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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

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Why is that? Some people were content with the storyline, some not. Some would just like more adequate dialog. All points are valid for those who have an interest in the character.


Because she's commiting suicide. Why is that a good example? You want Thane to commit suicide?


What I'm saying, what I have said in more detailed posts, is that is was the choices you had that determined what happened to other characters. If you wanted some characters to live or die, it all dependened on the course of action you took. If some players felt Thane's death was what fit the story, their choice. If some would have liked a choice in the matter, it also should have been a choice. Regardless, the interaction and dialogue between Shepard and Thane was inadequate. As well as the rest of the crews lack of mentioning him.

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Well, there are those of us who didn't romance Thane and are stopping by just to offer support.  I hope that's ok.

It doesn't matter whether it was my LI or not who got the shaft.  It's the goddamn principle of the thing that makes me angry.  It doesn't matter who I romanced or didn't romance, or what I did or did not like as a player.  It's the injustice of shafting a group of players simply because they didn't romance as popular of a character.  That's crappy, and it doesn't reflect well on the devs or the fanbase as a whole.  It implies that the devs don't care and that the fans only care about popular characters.

We might not be able to sway the devs, but we can prove that the fans are at least better than that.
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forthary wrote...

I would much rather see Thane's death be treated with more reaction with the crew than to bring Thane back.


This too. Garrus, Joker, EDI, Chakwas, Donnelly, Gabby, then at least the VS who Thane says he spoke to while in the hospital. The VS didn't know who Thane was before, but I'm sure they would find out afterwords and be appreciative that he played in some part protecting the Council.

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I am really starting to resent people who didn't romance Thane coming into this thread and leaving their 2 cents. Unless you picked Thane as your main LI, ya are not going to fully understand. Read the posts, there is quite a few in here that makes valid points before responding. Let's not add more insult to injury. I'm glad ur LI survived and you didn't have to witness their death, in a cold stoic way like we did. We are not whining for no reason. I just think having a really good romance like everyone else did isn't much to ask. After all, we did pay for the game like you did.

The thread title is about the poor treatment of Thane not the Thane romance. The OP is about several things including but not limited to the romance.

Since this isn't a romance thread and only one of the reasons (while it may be a big one) to be upset about Thane's treatment is the romance, I don't see what the problem is with people who haven't romanced him having an opinion. And disagreeing with your complaints, valid though they may be, doesn't strike me as disrespectful.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Well, there are those of us who didn't romance Thane and are stopping by just to offer support.  I hope that's ok.

It doesn't matter whether it was my LI or not who got the shaft.  It's the goddamn principle of the thing that makes me angry.  It doesn't matter who I romanced or didn't romance, or what I did or did not like as a player.  It's the injustice of shafting a group of players simply because they didn't romance as popular of a character.  That's crappy, and it doesn't reflect well on the devs or the fanbase as a whole.  It implies that the devs don't care and that the fans only care about popular characters.

We might not be able to sway the devs, but we can prove that the fans are at least better than that.


Thanks for stopping by and it means a lot.  I agree with what you said and I wish some people would see the underlying issue.  It's not that he died, I can live with that.  It's how his romance was treated as compared to other ones.  We were told equal treatment, that we did not get.  Our lines barely differ from a friend only route and unlike others we did not have a choice.  With that being said, I fully threw my lot in to disagree with how Jacob's was handled even though I personally do not care for him.  His fans got shafted, he got someone pregnant and it didn't matter if you romanced him or not, it was the same outcome.  That is not equal treatment.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Well, there are those of us who didn't romance Thane and are stopping by just to offer support.  I hope that's ok.

It doesn't matter whether it was my LI or not who got the shaft.  It's the goddamn principle of the thing that makes me angry.  It doesn't matter who I romanced or didn't romance, or what I did or did not like as a player.  It's the injustice of shafting a group of players simply because they didn't romance as popular of a character.  That's crappy, and it doesn't reflect well on the devs or the fanbase as a whole.  It implies that the devs don't care and that the fans only care about popular characters.

