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[Alamar2078]

k8ee wrote...

You know what's sad about this is that everyone loses. The endings have burned gamers so badly that even if they offer Omega DLC and claim that it will actually change the ending, how many people will take that risk? I bet a lot of people would sit around the BSN waiting to hear if it's worth while.

ME3 was the most amazing game I ever played, and I so wanted to play it again until the last few minutes broke my heart, destroyed my resolve and crushed any hope I ever had. Please BW, give me an ending DLC so that I can download other DLC and enjoy mass effect for months to come.

I'm pretty much with you on this one.  IIRC I had 9 various playthoughs that I wanted to try with different combinations of class, LI, Paragon/Renegade.  At this point I don't see any reason to bother putting the disc back in the XBox

[kramerfan86]

What is the point of a DLC? More readiness still gets you shoehorned into the same three endings no matter what, why bother?

[Foulpancake]

Buying any DLC except a new ending pack would be like buying long expired milk. Ya you could drink it if you wanted, but its going to be sour and probably make you sick in the end

[Pamine]

I certainly wouldn't buy a DLC for this pile of crap, and I'm glad I didn't get the day one DLC (which is another big kick in the crotch btw) so at the most I'd just go watch it on YouTube if they actually fixed the ending.

[nitefyre410]

k8ee wrote...

You know what's sad about this is that everyone loses. The endings have burned gamers so badly that even if they offer Omega DLC and claim that it will actually change the ending, how many people will take that risk? I bet a lot of people would sit around the BSN waiting to hear if it's worth while.

ME3 was the most amazing game I ever played, and I so wanted to play it again until the last few minutes broke my heart, destroyed my resolve and crushed any hope I ever had. Please BW, give me an ending DLC so that I can download other DLC and enjoy mass effect for months to come.

 


and this is what so madding about this... they could have done some different endings.. all from Heroic Sacrifice to  Earn you happying.. 

damn it is should talking about how I was going Krya Shepards playthough different .. not about how don't even what to look at the game again. 

*flips table* 

[Slappy Ya Face]

Why would I want to expand upon a hopeless and lonely story? I can hardly look at my game disc right now, much less put it in and go on another adventure with my doomed friends.

[toots1221]

I doubt I would buy any pre-ending DLCs if the endings aren't fixed. Like everyone else said what would be the point? Same bleak ending is waiting for you. I'm sad because part of me so wants to play this game again but everytime I try all I can think is, this is pointless.

[Foulpancake]

Alamar2078 wrote...

k8ee wrote...

You know what's sad about this is that everyone loses. The endings have burned gamers so badly that even if they offer Omega DLC and claim that it will actually change the ending, how many people will take that risk? I bet a lot of people would sit around the BSN waiting to hear if it's worth while.

ME3 was the most amazing game I ever played, and I so wanted to play it again until the last few minutes broke my heart, destroyed my resolve and crushed any hope I ever had. Please BW, give me an ending DLC so that I can download other DLC and enjoy mass effect for months to come.

I'm pretty much with you on this one.  IIRC I had 9 various playthoughs that I wanted to try with different combinations of class, LI, Paragon/Renegade.  At this point I don't see any reason to bother putting the disc back in the XBox

I'm right here with both of ya. I WANT to play more...but the endings just broke my heart and there is just no desire to do it again

[jestermarcus]

Lets all be honest, what is the point of buying DLC for a game you don't actually want to beat again? I have no urge to jump into the series at all anymore. I don't want to replay from the beginning, I don't want to play part 3 again, even for a new mission or what not, and I don't want to play multiplayer, nothing. They have taken all of the joy out of it. Why play when you know you fail no matter what?

[Unit-Alpha]

Yeah, I have no urge to buy the DLC as there's no real reason for it.

[k8ee]

Failure to give the gamers a sense of achievement is bad business. We play for the reward, if there is no reward there is no replay value. Without replay value, DLC becomes pointless... in the end EA/BW are out money and the gamers are out passion for an expansive universe that held such promise.

DLC ending patch is good business BW. Get on it.

[LeNub]

Just finished my first playthrough and I absolutely loved the game. Not once did I feel disappointed in anything. (Aside from the overly lackluster 'romance' between MaleShep and Miranda, but that's not the point.) That's when I came to the 'ending'. It destroyed the game for me completely.

All endings are just about the complete same thing, save for a bloody different colour the energy surge has. The -only- reason one of the "three choices" is slightly acceptable is cause that one actually has a nice ending for Joker.

