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[LMShepard]

shurryy wrote...

LMShepard wrote...

I think Casey Hudson, executive producer needs some comments on his Twitter too. The ME team needs to hear what fans really have to say...

... So Casey has it coming now huh...? He probably did so he would be able to dodge the fire from the fans after he read this ending and could already foretell the outcome. 

Heh heh, I noticed this ending really has left a hollow point in my stomach. Now all that remains is that my flesh and blood is replaced with tech and ill be a full fledged Bioware Husk... 

He sure does.  May not have tweeted since the 7th, but he'll have to take note of fans who threaten to abandon the series, promise not to purchase DLC thats probably just waiting to release and threaten to trade in their copies of the game so that others will be able to purchase pre-owned copies and not give Bioware the profits.  

[KainrycKarr]

pinoy_sav wrote...

He also did say that Bioware is planning smething so....I guess we sorta have hope?

Multiplayer DLC.

[SolidisusSnake1]

I can tell you that ME3 has soured my opinion of BioWare. Unlike everyone else I enjoyed DAII a lot, despite what people said it did a lot of things right most especially the combat. The story was pretty much just a place holder and the environment were all bland and cut and paste, but at the end of the game I felt that I did have fun with it. Of course it wasnt as great as Origins but I felt good after playing it.

With ME3 I felt literally sick after playing it, sooooo many hours and years spent playing, waiting, and anticipating an end to the series and my beloved characters. And I get an ending that doesnt care about any of that or any of my choices. So I know I wont be buying anything other than End Game DLC, and if it is never released than ME3 is the last BioWare game I play.

[pknecron]

What many media types seem to forget is that they are not making the game for themselves, they are making the game for us. If we the end consumer are not happy, then they have failed regardless of what they were "trying to say".

Some people are fine with the endings, but the vast majority are at the very least disheartened by them. I have never, in my gaming life, seen any game generate the kind of controversy this one has. It is amazing, and a bit discouraging that someone up there in Edmonton didn't stop someone important and say "WTH are you guys thinking, this will never fly?".

Modifié par pknecron, 11 mars 2012 - 12:19 .

[AlphaJarmel]

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[BrunoBerg]

KainrycKarr wrote...

BrunoBerg wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Kenthen wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

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Grumpy Midget wrote...

SmokePants wrote...

So, the people who hate the ending also foolishly believe there's even the slightest chance that it will be redone. It figures.

We vote with our wallets.  How many of the pissed off fans on this forum will be buying any more DLCs if the endings aren't changed.

Oh please, we're gamers. Gamers get mad and yell at things and as soon as a new DLC is released we drop all our rage and enter "ooooh, look moar awesome stuff for my favorite game!".

Uh, no offense, but please don't lump me in with your petty childish view of gamers.

It's not like he doesn't have a point though, there's sadly a lot of people that have asked for a chance to throw more money at EABioware just to fix an ending that shouldn't have been this catastrophically bad to begin with.

Er, that's not what  meant. I would pay for additional endings.

I'm just saying that additional DLC that ISN'T addtional/changed endingas wont make me forget how ****ty this whole mess is.

So, let me get this straight. You thought I had a petty, childish view on gamers because I said they wouldn't stand strong and more or less boycott future DLC, then you go on to say that you would pay for more DLC? Now I would like to know what you thought was petty and childish about what I said because I no longer understand what point you were trying to make.

I may have misunderstood your post. And I said I would buy specific DLC; any other DLC I would ignore as it doesn't address my problems. My problems with the game don't get addressed = no more $$ out of my pocket.

It sounded like you were saying gamers would, say, buy Omega DLC and forget about the endings because it's more stuff, which is certainly not the case with me.

Pay them for correcting this mess, are you mad? They would really mess their own **** up even worse by trying to get any money out of it.

What I meant by my original post was that gamers are often loudmouthed when it comes to things, but they very rarely follow through. I know a lot of people said that they were going to boycott Mass Effect 3 for the whole "From Ashes" DLC, being developed before release and sold on day 1, but as the day came and the game was actually released they just went "lol, nope! I'm buying this now!".

Sorry if I came off as harsh or rude in any way, it was not my intention.

[Tsantilas]

The game has been out officially since Monday (Thursday for Europe). Give it some time guys. I doubt they'll ignore the public outcry. If we don't get a patch/dlc, then at the very least we can expect a statement at some point.

[dkear1]

While I do hope they will listen and respond that flame is a tiny flame that could be extinguished with the slightest breath. They knew we would be unhappy and even admitted that "not all gamers would be happy with the ending". It stands to reason that since they knew we would not like the ending that they will not change the end and don't give a crap about the fans. Nothing else makes any sense. Sure, I could be wrong. Hell, I would love to be proved so, but sadly I don't think it will ever happen.....that tiny flame is growing smaller and more frail every minute that bioware delays answering.

