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#126
malkuth74

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As more and more people finish the game it will get worse.

Even though I still think they should keep these endings as options they need to add more better endings.  Because at this point I have no will to play through any of the games again at this point.

There is no point.  because in the end I have

Blue Death ending End of universe
Green Death Ending End of Uneverse
Red Death ending End Of Unevers.

Pfft whats the point?  

And they can keep these endings because they can be part of the Well You messed up doing this in M1 Or 2 so you get this...

Thats what I was expecting.. NOt a COLOR OPTION>  WTF?

Modifié par malkuth74, 10 mars 2012 - 10:03 .


#127
omgBAMF

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My biggest frustration is that no matter what, any DLC that comes out will NOT change the ending. The DLC will have to take place before the Cerberus base. Shepard will always be disintegrated/blown up (unless you choose destroy, which kills the geth and EDI). The only way they can fix this is to write a completely different ending and release it in one huge patch, which won't likely happen.

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Sonashi

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You know what? BioWare is just ardat-yakshi. They gave us pleasure in first two games and 99% of 3rd just to live us empty and soulless

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Xellith

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That makes a weird kinda sense... now I feel dirty..,

#130
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I see them more like an abusive spouse. We keep taking their beatings and making excuses for them because we love them. I think this ending was our intervention from a concerned friend.

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OverwatchGMX

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Finished the game 20 minutes ago... Fantastic game, loved every minute of the 25-or-so hours I've put into it... Except, of course... for the last 10-15 minutes.

Seriously?.. Was that the ending? All the decisions from all 3 games, all the allies... Pretty much pointless for a bit of "Sacrificial space magic" ... A rather shoddy ending to a 5-year trilogy.

I feel your pain, I would love alternate endings but sadly.. And doubtfully, it won't happen.
We can live in hope...

#132
Seanabhainn

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astrophyzcs wrote...

Brace yourselves for massive disappointment.


I don't think I have the capacity to feel more.

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Xellith wrote...

That makes a weird kinda sense... now I feel dirty..,


Just like thousands people here mate. Shep is a hero and they even didn't give him a proper farewell. Grandads story? What kind of  farewell that is? Cheapness I think.

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I'm so tired of waiting for the answers I seek. I don't believe they fix the endings. I've already lost hope. When I've find out how ME 3 ended, I couldn't even think straight. It is THE END and I don't wanna see THE END again, it's just too painful. Goodbye Mass Effect, you've been the greatest story I've ever have the chance to experience. You gave me opportunity to change the fate of all galaxy and I thank you for that. Now it's time to move on and never look back.

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Miraider wrote...

I'm so tired of waiting for the answers I seek. I don't believe they fix the endings. I've already lost hope. When I've find out how ME 3 ended, I couldn't even think straight. It is THE END and I don't wanna see THE END again, it's just too painful. Goodbye Mass Effect, you've been the greatest story I've ever have the chance to experience. You gave me opportunity to change the fate of all galaxy and I thank you for that. Now it's time to move on and never look back.


Come on. The game is a week old for some people, few days old in Europe. If a Ending DLC come it will be at least in one or two months, not before.

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Hanabii wrote...

I'd just say keep the Geth and Edi alive in the destruction ending and I'd be okay.

This.

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Nightshade386

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Well, if they are listening and want to do something about it, they still have to be very careful about how they approach this with fans like us. We (as gamers) have a tendency to overreact sometimes, and they wouldn't want it all coming out like this:


Modifié par Nightshade386, 10 mars 2012 - 10:35 .


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Fair34 wrote...

I just don't understand how they could have thought the fans would be happy with these endings.


That is, perhaps, the most baffling part of all this.  Somebody wrote this out, and somebody approved it, and apparently those involved considered it to be good, or at least good enough.  It's very hard to believe that they wouldn't see this reaction coming, but in a way, they must not have because if they did, they wouldn't have given us this. 

Sure, they couldn't possibly please everyone, and perhaps they never intended for there to be a completely happy ending, but I don't really see how such a talented dev team could have thought that different colors pasted on the same scenes and some glaring plotholes combined with next to zero closure would be considered acceptable. 

TexasToast712 wrote...

Hanabii wrote...

I'd just say keep the Geth and Edi alive in the destruction ending and I'd be okay.

This.


Agreed.  This is my really conservative request regarding the ending.  It wouldn't take much.  Just have that "Shepard breathing" scene inserted into each ending provided the EMS is high enough.  Or have it so that Destroy takes out the relays and Reapers only.  I was really excited to do NG+ when I saw that it was possible to have Shepard live if the EMS was high enough.  Then I read more carefully and realized what I'd have to sacrifice for this. 

Modifié par Greed1914, 10 mars 2012 - 10:41 .


#139
tasca1180

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I bet the official response is going to be something like this: "We put a lot of thought into the endings and they reflect our artistic vision. If you don't like them, you're just too stupid to understand and appreciate them properly. Here, have some DLC with a new squad mate to live in the empty life support room. It's not going to change our artful endings, obviously"

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mjm3 wrote...

i wish i banged morinth at the end of me2 if i knew i would die banging the relays instead

Ohh had forgotten about that. Yep me 2

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I can just see it now...