We might not be able to sway the devs, but we can prove that the fans are at least better than that.

Ah, I appreciate this ^^ Too often do I feel like people brush off Thane's mistreatment because "well, his death was cool." Can you imagine the outrage if Liara died and no one mourned her? Clear favoritism <_<
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Levvi wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Well, there are those of us who didn't romance Thane and are stopping by just to offer support.  I hope that's ok.

It doesn't matter whether it was my LI or not who got the shaft.  It's the goddamn principle of the thing that makes me angry.  It doesn't matter who I romanced or didn't romance, or what I did or did not like as a player.  It's the injustice of shafting a group of players simply because they didn't romance as popular of a character.  That's crappy, and it doesn't reflect well on the devs or the fanbase as a whole.  It implies that the devs don't care and that the fans only care about popular characters.

We might not be able to sway the devs, but we can prove that the fans are at least better than that.

Ah, I appreciate this ^^ Too often do I feel like people brush off Thane's mistreatment because "well, his death was cool." Can you imagine the outrage if Liara died and no one mourned her? Clear favoritism <_<


Exactly. Remember how the Miranda fans were a few weeks ago when they thought she'd die and they couldn't stop it? What do you think this place would look like if, instead of Thane, it was Tali? Or Garrus?
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utaker1988 wrote...

 It's how his romance was treated as compared to other ones.  We were told equal treatment, that we did not get.  Our lines barely differ from a friend only route and unlike others we did not have a choice.  With that being said, I fully threw my lot in to disagree with how Jacob's was handled even though I personally do not care for him.  His fans got shafted, he got someone pregnant and it didn't matter if you romanced him or not, it was the same outcome.  That is not equal treatment.


To be entirely honest, there's rarely equal treatment of the party members in BioWare games.  Leading NPCs (Alistair, Morrigan, Varric, Anders, Jaheira, Ash, Liara, Kaidan, etc.) tend to get more dialogue, more plot-integrated romances, and higher star power VAs.  It was true of Miranda and Jacob too in ME2.

It's more about getting a satisfying arc to the party member's story IMO.  Every character should get at least enough screentime and dialogue to provide that arc.  Thane and Jacob's presences in ME3 simply didn't have that, and that's what's so obnoxious about the whole situation.

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OUTRAGE!

*cough* I've stated it elsewhere and will again, but Garrus and Thane are my favorite LIs. Garrus because he's your bro, even if he's not particularly attractive to me, and Thane because he was designed to be woman candy and damnit, in my case it worked.

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I am really starting to resent people who didn't romance Thane coming into this thread and leaving their 2 cents. Unless you picked Thane as your main LI, ya are not going to fully understand. Read the posts, there is quite a few in here that makes valid points before responding. Let's not add more insult to injury. I'm glad ur LI survived and you didn't have to witness their death, in a cold stoic way like we did. We are not whining for no reason. I just think having a really good romance like everyone else did isn't much to ask. After all, we did pay for the game like you did.

The thread title is about the poor treatment of Thane not the Thane romance. The OP is about several things including but not limited to the romance.

Since this isn't a romance thread and only one of the reasons (while it may be a big one) to be upset about Thane's treatment is the romance, I don't see what the problem is with people who haven't romanced him having an opinion. And disagreeing with your complaints, valid though they may be, doesn't strike me as disrespectful.


The post she was responding to was from someone who came in here and insulted us. I doubt he even read what Visii wrote. He just saw the title and thought we were complaining about nothing.
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I don’t understand all the negativity surrounding Thane’s death. His romance with Shepard was beautiful, and both knew it couldn’t last, but they chose each other anyways. For him to die from wounds that he received helping his love is really a noble thing. It’s heartbreaking to watch him die, but even his last words were for his siha. That is love.
Thane preferred to die fighting for the good of the galaxy than from a disease.
I don’t see anything wrong with that.