[lockdown51]

Tsantilas wrote...

The game has been out officially since Monday (Thursday for Europe). Give it some time guys. I doubt they'll ignore the public outcry. If we don't get a patch/dlc, then at the very least we can expect a statement at some point.

Mark my words, Bioware is losing customers over this. Not going to lose, is actually losing right now customers. In todays fast paced world, waiting is not an option and the longer they stay silent the more irreperble damage is being done to their reputation.

[TheLostGenius]

THey are gaining more customers than they are losing them.

[WellBig D]

lockdown51 wrote...

Tsantilas wrote...

The game has been out officially since Monday (Thursday for Europe). Give it some time guys. I doubt they'll ignore the public outcry. If we don't get a patch/dlc, then at the very least we can expect a statement at some point.

Mark my words, Bioware is losing customers over this. Not going to lose, is actually losing right now customers. In todays fast paced world, waiting is not an option and the longer they stay silent the more irreperble damage is being done to their reputation.

Yea which why me3 already out sold me2 and me1.

[GBGriffin]

 

lockdown51 wrote...

Tsantilas wrote...

The game has been out officially since Monday (Thursday for Europe). Give it some time guys. I doubt they'll ignore the public outcry. If we don't get a patch/dlc, then at the very least we can expect a statement at some point.

Mark my words, Bioware is losing customers over this. Not going to lose, is actually losing right now customers. In todays fast paced world, waiting is not an option and the longer they stay silent the more irreperble damage is being done to their reputation.

Heh, they lost them when GAME dropped the pre-orders. I know some people didn't run out and pick up another copy after that.

TheLostGenius wrote...

THey are gaining more customers than they are losing them.

I think this remains to be seen. The sales and numbers so far are mostly pre-orders, and understandably so. It was hyped to be a great end to the series.

I want to see future sales and numbers.

[bluewolv1970]

I am fairly certain DLC sales will be impacted...

[BrunoBerg]

Yeah they aren't going to loose any sales because of this. And to be perfectly honest, I don't wish they would either. The game overall was extremely good, it was just the ending that was really stupid and cheap. I do not regret buying the game and I do not regret playing it. That said, it would be nice to see BioWare/EA actually care about their franchise/fanbase enough to make some sort of improvement, or at least deliver one hell of an explanation for the whole thing.

Mass Effect is something they should all be very proud of. The ending simply didn't live up to their own standard, it was nowhere close. As I've said earlier, I'm fine with Shepard dying along with my whole team. I'm fine with the majority of the civilization dying, we know the reapers are immensly strong machines and wouldn't go down without sacrifices. It's the lack of explanation that bothers me the most. Having my squad teleporting from earth onto the Normandy also added a major plothole that I can't understand was overlooked and added to that feeling of "What the did I actually do? What the hell is going on?"

[BrunoBerg]

[quote]TheLostGenius wrote...

THey are gaining more customers than they are losing them. [/quote]

I think this remains to be seen. The sales and numbers so far are mostly pre-orders, and understandably so. It was hyped to be a great end to the series.

I want to see future sales and numbers.

[/quote]

It should be noted that it is most probable that the majority of gamers won't pay much attention to forums and such, so I can't really see how a bad ending would ruin the sales. As for future DLC, I'm still kind of leaning towards that most people will simply buy the DLC regardless of what they thought of the ending, and what they think of BioWare in general after this.

[Adeph]

I haven't read a single review that criticised the ending, did any of them? All I see in reviews is talk of a 'satisfying end to the trilogy'

I'm honestly quite embarrassed by how much time I've spent trawling the internet trying to salvage some meaning from the ending but all there is are wild theories.

[Mitra]

Speaking from my heart, and as a loyal fan of Bioware work so far, I really must say that they will get 0$ from me from now on if they decide to go playing mute over voices of all of us.

We are humans, pure emotional beings with their own consciousness and moral bars. We are not a "switch" which they can just press ON or OFF.

Sure, if/when they give us this ending fix, they can give us peace and we will be thankful.
But it has to be understandable that this epic fight that is happening now has a great tendency for being reported in video gaming history as something that has happened on world wide scale with biggest number of individual participants ever.
And imagine, if BioWare decide to hear us and finally give us the green light, they too will be remembered as a great company who really cares about biggest loyal army of fans ever, and much more, if they give us this fix for free, people will see that they do really care and that could be the best ever written commercial for all their future products! So yes, we all (BioWare and us) can profit the most from this situation!

