destroying this franchise. Just calling it like I see it.

[TempestViking]

Honestly, if Drew isn't involved with any new ME3 stuff I'm pretty much done with the series.

[Syrellaris]

hex23 wrote...

gabe2gg wrote...

I'm pretty sure he left writing ME2 halfway to go to some other project. Am I right or wrong here?

Doesn't matter. People conveniently forget that "ME2" was villified on these boards for more or less the exact same reasons as "ME3".

Bull****. It is just a handfull of people that hated ME2, just as a handfull of people right now hate ME3. Seriously get over it. If you don't like a game then return it and dont play it.

BTW he left Bioware on his own accord, to follow various of his own projects and Novel writing. He wanted to write about other stuff then star wars and Mass effect.  He had minimal things to do with ME2 and hardly none with ME3. He had some stuff to do with SW : the old republic.

[Massefeckt]

BewareofCrisps wrote...

Maybe we should tweet Drew Karpyshyn to hear his opinions, although EA have probably bought his silence.
His Twitter's here, if anyone wants it:
https://twitter.com/#!/drewkarpyshyn

He isn't going to say anything bad. He more than likely is bound by NDA's so don't expect much if anything. Plus a lot of the guys on the ME3 team are probably his friends I doubt he's going to say anything bad about them.

Syrellaris wrote...

hex23 wrote...

gabe2gg wrote...

I'm pretty sure he left writing ME2 halfway to go to some other project. Am I right or wrong here?

Doesn't matter. People conveniently forget that "ME2" was villified on these boards for more or less the exact same reasons as "ME3".

Bull****. It is just a handfull of people that hated ME2, just as a handfull of people right now hate ME3. Seriously get over it. If you don't like a game then return it and dont play it.

BTW he left Bioware on his own accord, to follow various of his own projects and Novel writing. He wanted to write about other stuff then star wars and Mass effect.  He had minimal things to do with ME2 and hardly none with ME3. He had some stuff to do with SW : the old republic.

No one ever leaves EA for bad reasons, not until years later anyway. Westwood had a large amount of people leave just after EA took over, it took almost a decade until people actually admitted it was because they hated the way things were. All these guys have contracts that state they cannoth say bad things about the company without being sued. Not saying Drew has any problems with EA but even if he did he won't be able to talk about it.

[Amikae]

I twitted him yesterday, but he hasn't responded yet. He's been inactive on his twitter for a few days so here's hoping he will give us his opinion. Actually I outright begged him to come back and fix this. Pathetic.

[Nathan Redgrave]

hex23 wrote...

People said "ME2" sucked too. Hell, some of the same people I now see championing Drew Karpyshyn and his writing.

In that case he wasn't "the" main writer, but one of the main writers. Mac Walters, the main writer of ME3, is also the other main writer for ME2.

[Kusy]

Drew is indeed replying to most if not all of his fan-mail, you might ask him about his opinion on Mass Effect 3, but I'm sure as a professional, he won't voice it even IF it would be negative.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 11 mars 2012 - 12:19 .

[Farbautisonn]

Drew isnt going to say anything bad about his former employer... because he might once again need to work for Bio/EA or related partners. Also, if he gets a rep as "judgeing" his former company he likely wont be hired.

So what will happen is one of two things:

He either comes to the aid of friends and a former company, which will be seen as his seal of approval. If he left on good or great terms with EA/Bio that wouldnt be an entirely unlikely scenario. He could even opt for a "diplomatic" version where he doesnt outright support the story or Bio/EA but supports his excoworkers.

or

He stays well the hell clear of this beehive of BS, and leaves us to imagine how he would percieve the turn the franchise took. That isnt going to be a pretty but at least he will have kept his nose clear.

[The Big Nothing]

moneycashgeorge wrote...

The Big Nothing wrote...

Drew Karpyshyn did not write ME2. He wrote KOTOR, SWTOR, and Mass Effect.

Mac Walters took over Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3.

Drew did write part of ME2 and is credited as a writer. He left that studio to begin writing SWTOR halfway through development, in what I consider to be suspicious circumstances. This was shortly after EA purchased BioWare.

Do I smell a conspiracy? Disagreements over the direction of the franchise perhaps? Oh, ho ho.

[Kusy]

As for Mass Effect 2 (from what I collected), Drew started as the lead writer, but then he left for TOR, somewhere in the middle of the project. Hence the cut content from the previous begining (ME2 was supposed to start with Legion and Liara rescuing Shepard's body from what I heard).

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 11 mars 2012 - 12:20 .

[Nathan Redgrave]

QuadDamage85 wrote...

I thought ME2 had a wonderful ending. The 2nd of any series isn't supposed to have a grand ending, it's suppose to tie things together between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Only issues I had with 2 were the side quest, which largely made no sense. Thankfully they remedied that issue with Mass Effect 3.