Thank you. I think that is (mostly) what I've been trying to say all along (and obviously doing a poor job of). I romanced Thane... once, I think, in my previous ME2 playthoughs. I always thought he was wondeful, but never could bring myself to "cheat" on my ME LI. AFTER playing ME3, I find myself with the distinct urge to go back and always romance him, because I personally didn't feel cheated by his relationship in this game at all - I thought it was actually really beautiful and well done. Did it have flaws? Sure. Would it have been nice if it had been a little more deep/detailed? Sure. But what's there is beautiful, and I don't think the fact that it's similar to friendShep is that big of a deal, actually. I think it just kind of suggests that Shepard is important to Thane no matter what the official status of their relationship.

I'm sorry so many people feel cheated by the way the romance ended, I really am. But I think that maybe part of the problem is that you're letting what you hoped would be there stop you from appreciating that what's there is still lovely and valid. That's all. I hope I haven't offended or upset anyone in trying to make my point(s); that wasn't my intention. And, again, I'm sorry that something you all obviously feel very deeply about didn't transpire as you'd hoped.

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Hadeedak wrote...

OUTRAGE!

*cough* I've stated it elsewhere and will again, but Garrus and Thane are my favorite LIs. Garrus because he's your bro, even if he's not particularly attractive to me, and Thane because he was designed to be woman candy and damnit, in my case it worked.


I think it worked in a lot of our cases. It definitely did in mine.

Throwing my two cents in, even though I'm probably going to repeat everything everyone else has said.

Thane had a very significan character arc in ME2, romanced or not, but especially romanced. He went from basically suicidal, to wanting to live, and if romanced, to allowing himself to love again. In ME3 he is nothing but a bit player, a flat, two dimensional waste of space, basically. He has next to no role in the plot, and may as well have been some random NPC like the asari and krogan couple from ME2 (I found them, or her, in the Presidium Commons, thought it was a nice touch).

I romanced him. In fact, I had a hell of a time creating characters who didn't. But now that I put aside Margurite's PT after his death, and started on my Garrusmance, I can definitely say there is next to no difference. In fact, the only difference there is  is the one dialogue option, which makes Shepard sound like a sex-crazed ****. They took what was probably the only truly mature romance option (imo) from first two games and made it sound like a fling.

Thane himself is now back to stoic, despite being romanced. The only real response we get from him is after Shepard basically molests him in the middle of the hospital. That is the only time he becomes something of himself, the way he was at the end of ME2.

I have to admit, I loved the prayer when he died. I thought it was a beautiful sentiment, right up until I found out that it happens to everyone. The players who romanced Thane have been left out in the cold, despite all the little hints towards a cure we were given throughout ME2 and it's DLCs.

They wrote Kolyat badly too. For a romanced Shepard, there is no need for an introduction. Thane would likely have told Kolyat about his relationship with Shepard. For a Shepard who is friends with Thane, there is no need for an introduction. She would remember that he had a chile. For Shepards who took the Renegade option... well, I suppose there could be need since Shepard shoots people on almost an hourly basis, but overall there was no need for Kolyat to reintroduce himself.

As for Thane's death, well, no npcs commenting (except the bastard who killed him), no contact from Kolyat (for romanced Shepards), and especially no emotional reaction from Shepard, well, Thane's back to being a random NPC. It's not even suitable for a non-romanced Shepard. I'm not touching the scene itself, because I think it was rather in-character for Thane to go head-on into battle despite his terminal illness (to protect either his son or his love, or both, depending on romance option obviously), but the reactions afterwards were bloody terrible. Granted we knew this would happen, but it shouldn't have.

There, that's my two... no, ten... cents worth. Maybe if we scream loud enough they will hear us and respond. Threats to take hostages or burn Casey's house down didn't work (though they may have been becaue we didn't really mean it, thinking they would be smart enough to know that this would have been a very bad idea. Guess we were wrong).
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Thank you. I think that is (mostly) what I've been trying to say all along (and obviously doing a poor job of). I romanced Thane... once, I think, in my previous ME2 playthoughs. I always thought he was wondeful, but never could bring myself to "cheat" on my ME LI. AFTER playing ME3, I find myself with the distinct urge to go back and always romance him, because I personally didn't feel cheated by his relationship in this game at all - I thought it was actually really beautiful and well done. Did it have flaws? Sure. Would it have been nice if it had been a little more deep/detailed? Sure. But what's there is beautiful, and I don't think the fact that it's similar to friendShep is that big of a deal, actually. I think it just kind of suggests that Shepard is important to Thane no matter what the official status of their relationship.

