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[cerberus1701]

ME3 is VASTLY superior in gameplay and story.

It's only in the last 10 minutes that ME3 ruins itself.

[KevTheGamer]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

KevWestBeats.com wrote...

CrasVox wrote...

I still think ME2 is the best game of all time.

ME1 was great. I enjoyed it very much. Played it through many times. But when ME2 came out, and I was playing it, it knocked me away. It was amazing. Fantastic. Great characters, great locations, great story. And great replay value.

ME3....had some great moments, but on the whole, does not match up with ME2.

thats kind of where I am at except that I only played ME 1 2 or 3 times maybe. I played ME 2 like 8 and I don't see myself finishing my imports to give each shepards story's an ending. What's the point they all die anyway.

I don't think Shepard dying is what has most people riled up.  I think it is losing the relay network and lack of epilogue that bugs most people.

I would have loved to see a good epilogue. its like great the reapers are gone.... now what? what hapened next? i hope that we see a me 4 for that but with this ending I don't know that I want to especially when the options at the end are so drastic and it would make creating a new game based on the old choices very difficult.

[gooberfish311]

When you factor in all the DLC yeah, ME2 was better, but comparing Vanilla ME2 to ME3 sans the ending, I like ME3 more. It's just that damned ending.

[DarkBladeX98]

I still miss my Mass 1 Mako runs. ;(

[JamesYHT]

I think for now, it is the best....may be it will always stay there.

[The Real Bowser]

If we ignore the terrible ending of ME3, I like ME3 infinitely more than ME2, and ME2 was a great game.  I just never really cared for the never-ending side stories of ME2.

Modifié par The Real Bowser, 15 mars 2012 - 05:12 .

[Danilo Luis]

ME 2 is just the best game ever made.

[KevTheGamer]

Danilo Luis wrote...

ME 2 is just the best game ever made.

agreed. in my top 3 at least

[clonedoriginzero]

if you ignore the ending, i think ME3 is the best actually.
easily the best dialogue and writing, that and the plot is consistant throughout the story.

ME2 sorta puts the plot on hold constantly for you to deal with your squadmates completely unrelated side-stories. kinda screwed up the pacing of that game to all hell. you sorta lose sight of the whole "collector threat" when you spend 10+ hours never dealing with them at all rofl.

[Chromie]

Danilo Luis wrote...

ME 2 is just the best game ever made.

That...is sad.

cerberus1701 wrote...

ME3 is VASTLY superior in gameplay and story.

It's only in the last 10 minutes that ME3 ruins itself.

 

This is how I feel. Granted I still would like a lot more sidemissions. 

Modifié par Skelter192, 15 mars 2012 - 06:24 .

[SouperTrooper]

If I could take the action from ME2 and put that in ME1 that would be the perfect game. ME 3 had a good balance but didn't beat the other two in their strong points.

[Lost Cipher]

Mass Effect 2 was a phenomenal video game. The Vindicator, Avenger, and the Mattock still had their scopes. The gameplay was spot on, the story a fun thrill ride into the darker side of the galaxy. And an enemy who I actually wanted to defeat. Mercs, guns, alien babes, and an unfortunate terminator/bender reference... it had it all.

Modifié par Lost Cipher, 15 mars 2012 - 06:34 .

[John T 655]

I totally agree ME2 is the best of the series. ME1 was great but the combat was a little weak, ME3 was brilliant up until the last 5 mins. ME2 had great combat and introduced some of the best characters of the series. Also LOTSB was amazing.

[Faust1979]

I would have agreed at one point but now my favorite Mass Effect game is part 3

[KingZayd]

Best game yes. By far? no.
Best story goes to Mass Effect.
Both are far better than ME3 though.

[ME859]

Before I played Mass Effect 2 and I would brainstorm about my favorite games of all time it would usually be a lot of shifting among the top games. "well 'X Game' had this, but this game was more that." Games like Metal Gear Solid, Shenmue, Resident Evil 2, Resident Evil Remake, Final Fantasy VII, Final Fantasy X, Heavy Rain, the list goes on, lot of great games in my time. It's easy to change my mind about the order and usually I would end up employing on the fence rankings like 1a 1b, etc.

By the time I completed my 2nd or 3rd play through of Mass Effect 2 there was no question in my mind about the best game I had ever played and to this day I'm still hard pressed to even consider putting a game above ME2. The fact that I can still start a play-through today and enjoy it more then first play throughs on recent AAA titles is mind blowing.  Never has a game struck that perfect combination for me of being open world enough to take on the game how I saw fit yet provide enough depth to keep me captivated.  

Usually games that are very open world have shallow stories and character development while games with deep stories are usually linear to the point where it's hard to play through them again.  It's extremely difficult to strike that perfect balance but thats what ME2 did.