I'll still go for a second playthrough, but somewhat fear I won't bother continueing halfway through it cause in the end all your efforts turns out completely pointless anyway. They really dropped the ball on that one, BIGTIME. I can only assume most people just like me have several playthroughs of both ME1 and ME2 at the ready to enjoy every aspect and angle of ME3. For all that effort, all those countless hours we deserve a hell of a lot more than than piece of *beep* ending we're giving. But in all honesty.. I doubt they'll do anyhing about it
Ending a fantastic (For me by far my favourite) trilogy story in such a way pretty much says you don't give a damn about the wants of your costumers. In my eyes anyhow.

[Sywen]

I wont buy a dlc with the current endings. I can't even replay any of the games again.

[BrotherFluffy]

I'm not buying any ME3 dlc until they fix the endings. Otherwise, what's the point? Help Aria so she can get stranded on Omega?

[k8ee]

BrotherFluffy wrote...

I'm not buying any ME3 dlc until they fix the endings. Otherwise, what's the point? Help Aria so she can get stranded on Omega?

Exactly. Spend two hours doing that with the knowledge that it's all for nothing.

[LeNub]

BrotherFluffy wrote...

I'm not buying any ME3 dlc until they fix the endings. Otherwise, what's the point? Help Aria so she can get stranded on Omega?

You know, now that I think of it that's a very good point you're making. With every single Mass Relay destroyed how the hell is anyone going to get their resources? I can only assume every race was dependant on transports etc all over the galaxy. How will they survive now without sufficient food transports and the like?

Yay, Reapers won't kill the galaxy. Hunger will. >>

[wilji1090]

Shoot, I haven't even finished the game for the first time, I do not see a point in picking it up knowing that I get to ruin the galaxy with three different colors. If there was a happy ending, I wouldn't even be here, I'd be working hard for that ending... To me, these endings are perfect if you didn't have enough assets or get a key component of the Crucible... I could forgive the introduction of the star kid if there was a happy ending sort of thing...

Someone brought up Fallout 3. I'd like to also make mention of some things from that game that would have worked well here. First off, the ending epilogues, Fallout gave you an epilogue for the fate of every faction you came across and all the people you met. If there was something worth noting, like the fates of all the crew based on what you did and the galaxy as a whole? That would be fan-freaking-tastic, I may not necessarily LIKE the ending, but at least I'd get closure from it.

Raven Rock brings up another point I'd have liked to have seen in ME3. In Raven Rock, you meet President Eden and have a pleasant little chat regarding the usage of Project Purity. You can also sit there and explain the failed logic in Eden's plan and even convince him to self-destruct the Raven Rock base. Let me emphasize this, a Wastelander was perfectly capable of convincing an AI computer that was the PRESIDENT of the Enclave to self destruct because his plan was made of fail. Shepard told Sovereign and Harbinger both to stuff it right? So, why would they not give Shepard the option of having a genuine philosophical debate with the Catalyst?

The whole problem I see could be fixed like how Broken Steel fixed the inability to have Fawkes activate the project due to his radioactive immunity. Simply put more choices into the ending, have Shepard tell the Catalyst the choices offered aren't good enough, or have there be a crucial part of the Crucible that is NEEDED for the thing to fire without blowing apart the Relays....

[thesnake777]

I have no desire to play me3 again or the other two.
for both of those games the second i beat it I loaded up another game.
I had four shepards set up to go through ME3 and I had been planning in the future to do another full play through from the first
now I'm just done... if i cant bring myself to play any of the games again im out for the DLC

[Faraborne]

k8ee wrote...

There are many who are upset about the endings, but isn't it in EA and BW's best interest to fix this?

If people can't stand the endings, it kills the replay value. Putting hours into a game, especially in this case, gives the player the expectation of an emotional payoff. When there isn't one, there is little to no desire to try again for an even better outcome. Our play time is an investement to save what we love, the galaxy as it is, and for some of us with Shepard still in it.

If everyone is feeling destroyed by the ending, how can they hope to sell any DLC? Why should I have any desire to go to Omega and fight off Cerberus if it makes no difference in the end? Sure I love Aria... but is it enough for me to keep playing? I'm not sure.
(I don't actually know if there is an Omega DLC,  but it makes sense.)

What I'm getting at is if EA/BW patch the endings, giving people the actual choice to finish Shepard's story the way they want, which is what the game has always been about, they will sell MORE DLC. People will have hope again and will buy more DLC in the coming year. If they don't fix the endings, their DLC will fail because no one will be willing to invest the time into three guaranteed hollow endings.