I'm sorry so many people feel cheated by the way the romance ended, I really am. But I think that maybe part of the problem is that you're letting what you hoped would be there stop you from appreciating that what's there is still lovely and valid. That's all. I hope I haven't offended or upset anyone in trying to make my point(s); that wasn't my intention. And, again, I'm sorry that something you all obviously feel very deeply about didn't transpire as you'd hoped.


The romance being nearly identical to friendShep doesn't suggest Thane is important to Shepard, it suggests that the writers ran out of time, or resources or something and sacrificed the Thane romance (and all the other ME2 romance content, while I'm at it) for the sake of others (Liara/Garrus/Tali, Cortez, Traynor).

It wouldn't have been nice, it was necessary for the romance to be more deep and detailed because Thane already wasn't a full time squadmate, because this is the last game in the series; not only we will never see these characters again, they weren't giving us any other option but to see this flawed, shallow scene.

It's not lovely and valid to see the exact same death scene other Shepard's did who weren't half as invested in the character. We're not just upset that there wasn't a way to save him (though there should have been since nearly everyone else is afforded that opportunity but Thane) we're upset that the chance to save him was taken away precisely because they thought they could do an awesome, touching death scene and failed at both it and the aftermath.

I think part of the problem is that you're giving too much credit to what was done with obviously little effort.

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OP take the romance out of the thread title

Thane is more than just a romance option and all Thane fans should be allowed to comment on how little dialogue/mention there was for him.

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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

OP take the romance out of the thread title

Thane is more than just a romance option and all Thane fans should be allowed to comment on how little dialogue/mention there was for him.


Visii asked me to put it in, and since this is pretty much her thread you'll have to take that up with her.
I think all fans can come here and post. No one told them that they couldn't.

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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Visil take the romance out of the thread title

Thane is more than just a romance option and all Thane fans should be allowed to comment on how little dialogue/mention there was for him.



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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

utaker1988 wrote...

 It's how his romance was treated as compared to other ones.  We were told equal treatment, that we did not get.  Our lines barely differ from a friend only route and unlike others we did not have a choice.  With that being said, I fully threw my lot in to disagree with how Jacob's was handled even though I personally do not care for him.  His fans got shafted, he got someone pregnant and it didn't matter if you romanced him or not, it was the same outcome.  That is not equal treatment.


To be entirely honest, there's rarely equal treatment of the party members in BioWare games.  Leading NPCs (Alistair, Morrigan, Varric, Anders, Jaheira, Ash, Liara, Kaidan, etc.) tend to get more dialogue, more plot-integrated romances, and higher star power VAs.  It was true of Miranda and Jacob too in ME2.

It's more about getting a satisfying arc to the party member's story IMO.  Every character should get at least enough screentime and dialogue to provide that arc.  Thane and Jacob's presences in ME3 simply didn't have that, and that's what's so obnoxious about the whole situation.


i fully agree with this :)

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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Visil take the romance out of the thread title

Thane is more than just a romance option and all Thane fans should be allowed to comment on how little dialogue/mention there was for him.


and this!

there were things that were bad that didn't just pertain to his romance

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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

OP take the romance out of the thread title

Thane is more than just a romance option and all Thane fans should be allowed to comment on how little dialogue/mention there was for him.


Of course, Thane is more than just a romance option.

Only thing I've noticed 'round the forums here, is that if people didn't romance Thane, they freaking loved that he went out a hero, "like a boss". They don't/can't/won't see that his romance dialogue was woefully inadequate. I think it fits perfectly well for a Shepard that didn't romance Thane (except the whole, everyone in the universe forgot he existed bit, not a miniscule thing, mind).