I sure would like them to see this on the same way.
If they really do it so, given by the moral ethic that lives within me, my trust in them will remain.
At the end of the day, we are all just humans, humans who make mistakes no matter under what name or color, but mistakes can be repaired, replaced with something even better.
And to be honest, the only thing that can't be fix is actual death.

If they choose death (as death of complete ME franchise which is pretty alive at this moment) as their final statement (in which they can say whatever they want), my moral ethics and my personal character dictates me to go my separate way and find another place where I can find my happiness.

BioWare created Mass Effect and all they got was real Mass Effect. I sure hope that they will see the biggest potential that can be born from this, for the better future.

[idunhavaname]

Adeph wrote...

I haven't read a single review that criticised the ending, did any of them? All I see in reviews is talk of a 'satisfying end to the trilogy'

I'm honestly quite embarrassed by how much time I've spent trawling the internet trying to salvage some meaning from the ending but all there is are wild theories.

Well it's basically a spoiler if a reviewer talks about the ending be it good or bad.

[Wildhide]

bluewolv1970 wrote...

I am fairly certain DLC sales will be impacted...

I bought DA2, i was disappointed in it, never bought a DLC.  I decided to give ME3 a chance because it's a different team and I really enjoyed the series.  They let me down horribly with how badly done the endings were.  The utter disconnect from the narrative and rather blatant ending rip from Deus Ex is startling.

So, I gave them another chance.  Now I'm done being one of their customers.  There are other gaming studios out there, and ones that I have more appreciation for their current products and direction.  Bioware will become another EA cash machine producing lower quality entertainment, and I'll be playing other things.

Modifié par Wildhide, 11 mars 2012 - 01:41 .

[paynesgrey]

My prediction: "I understand your concerns, but trust us, we have some great stuff coming!"

[Achire]

It's a 25 to 40 hour game. Most reviewers don't have that kind of time to put into one game. They get paid peanuts and they have to churn out these reviews fast.

[Sashimi_taco]

JasonDaPsycho wrote...

The bioware we came to know is gone. It's just EA now. They'll throw a $10 ending DLC at us and tell us that they were listening.

At least they pretended.

I don't care. I'll pay 10 dollars for happiness. I don't care. I'll do anything. Anything.


Anything. Are you listening bioware? I'll do anything. I have no level of self respect when i comes to getting the endings I needed for this.  I hope you know what I'm trying to say. 

[Zourin]

The game is a 10/10, the ending drags it down horribly, spoiling not just itself, but all three games of the series.

I'm pretty sure 'taking earth back' doesn't translate into 'blow up the relay next to Earth'

[dragg44]

Interesting that Bioware stated that not everyone would be happy with the endings. I figured it meant that certain characters could not be "saved" unlike ME2 and thought that it made sense for a galaxy ending battle. I considered that they would include an ending where Shepard may die . . . like ME2 and thought that would be fine too. I enjoyed that Shepard could survive or not survive based on choices I made during the game.

However, I never expected endings that could only result in Shepard dying and leave the fate of the Normandy crew as an unknown. Honestly, it felt like a gut punch and made me wonder why I invested time, energy and "caring" into these characters. For a majority of games it really doesn't matter much because you never get to know much about the characters or have the opportunity to shape the direction of the story. I loved Mass Effect because it was so unique that you do become invested in the characters and their outcome.

Sadly, I don't believe I could ever invest that much time again into this type of game without worrying that the creators will pull a stunt like ME3. I've done that with books series that sucked me into the main characters and the author decided to kill off one of the mains or left things unexplained. I've never read another story published by that author again. So too will it be with Bioware.

ME3 is an enjoyable game but it wasn't a simple shoot them up game. And maybe that was the problem because if it was then I wouldn't have cared that much about the endings. Maybe if I hadn't played ME1 or ME2 it wouldn't have matter as much. But I did and got sucked into caring about the main characters and their outcome. And it's as much of a story as it is a game and now I'll never purchase another story made by it's author Bioware.

And I know some fellow gamers, friends and family that have decided against purchasing the game when they realized that the ending was so bleak and the choices made in ME wouldn't really matter much. They would rather be happy that their favorite characters survived intact at the end of ME2 - ignorance is bliss. Everyone makes choices and Bioware decided that destroying a loved character and leaving his/her buddies in limbo was a good decision. My choice is not to trust Bioware to pull another disheartening stunt in a future game.

[ace1221]

NEWSFLASH: Bioware is stalling for time so they can finish building their own crucible that erases everyone's memories concerning the Endings of ME3