In the end, fixing the endings means more money for EA and BW in the long run.

EDIT: Please note i am referring to them selling more pre-me3 ending DLC.

Excellent point OP.  I wouldn't waste time and money on something that I have absolutely no desire to play considering the ending.  Even a DLC in which you can fully expand your romance with LI would be meaningless becaus apparently Ashley is now making babies with Joker on jungle planet (really pissed me off).  So the answer is: yes!  I hope EA reads this because it would be a brilliant business strategy and even marketing strategy for Bioware/EA.  Consider how they could release a ME3 special edition marketed as including the "Alternate Ending."  How many great movies have done that?  I Am Legend stands out the most for me.  Thinking with smart business strategies, I think it would be a brilliant (devious but I'm ok with that) strategy to market an alternate ending.

Furthermore, with their current assumed plan to keep the ending and just release DLC, based upon overwhelming fan feedback they would not even come close to breaking even on any DLC.  Rather, they would lose alot.  Think about it: as it stands based upon multiple polls, only 2% of ME3 buyers are interested in DLC.  That is a losing percentage.  However, if they fixed the ending, the percentage would likely increase to 65% at worst (assuming that alot of people that bought the game never finish it, some people wouldn't care and still won't buy it, and some people simply don't have the money to spend.)

Modifié par Faraborne, 10 mars 2012 - 08:53 .

[k8ee]

The more I think about, the more obvious it becomes that the ending kills the replay value. All those side missions? no benefit. Which is of course applied to DLC - no benefit to the overall outcome.

I don't know how they plan on making money on the DLC and extending the life of the SP and MP games if there is no satisfaction in the ending.

[Meshulik]

If the ending of the game will be only for what they have now, I'll more never buy any product created by Bioware (pardon my bad English).

[JimJohnJim]

One of the reasons I was able to do so many playthroughs of ME1 and ME2 was because the endings were just that good. Its the reason why I got additional DLC, because I knew I would enjoy them and that they would add more depth to the story. Now, besides Javik that I got with the CE, I don't really think I'm going to pay for more DLC.. because no matter what, the endings are just that bad. I cant even bring my self to play though ME3 a second time, because as I said, the endings are just that bad. It totally takes out any motivation to invest any more money into this product.

But well put OP.. well put.. This was my thought exactly. How do they expect to sell us DLC based off these endings.. Especially with all the apathy or dissatisfaction towards them. Yes, there are a few who like it, and good for them. But when you step back, look at the polls, the topics.. etc.. The community has spoken. The endings blow, and because of that they are not interested in DLC.

It would be in their best interests to fix the endings, it might make them look silly, but in the long run they regain lost support from this and Dragon Age. It would rub off onto EA, making them look good.. There are just so many positives in the long run. Money makes profit, but you cant buy reputation. I believe many of us bought the game (including myself) despite all the negativity because we thought BioWare was better than this. They were one of those few developers with this kind of loyalty. But they lost it with ME3, the endings broke the back of their loyal customers unwavering support. If they do not fix the endings.. they may never get it back.

Modifié par JimJohnJim, 10 mars 2012 - 08:52 .

[SandTrout]

Another excellent explanation on why the current endings are bad for everyone, BioWare included.

[Hizuka]

k8ee wrote...

You know what's sad about this is that everyone loses. The endings have burned gamers so badly that even if they offer Omega DLC and claim that it will actually change the ending, how many people will take that risk? I bet a lot of people would sit around the BSN waiting to hear if it's worth while.

ME3 was the most amazing game I ever played, and I so wanted to play it again until the last few minutes broke my heart, destroyed my resolve and crushed any hope I ever had. Please BW, give me an ending DLC so that I can download other DLC and enjoy mass effect for months to come.

This.  100% this.

[MzAdventure]

I agree - they won't sell me anything more since I DONT CARE anymore.  Why do I want pre-missions, etc if the galaxy as I know it is going down anyway.

I played ME1 & 2 every which way possible, more hours than I can count (or am comfortable admitting to...)  I had 7 different Shepards cued up to play through ME3, and now no freaking desire to do so.  I won't be playing any of the ME stuff again unless I'm provided with some reason to care.

Not only was the payoff not worth it, but it killed my interest.  Think "Aliens" after watching Alien 3... once you know Newt and Hicks don't survive... it renders the whole movie moot.

I would've happily thrown many, many more dollars at the whole ME universe.  But not now.

It's fixable, but I'm going to be slow to trust efforts like this in the future.