We've already had several people show up and call us dumb or crazy for not loving the way we had to watch him die. Thus, the more specific title, to hopefully deter some of those people. The same thing has started to happen on the Jacob thread, which is just sickening, "Shepard can cheat, but Jacob can't? Wow, u guys want everything don't you?".

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...I'm working on the facebook page now.

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I don't think that "Shepard can cheat but Jacob can't" will ever be appropriate for me. How is being dead for 2 years, getting verbally assaulted by the person who then admits (Kaidan specifically) that they went out with some doctor in the hopes of trying to move on, constitute that there is a relationship to "cheat" on. Kaidan moved on, he admitted it, he may have had feelings still but he moved on. Relationship OVER. He can't trust her because she's with Cerberus, no trust, no relationship. So, why would any Shep who moved on be a cheater? I don't get it, I don't like it. I think it's in there for drama and it doesn't need to be. For giggles, I chose the Lie option to see what it said and Kaidan called me a cheater and called me out for lying because everyone knows. (See everyone knows, so therefore people do know that she had relationship with Thane). Needless to say, I reloaded and went with my original answer...the truth. I still didn't like the response, the tone of her voice made it seem like Thane was a rebound. Which he most certainly was not. The fails all over the place are making me crazy.
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Visii wrote...

lalaquen wrote...

Thank you. I think that is (mostly) what I've been trying to say all along (and obviously doing a poor job of). I romanced Thane... once, I think, in my previous ME2 playthoughs. I always thought he was wondeful, but never could bring myself to "cheat" on my ME LI. AFTER playing ME3, I find myself with the distinct urge to go back and always romance him, because I personally didn't feel cheated by his relationship in this game at all - I thought it was actually really beautiful and well done. Did it have flaws? Sure. Would it have been nice if it had been a little more deep/detailed? Sure. But what's there is beautiful, and I don't think the fact that it's similar to friendShep is that big of a deal, actually. I think it just kind of suggests that Shepard is important to Thane no matter what the official status of their relationship.

I'm sorry so many people feel cheated by the way the romance ended, I really am. But I think that maybe part of the problem is that you're letting what you hoped would be there stop you from appreciating that what's there is still lovely and valid. That's all. I hope I haven't offended or upset anyone in trying to make my point(s); that wasn't my intention. And, again, I'm sorry that something you all obviously feel very deeply about didn't transpire as you'd hoped.



The romance being nearly identical to friendShep doesn't suggest Thane is important to Shepard, it suggests that the writers ran out of time, or resources or something and sacrificed the Thane romance (and all the other ME2 romance content, while I'm at it) for the sake of others (Liara/Garrus/Tali, Cortez, Traynor).

It wouldn't have been nice, it was necessary for the romance to be more deep and detailed because Thane already wasn't a full time squadmate, because this is the last game in the series; not only we will never see these characters again, they weren't giving us any other option but to see this flawed, shallow scene.

It's not lovely and valid to see the exact same death scene other Shepard's did who weren't half as invested in the character. We're not just upset that there wasn't a way to save him (though there should have been since nearly everyone else is afforded that opportunity but Thane) we're upset that the chance to save him was taken away precisely because they thought they could do an awesome, touching death scene and failed at both it and the aftermath.

I think part of the problem is that you're giving too much credit to what was done with obviously little effort.



Right. Well, obviously there is no point in you and I continuing this
conversation, because we're just going to continue to disagree, and I
don't see how it's really helpful to either of us or to the thread in general. I was trying to apologize and to emphasize that while we have different opinions, I respect yours. I'm sorry that either I obviously didn't convey that well enough, or you're in no mood to accept it.

