Visii wrote...
lalaquen wrote...
Thank you. I think that is (mostly) what I've been trying to say all along (and obviously doing a poor job of). I romanced Thane... once, I think, in my previous ME2 playthoughs. I always thought he was wondeful, but never could bring myself to "cheat" on my ME LI. AFTER playing ME3, I find myself with the distinct urge to go back and always romance him, because I personally didn't feel cheated by his relationship in this game at all - I thought it was actually really beautiful and well done. Did it have flaws? Sure. Would it have been nice if it had been a little more deep/detailed? Sure. But what's there is beautiful, and I don't think the fact that it's similar to friendShep is that big of a deal, actually. I think it just kind of suggests that Shepard is important to Thane no matter what the official status of their relationship.
I'm sorry so many people feel cheated by the way the romance ended, I really am. But I think that maybe part of the problem is that you're letting what you hoped would be there stop you from appreciating that what's there is still lovely and valid. That's all. I hope I haven't offended or upset anyone in trying to make my point(s); that wasn't my intention. And, again, I'm sorry that something you all obviously feel very deeply about didn't transpire as you'd hoped.
The romance being nearly identical to friendShep doesn't suggest Thane is important to Shepard, it suggests that the writers ran out of time, or resources or something and sacrificed the Thane romance (and all the other ME2 romance content, while I'm at it) for the sake of others (Liara/Garrus/Tali, Cortez, Traynor).
It wouldn't have been nice, it was necessary for the romance to be more deep and detailed because Thane already wasn't a full time squadmate, because this is the last game in the series; not only we will never see these characters again, they weren't giving us any other option but to see this flawed, shallow scene.
It's not lovely and valid to see the exact same death scene other Shepard's did who weren't half as invested in the character. We're not just upset that there wasn't a way to save him (though there should have been since nearly everyone else is afforded that opportunity but Thane) we're upset that the chance to save him was taken away precisely because they thought they could do an awesome, touching death scene and failed at both it and the aftermath.
I think part of the problem is that you're giving too much credit to what was done with obviously little effort.
I agree with Visii.
How are we supposed to be happy about what was done to Thane's 'romance' when the game doesn't even acknowledge it as one?
Shepard and Thane were seperated for 6 months without any means of communication.
She sees him again only to have him tell her his disease is in the final stage. This is the sole conversation we're given with him before the coup and it revolves around his impending death. The only thing to diferentiate the scene for players who romanced him are two kisses. Thane tells Shepard he wants to stay at the hospital. He's at peace. They always knew it would end, he says. Where is the Thane who wanted to make the most of his final days and not waste away in a hospital?
Next time we see him he's fighting Kai Leng while Shepard and crew watch uselessly from the sidelines. He ends up getting stabbed and Shepard barely seems to care beyond asking "is it bad?"
He gets left there while Shepard rushes off to save the day. When she gets back to the hospital he's dying. She stands there stoically for the duration until Thane dies. Does she get to show emotion? No. Does she get to tell him she loves him? No. Does she hold his hand? No. All she does is touch his face briefly after he's already dead. That's not unique to the romance. Whether you romance him or not, Shep touches his face. Whether you romanced him or not, you get the prayer.
Beyond Thane referring to Shepard as Siha there is no damn difference in that scene and there should have been if he was romanced! There is no closure in that scene! Nothing to suggest Thane was someone special to Shepard, someone she loved deeply.
Then you get back to the ship and people act like nothing happened. No one mentions him.
To add insult to injury, at the end of the game, when Shepard flashes back to the most important people in her life the spot that should be Thane's defaults to Liara. The final insult.
How is this in
any way satisfying or beautiful?
Modifié par Julia_xo, 13 mars 2012 - 06:19 .
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