Doesn't have to be Mass Effect but I can only hope that one day another game comes along that makes me reconsider ME2 as my top choice.  So when the OP says Mass Effect 2 is the best in the series I go one step further and call it my undisputed, leave everything else in the dust, best game of all time.  

Modifié par ME859, 26 janvier 2013 - 12:28 .

[Bizantura]

I like the gameplay from ME2 and 3. ME2 because attacking your enemy with sniper riffle is grand. ME3 being a pure soldier is a challenge. Being a biotic is just plain fun in both. Using all the builds possibilities is the best way to get to now all your squadmates, especially the ones your initially not fond of.

Because of that I like ME2 as much as ME3 despite its story faults.

[Aaleel]

ME1 is still by far my favorite. Had the best atmosphere, antagonists, story, my favorite squadmates and most of my favorite moments are from ME1.

One of my top 5 favorite games all time. Second favorite Bioware game after DA:O.

[Aaleel]

cerberus1701 wrote...

ME3 is VASTLY superior in gameplay and story.

It's only in the last 10 minutes that ME3 ruins itself.

I thought the story was questionable from the moment they said we've had scientists here for decades, but we just now found these plans for a superweapom lying around, and just in the nick of time to.

Then the whole the crucible is very complex, but the plans are written in a way that make them easy to understand, so building the crucible isn't as tough as we though.

Then ultimately the ending.

[EpicBoot2daFace]

Probably my favorite series of games.

[ME859]

clonedoriginzero wrote...

if you ignore the ending, i think ME3 is the best actually.
easily the best dialogue and writing, that and the plot is consistant throughout the story.

ME2 sorta puts the plot on hold constantly for you to deal with your squadmates completely unrelated side-stories. kinda screwed up the pacing of that game to all hell. you sorta lose sight of the whole "collector threat" when you spend 10+ hours never dealing with them at all rofl.

See though thats why ME2 was great, at least for me.  The focus was on character development.  The collector threat was just an excuse to put these colorful characters into situations where you not only learned about them but were given the potential to mold them in a way that you saw fit. Also with ME2 while the recruiting and loyalty missions can be considered tedious I thought they were just another great example of focusing on character development coupled with the fact that the player was given a decent amount of freedom to choose what order I completed them. To me just the ability to choose the order alone is a big part of ME2's replayability. 

With ME3 you go from one big mission to the next.  Earth -> Mars -> Genophage -> Quarians -> Cerberus.  And while you have access to side missions like Grissom Academy, Arrae (Jacob), etc they can easily feel disconnected from the main plot unlike the loyalty and recruiting missions which had a noticable impact on the Suicide Mission.  My point being ME3 despite being open world and offering more freedom then 99% of games can easily feel linear in the worst possible ways.  I also felt ME3 as a whole made character development a secondary priority focusing to much on the Reaper war, which might have been fine if we got to learn and interact more with the Reapers.  Autodialog didn't help things.    

Keep in mind Tuchanka and Rannoch blow away virutally every non-suicide mission in ME2 but ME2 has enough depth where for me even ignoring the endings I find myself hard pressed to rank ME3 above ME2 in everything but combat.

For me the perfect Mass Effect game would combines ME1's main conflict particularly since it had the best villan in Saren, ME2's focus on character development, and ME3's graphics and combat.  If Bioware could do that they would just, well we'd hold on to a copy of that game forever.

Modifié par ME859, 26 janvier 2013 - 12:48 .

[string3r]

What? The plot of ME2 was atrocious.

[dreamgazer]

Game? Maybe.

Dialogue? Eh.

Storytelling? No.

[10K]

Oh yes, ME2 was the pinnacle of the ME series. It had atmosphere, characters, and story. Everything about that game was a 10 for me. It's the only one I can go back to for a real ME fix.

[KevTheGamer]

KingZayd wrote...

Best game yes. By far? no.
Best story goes to Mass Effect.
Both are far better than ME3 though.

Is the story the only thing that's important here? To me the combat really makes it hard to enjoy ME 1 as much as I would like to buy I really do like the story of ME 1. I did a playthough of it on Tuesday and started ME 2 yesterday after finishing a ME 3 playthough 2 weeks ago and I still feel ME 2 is the best in the series. Better characters in ME 2, great combat but combat is better in ME 3, ME 2 has a much better ending than ME 1, ME 2 has better voice acting and graphics than ME 1. ME 3 is great too but many people hate the ending. I personally choose not to acknowledge the ending that ME 3 shipped with because the EC is amazing and really ended the trilogy on a great note for me. I would even argue that ME 3 is the end best in the series over ME 1 which imo only thrives in story and Saren is the best villian in the series.