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Why Joker, Anderson, and Liara?


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Revalations92

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Due to my nerdrage about the endings, I have watched quite a few of them on the interwebs to see if theres any differences (There aren't). But one thing I did notice was once you choose one of the endings, Joker Anderson and Liara appear. It appears to be the same for everyone though, not just those who chose Liara as their LI. Anyone else notice this?

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GBGriffin

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Revalations92 wrote...

Due to my nerdrage about the endings, I have watched quite a few of them on the interwebs to see if theres any differences (There aren't). But one thing I did notice was once you choose one of the endings, Joker Anderson and Liara appear. It appears to be the same for everyone though, not just those who chose Liara as their LI. Anyone else notice this?


I was fortunate in that this made sense for my contrived ending, since my Shep romanced Liara.

From what I understand, Liara happens regardless of LI (though I think maybe Ashley or Kaidan show up if you romanced them?). I can't even begin to imagine what it must be like for the people who didn't romance Liara or just despised her throughout the series. Final punch in the gut, I guess?

Modifié par GBGriffin, 10 mars 2012 - 06:22 .


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BlackDragonBane

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My Shepard was a close friend to Liara, but I romanced Garrus, so seeing her was kind of weird.

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You haven't known Javik and Vega long enough, everyone else can die? Leaving them as default.

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Liara is a writers pet. And Anderson is Shepard's mentor.

I have no idea about Joker. You'll have to take that up with him.

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At first I thought it was unique to my game, Liara being my Shepard's LI and all. But seeing that it's in all endings just reinforces the laziness of the ending.

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If I'm not mistaken, the third person is Ashley/Kaidan if you romanced them, or Liara otherwise.

Liara is apparently the intended or "default" love interest. From what I hear, the third person was supposed to be your love interest, but they couldn't fit them all in and decided on this at the last minute. Sounds strange to me.

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Truth is, it was a glitch. The last person you are supposed to see is your LI, but they ended up just scrapping it and putting Liara in. Although I believe Kaidan and Ashley will still show up if you romanced them.

[According to SomethingAwful, where the original leaks came from]

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It's just another moment of Bioware being lazy.

The game is full of these moments. The ending is just the biggest offender.

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I romanced tali and she came out on my synthetic ending not sure if it happens to everyone also joker and edi were out first.

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Was quite confused that there was no Miranda there, but since her romance was pretty much garbage in Mass Effect 3 it's no surprise. Which is kind of odd, considering all the flack they got from the Kaiden and Ashley fans for Mass Effect 2, that they would do the same thing to the fans of the Mass Effect 2 squad mates. Though even worse for the Fem Shep players who romanced Thane or Jacob.

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Ashley showed up for me, since I romanced her.

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Lord Nikon 001

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The ending my wife had was Joker, James and then Kaiden out of the shuttle. Hard to repopulate the planed that way. Image IPB

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Well, in my case Joker, Ashley (my LI) and EDI jumped outside the crashed Normandy, for the Paragon, 2 handles choice... Joker, Ashley and Vega for my Renegade 'shoot-the-conduit' choice...

Go figure...

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My flashbacks were Anderson, Joker and Kaidan, my LI, and then on the planet, Joker and Kaidan made it out of the Normandy. Presumably someone else too (Liara?), but I didn't notice because I was too upset about the ending/"endings".

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Sparatus wrote...

It's just another moment of Bioware being lazy.

The game is full of these moments. The ending is just the biggest offender.

Change avatar. Seriously. :unsure:

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Joker and Anderson were with you from the beginning.. It's fitting you'd see them at the end.

If Ashley was your LI you'd get her as a flashback. The only squadmate flashback movies they have on disc are for Ash/Kaiden and Liara. They should have put more on there, but they didn't.

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Joker's been by Shepard's side, believing in them since ME1. Anderson is Shepard's mentor.

And Liara is... Liara...

...Yes, I know she's the whole reason Shepard's alive again in ME2, but still, I would've preferred to see Garrus.

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Penguins wrote...

Truth is, it was a glitch. The last person you are supposed to see is your LI, but they ended up just scrapping it and putting Liara in. Although I believe Kaidan and Ashley will still show up if you romanced them.

[According to SomethingAwful, where the original leaks came from]


That's just ****ing lazy.

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I wanted to see Udina.

Not seeing Udina is an outrage.

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I really don't like that they kinda force Kaiden/Liara/Ashley on us. I don't like either of the three very much , the best beeing probably Kaiden as a bro. Even in ME1 i would've wanted to romance Tali hell i would've taken Wrex over Ashley/Liara if possible and i'm not even into all the gay stuff. But at least that character was likeable for me.

Modifié par Serp86, 10 mars 2012 - 06:50 .


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Well, I didn't get Liara...
My femshep romanced Liara in ME1, didn't do shadowbroker (for the one I imported) in ME2, and turned down Liara is ME3 and romanced Traynor in ME3 instead.

The ending I got Joker, Traynor, and Garrus as the third person, so no Liara at all, though Garrus was with me when I was running to the beam too so no clue how he made it to the ship...

*Edit
Yeah, I realized that this was about the three flashbacks, and it did make more sense that they were the ones that have been the since the beginning as mandatory characters that you've been with. I think Garrus was an optional squad member in ME1, so when it all boils down, these are the three that's been there since ME1 that doesn't require player preferences/decisions.

Modifié par Byriok, 12 mars 2012 - 05:50 .


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Byriok wrote...

Well, I didn't get Liara...
My femshep romanced Liara in ME1, didn't do shadowbroker (for the one I imported) in ME2, and turned down Liara is ME3 and romanced Traynor in ME3 instead.

The ending I got Joker, Traynor, and Garrus as the third person, so no Liara at all, though Garrus was with me when I was running to the beam too so no clue how he made it to the ship...


Not what comes out of the Ship thats allways your LI , Joker and someone from your Squad that has been with you at the end. But in the flashback when you start the ending sequence. You'll see Anderson/Joker and Liara/Kaiden/Ash if none of those had been your LI it'll be Liara regardless.

For some reason Javik leaves the normandy for me alongside Tali and Joker for some reason even if i don't take him with me on my last mission.

Modifié par Serp86, 10 mars 2012 - 06:56 .


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AxisEvolve wrote...

Joker and Anderson were with you from the beginning.. It's fitting you'd see them at the end.

As were Kaidan, Tali, and Garrus. Didn't see them.

Modifié par Mr. Big Pimpin, 10 mars 2012 - 06:56 .


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the three I saw coming out of the ship were Joker, Kaidan and Garrus (really random cuz i never used him at all)

I wonder if they were the only survivors or what... that whole scene with the Normandy was confusing as hell

in the flashback i saw kaidan, joker and anderson though

Modifié par Sorayai, 10 mars 2012 - 06:56 .