"Yup, we've listened to the fans and now, not only have we fixed the facial import bug, but now your journal updates... Wait, what did you think I was talking about?"

The thing is, in the time I've been in the BSN, I've seen people complain loud enough to break glass over tiny things and not so tiny things, but they've made such complete asses of themselves while doing it that when a REAL problem like this one rears its ugly head, the devs just shrug it off as the BSN being the BSN. I hate to say it, but we've kind of dug our own graves with this one.

The endings are not getting changed. I'm still a BioWare fan, because the forty hours leading up to the endings in ME3 were top shelf BW. One of the three or four best games they've ever made.

But Christ, this really is demoralizing.

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Teddie Sage

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I feel bad for him. Just saying. But the truth is, not everyone is happy about his "project".

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Greed1914

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royceclemens wrote...

I can just see it now...

"Yup, we've listened to the fans and now, not only have we fixed the facial import bug, but now your journal updates... Wait, what did you think I was talking about?"

The thing is, in the time I've been in the BSN, I've seen people complain loud enough to break glass over tiny things and not so tiny things, but they've made such complete asses of themselves while doing it that when a REAL problem like this one rears its ugly head, the devs just shrug it off as the BSN being the BSN. I hate to say it, but we've kind of dug our own graves with this one.

The endings are not getting changed. I'm still a BioWare fan, because the forty hours leading up to the endings in ME3 were top shelf BW. One of the three or four best games they've ever made.

But Christ, this really is demoralizing.


Sadly, it's true.  We'll probably see fixes to technical issues like the faces and the wonky journal, but anything plot related will be considered off the table. 

Like you said, the rest of the time the game was fantastic.  I was all set to say that this was Game of the Year for 2012, but then the ending happened. 

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its a flicker of hope at least.

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Harbinger of Hope

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mione wrote...

Even if they are reading our comments/polls/petitions all we are going to get is something close to this

"While we appreciate the dedication and commitment our fans have shown over Mass Effect 3 and the series as a whole, We at Bioware stand by the Mass Effect team and our writers on their epic conclusion to a fantastic trilogy."

No one can beat the starchild and it's horrible choices. . .


If that's what I get then I will be selling back my copies of ME2 and ME3 back to gamestop. And if you are as pissed as I am, do the same.

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The thing is, in the time I've been in the BSN, I've seen people complain loud enough to break glass over tiny things and not so tiny things, but they've made such complete asses of themselves while doing it that when a REAL problem like this one rears its ugly head, the devs just shrug it off as the BSN being the BSN. I hate to say it, but we've kind of dug our own graves with this one.


I'm not so sure. The sheer level of fan discontent over the endings should definitely cause Bioware to take note. Yes, people make lots of noise about the dumbest things. But usually there's a certain amount of resistance to really dumb ideas by some fans. And you'll only get a limited number of threads on a particular "useless" topic. With the endings, the forum is literally deluged in threads that almost all say the same thing - the end of the game is weak. And there's very little in the way of counterarguments. Yes, there are people trying to argue otherwise. But there aren't very many people doing that.

The real threat is Bioware deciding that the "actual" problem is something else entirely and that the complaints about the weak end to the game are merely a substitute for the real problem.

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Greed1914 wrote...

I was all set to say that this was Game of the Year for 2012, but then the ending happened. 


Yep. Too bad ME3 turned out to be the video game version of the "bowl of chili" joke.

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royceclemens wrote...

I can just see it now...

"Yup, we've listened to the fans and now, not only have we fixed the facial import bug, but now your journal updates... Wait, what did you think I was talking about?"


Funny thing is that with these endings, the face import fix has become pretty obsolete. Who's really going to put five Shepards through the game, knowing that all the different decisions make no difference at all?

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99% of the game was absolutely great, in my opinion it was the best game in the series. The thing with the ending isn't as much of a "oh, it didn't end they way I wanted it to end". As much as I wanted to see my Shepard end the reapers off and save the galaxy, going to Rannoch to live happily ever after with Tali, I can accept that doesn't happend. I'm fine with my favorite characters dying because it was emotionally satisfying, however sad it was. I felt like crying when Mordin sacrificed himself.

I don't want to see them pushing out a new, good ending just because the fans didn't get what they wanted. I cannot however honestly believe that BioWare was satisfied with that ending. A 2-3 minute cutscene that didn't show a damn thing. It carried no weight at all. No closure to the story what so ever. It felt like such a, pardon my french, s****y ending. Everything that BioWare has created with mass effect deserves so much more than it got.

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dakka dakka wrote...

I think they are waiting for the WTFOMG #$%^storm to die down. While there is still anger on the forums people are starting to chill out and be more open minded about the ending.


Why would we be open-minded about so many blatant plotholes?