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[Spartan B004]

Yeah so like everyone else I'm unhappy with the ending, to put it nicest terms. That aside, and all my support that goes to f1ndmenow's idea and poll, there is still a contradiction in the story's ending.

Now here's the problem(s):

1) The Normandy was busy fighting the reapers with the Galactic Fleet over Earth, so at the end, why were they shown going through a mass relay? How would they have gotten there that quickly, in any circumstance?

2) The definition of a synthetic organism needs to be redefined. Synthetics are like androids, or the reapers. The Geth are NOT synthetics, they have an artificial body with a COMPUTER PROGRAM onboard, and they transfer to hubs. This is not a synthetic. There is a difference between a computer program and a synthetic that I think bioware didn't get here.

3) The Mass Relays were destroyed when the Crucible shot it's pulse that did whatever you want to the Reapers, followed by a beam that shot into Sol's Mass Relay. That shot beams to all the other Mass Relays subsequently destroying them.

The problem with the last one is, if anyone remembers ME2's DLC "Arrival" - remember that the mass relay's destruction ends with an explosion that wipes and entire system. I'm sure it's not too hard to piece together what I'm saying.

How is everyone alive? It shows people still alive, but the result, no matter what you pick would lead to everyone dying due to the explosion of every Mass Relay in the galaxy. wut.

[Cosmar]

As for #3, I think the explanation is not so much they are "destroyed" but just "disabled/turned off". No one in the galaxy knew how the relays really worked, and thus could not "turn them off" like Catalyst could, but had to resort to brute force to blow them up. Doesn't mean I like it though.

#1, I'm not sure. Only plausible explanation I can think of is that there was enough time when the Space Magic Explosion began for Joker to see it and be like "%^&#!" and hightail it out of there.

#2, I agree with you there. Geth=software that just happen to have customised hardware platforms to do stuff in.

Not trying to defend BW with the other 2, I don't like it either, just saying my personal rationale for it all...

[3Minotaur3]

How Catalyst on Citadel took the shape of the kid killed on Earth?... Capable of Mind probing but unable to stop a crawling, bloody Shepard...

After entering the light beam at the end with a pistol, Shep has to walk slooooooooowly a few meter to grab another one...

Modifié par 3Minotaur3, 10 mars 2012 - 07:22 .

[Spartan B004]

It shows the mass relays spinning harder and harder to the point of destruction actually. If you've watched them. The rings go faster and faster and you even see explosions on the superstructure of the Mass Relay itself. That's why I say its a contradiction...

[Bachi1230]

Spartan B004 wrote...

It shows the mass relays spinning harder and harder to the point of destruction actually. If you've watched them. The rings go faster and faster and you even see explosions on the superstructure of the Mass Relay itself. That's why I say its a contradiction...

And right before they explode the rings stop moving

[Superninfreak]

Cosmar wrote...

As for #3, I think the explanation is not so much they are "destroyed" but just "disabled/turned off". No one in the galaxy knew how the relays really worked, and thus could not "turn them off" like Catalyst could, but had to resort to brute force to blow them up. Doesn't mean I like it though.

The game never said this though, it never told us that the Crucible would destory relays in a better way than in Arrival. Besides, we can see relays exploding from a view of the whole Galaxy, I don't see how the explosions would be visible unless if they were system destorying events.

[BobbyTheI]

I was mulling the idea of writing a fanfic, a thought that would have been horrific to me before, set post-Destroy ending and trying to make things a little less dark.

But for the life of me, I cannot figure out how in the hell I could possibly make #1 make the least bit of sense. Especially since any squadmates you took with you for the assault on the teleport beam can show up on Gilligan's Planet, too.

I think I know what BioWare was going for: their attempt at a "happy ending" for your crew in case you did poorly and Earth got destroyed, at least your friends ended up landing on a new planet and starting over. But it feels so clumsily tacked-on, and makes absolutely no logical sense whatsoever.

[Turkeysock]

I think it's possible that it shot it's Eezo core to the next relay and the next relay did the same, etc. etc. eventually shooting the cores out into dark space.

[I_Jedi]

Shepard was indoctrinated at the end, giving him all those terrible ending visions. The actual ending happens off-screen, but everything works out fine.

[Computron2000]

2) The definition of a synthetic organism needs to be redefined. Synthetics are like androids, or the reapers. The Geth are NOT synthetics, they have an artificial body with a COMPUTER PROGRAM onboard, and they transfer to hubs. This is not a synthetic. There is a difference between a computer program and a synthetic that I think bioware didn't get here.

Good catch. If it wiped out computer programs, then the entire fleet would be dead in space since everyone uses computers and VIs to pilot

The problem with the last one is, if anyone remembers ME2's DLC "Arrival" - remember that the mass relay's destruction ends with an explosion that wipes and entire system. I'm sure it's not too hard to piece together what I'm saying.

This is still possible to explain away as Eath's mass relay is behind pluto http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Sol so it may be possible to just explain the colony destruction as being too close to the relay compared to Earth http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Bahak

Modifié par Computron2000, 10 mars 2012 - 07:31 .

[crimsontotem]

Can I just point out that synthetic ending is making everyone looks like Saren?

when he said "I am the final evolution": Organic and Synthetic... he wasn't kidding...

which is kinda said again by the star child AND that, to me, tells me that the kid is actually a

Harbinger trying to bend Shepard to his and reapers will.

[Rafe34]

I_Jedi wrote...

Shepard was indoctrinated at the end, giving him all those terrible ending visions. The actual ending happens off-screen, but everything works out fine.

Exactly. The Illusive Man screwed up Shep's mind, and then the kid is controlling her from that point on. The fleet goes, "Huh. Oh well, guess the Crucible's not gonna work," and proceeds to kick the Reapers collective asses.

Modifié par Rafe34, 10 mars 2012 - 07:47 .

[Spartan B004]

Topic aside, mind if I copy your sig, Rafe34?