Maybe you're right and I am giving them too much credit. It comes down to an issue of necessary and sufficient conditions, I suppose. I have said repeatedly that I feel more could've been done (and arguably should have), but I recognize that that is an entirely different thing than feeling that more was required for a satisfactory ending. But I also think, maybe, part of our disagreement is that we were just expecting/hoping for different things, and have slightly different views of the character(s). We obviously both have a lot of love for (and strong opinions regarding) the same character, and there's nothing wrong with that. I've found a way of handling/interpreting the relationship that I feel OK with. I hope you can find some way to do the same, because no one deserves to be so disappointed/unhappy with something important to them.

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Of course, Thane is more than just a romance option.

Only thing I've noticed 'round the forums here, is that if people didn't romance Thane, they freaking loved that he went out a hero, "like a boss". They don't/can't/won't see that his romance dialogue was woefully inadequate. I think it fits perfectly well for a Shepard that didn't romance Thane (except the whole, everyone in the universe forgot he existed bit, not a miniscule thing, mind).

We've already had several people show up and call us dumb or crazy for not loving the way we had to watch him die. Thus, the more specific title, to hopefully deter some of those people. The same thing has started to happen on the JAcob thread, which is just sickening, "Shepard can cheat, but Jacob can't? Wow, u guys want everything don't you?".


A few people have opinions you don't like. So what. I've notice a lot more people supporting more for Thane in general, whether they romanced him or not. To alienate fellow fans, tell them they're not a real Thane fan and will never understand all because they didn't romance Thane is wrong. Putting it in the title is making it worse, not to mention this makes the fans that did romance Thane look real bad (dumb and crazy).

Thane is an amazing character that deserves better than this.

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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

Visii wrote...
Of course, Thane is more than just a romance option.

Only thing I've noticed 'round the forums here, is that if people didn't romance Thane, they freaking loved that he went out a hero, "like a boss". They don't/can't/won't see that his romance dialogue was woefully inadequate. I think it fits perfectly well for a Shepard that didn't romance Thane (except the whole, everyone in the universe forgot he existed bit, not a miniscule thing, mind).

We've already had several people show up and call us dumb or crazy for not loving the way we had to watch him die. Thus, the more specific title, to hopefully deter some of those people. The same thing has started to happen on the JAcob thread, which is just sickening, "Shepard can cheat, but Jacob can't? Wow, u guys want everything don't you?".


A few people have opinions you don't like. So what. I've notice a lot more people supporting more for Thane in general, whether they romanced him or not. To alienate fellow fans, tell them they're not a real Thane fan and will never understand all because they didn't romance Thane is wrong. Putting it in the title is making it worse, not to mention this makes the fans that did romance Thane look real bad (dumb and crazy).

Thane is an amazing character that deserves better than this.




When did anyone say that if you didn't romance Thane you are not a real fan. Any and all fans of Thane are welcome to come here. It doesn't matter if you romanced him or not.

The problem comes from posters like the guy who called us dumb and crazy for no reason, and that was before romance was put in the title. He thought we should be happy with what we got and insulted us because we were not. I wouldn't call someone like that a fan.

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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

A few people have opinions you don't like. So what. I've notice a lot more people supporting more for Thane in general, whether they romanced him or not. To alienate fellow fans, tell them they're not a real Thane fan and will never understand all because they didn't romance Thane is wrong. Putting it in the title is making it worse, not to mention this makes the fans that did romance Thane look real bad (dumb and crazy).

Thane is an amazing character that deserves better than this.


I don't think I precisely said that people who aren't real Thane fans won't get it. What I meant was that people who didn't romance him have a different perspective.

Just like people who didn't romance Jacob have a different perspective. It didn't bother me on my Shepard that romanced Jack that Jacob found Brynn. But the Shepard that romanced Jacob? Big, huge issues there, with almost every line of dialogue.

People can come here and say they liked the romance all they like, I'm not going to shoot dissenters as they step over the threshold. But when they come here and say that they loved it and gloss over its many flaws and tell me that I was expecting too much and I had my priorities screwed up... well then, I'll speak my mind.

@ lalaquen,

Glad you've made your peace with it. Wish I could.

Modifié par Visii, 13 mars 2012 - 05:23 .