In Mass Effect 2 that kind of sidequest system makes more sense than some give it credit for, since there isn't a sense of racing the clock to the endgame like there is in ME1 and ME3. Shepard spends the game collecting personel and resources for the final mission, and in that nigh-perpetual state of "getting ready," there isn't any logical dead end for how or why Shepard would wind up in the correct neck of the woods for a given sidequest. When you are confronted with a situation where the story implies racing the clock as necessary, you were either railroaded directly to the mission in question (Horizon and the Collector Ship), or penalized if you wasted time (rescuing the Cerberus crew from the Collector Base during the endgame).

The original Mass Effect is actually the game in the series with the most nonsensical sidequest integration, since there's no real reason for Shepard to be making so many sidetrips when all of the major mission sites are given to him on a silver platter almost immediately, and he is in fact pressed for time because of how important it is to find Saren before Saren finds the Conduit.

In Mass Effect 3, the majority of sidequests and N7 missions are focused on helping the war effort in some form or another, be it tracking down extra resources or helping disrupt Reaper or Cerberus operations. It doesn't always make as much sense as ME2 did, but apart from the annoying way in which town missions are typically dispensed, it largely integrates well with the main plot, and the story presentation surrounding these missions is much more satisfying than in the previous two games.

Modifié par Nathan Redgrave, 11 mars 2012 - 12:25 .

[Quionic]

 He saw how bad ME3 was and left, it was like what happened with 
Brent Knowles and the Dragon Age series. 

Modifié par Quionic, 11 mars 2012 - 12:40 .

[Sashimi_taco]

hex23 wrote...

gabe2gg wrote...

I'm pretty sure he left writing ME2 halfway to go to some other project. Am I right or wrong here?

Doesn't matter. People conveniently forget that "ME2" was villified on these boards for more or less the exact same reasons as "ME3".

That is not true. Many people loved the endings, they only though the reaper was stupid. 

[AngryFrozenWater]

Drew Karpyshyn wrote...

This is my first update since I publicly announced my retirement from BioWare. Honestly, I was a bit surprised by how much attention it got. I expected some message boards and forums to be buzzing with the news, but I didn’t think it would get scooped up by sites like Kotaku and Gamasutra. Nice to know I’ll be missed, though of course there were the usual internet trolls trying to turn this into something it’s not. I read all sorts of comments about why I “really” left, many of them proclaiming doom and gloom for BioWare. All of it is typical internet BS, though. As I said before, BioWare will do just fine without me.

As for focusing on my novels, things are going well. I’m in talks with an agent for Children of Fire, even as I churn away at the latest Star Wars book I’m not allowed to talk about… except now I *can* talk about it! (Oohh… can you feel the excitement?)

The book is called Star Wars: Annihilation, and there’s a brief plot synopsis on the Star Wars facebook page. We also have a publication date: November 13, 2012.

I only have one more bit of business for this update – something a little different for those of you in the Austin area who may share my love of golf. My wife is organizing a charity golf tournament to raise money for Lifelong Friends, a no-kill animal shelter she volunteers at. (Warning – clicking on the link may inspire you to donate or possibly adopt a lovable furry companion.)

The tournament is a four-person scramble, it’s for a great cause and we have all sorts of cool prizes. You can sign up with friends as a team, or you can sign up as a single and we’ll put you on a team.

I’m already booked for a team, but I’ll also be at the dinner and prize draws afterwards, so any golfers who want to come by and chat or get their books signed after the tournament are welcome to track me down.

Hope to see some of you there!

Drew

BTW... According to Drew, he didn't work on ME3 and he left ME2 midway to work on SWTOR.

He describes the ME3 demo as "cool" and he is happy to approach the franchise as a fan.

Source: Drew Karpyshyn News February 15, 2012.

Modifié par AngryFrozenWater, 11 mars 2012 - 12:47 .

[Chaoswind]

hmmmm makes sense

ME1 plot twist were Gold
ME2 was a gold game, but lacked plot deep with certain characters, and starting with Legin/Liara getting sheps body would have been super awesome.
ME3 well I am still waiting my copy (omg I will get it on the 15!!!!) but the consensus with reviewers and non spoiler sites, seems to be that the plot is indeed weaker than Mass Effect 2 and 1, yet the gameplay makes up for it.

I think the game would had been much better if the PLOT TWIST had been as good as ME1, and the game play was just as good as the final games, seems like the only thing that improved was gameplay and the game plot got hit by a car...

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Gaming industry NDAs last until hell freezes over. You can't even tell your shrink about stuff, or the priest. Maybe you can tell your cat because cats never tell anyone, but you'd better check to see if they're wearing a wire.

[DragonRageGT]

Prince_Valiant wrote...

Jorec wrote...

To be honest I think Mac Walters has a done a pretty good job with the writing so far all things considered..

Yes, he did. ME2 and ME3 are great und stirring - except the endings, of course.

This. Everything in ME3 is awesome, up to Quarian/Geth missions, which is where I am at, except for the endings perhaps, which I was spoiled enough and dont really care. It shouldnt be enough to reduce an epic game to the piece of **** some people keep doing because of 10 minutes of the game.