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[Yermogi]

mnomaha wrote...

^^She's the smutty one. I just follow along...and smile.

SHE'S the smutty one? Need I remind you of the conversation concerning ridges?

[mnomaha]

Yermogi wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

^^She's the smutty one. I just follow along...and smile.

SHE'S the smutty one? Need I remind you of the conversation concerning ridges?

Oh please no...I'm at work. Wait...didn't Coldi start that.

[Visii]

Yermogi wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

^^She's the smutty one. I just follow along...and smile.

SHE'S the smutty one? Need I remind you of the conversation concerning ridges?

Ridges?

[mnomaha]

*covers ears* Potato chips!! Ridges potato chips!

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

Yermogi wrote...

mnomaha wrote...

^^She's the smutty one. I just follow along...and smile.

SHE'S the smutty one? Need I remind you of the conversation concerning ridges?

Oh please no...I'm at work. Wait...didn't Coldi start that.

 ...................pot...................kettle................black.

Luv ya mnomaha!


<ridges>

[Alidaen]

All spicy comments about Thane are welcome xDDDDD

[Twilight_Princess]

I do hope some thanemancers make it to Pax and voice the unfair treatment of male romances for femshep.

[coldwetn0se]

Alidaen wrote...

All spicy comments about Thane are welcome xDDDDD

Yea!!!! More smexy Thane.......

*Thane in Hallucination Form starts gyrating his hips to a spicy latin number, grabs a couple of clam shells......wut....to OOC??  Sheesh.....he's. in. hallucination. form. people.

EDIT
*grumble, grumble....stoopid typos....
<bastarts>

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 01 avril 2012 - 09:22 .

[Visii]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Alidaen wrote...

All spicy comments about Thane are welcome xDDDDD

Yea!!!! More smexy Thane.......

*Thane in Hallucination Form starts gyrating his hips to a spicy latin number, grabs a couple of clam shells......wut....to OOC??  Sheesh.....he's. in. hallucination. form. people.

EDIT
*grumble, grumble....stoopid typos....
<bastarts>

In that vein, I'd imagine Thane to be a really good dancer. So graceful and... >_> if I start I'll end up sounding like that enamoured Salarian that emails you after Thane's recruitment.

[Emzamination]

Thane's romance was similar to pulling the life support plug for me... would you rather he keep living a sick and tortured existence, suffering from his condition or let your man finally find some peace in the next life? It was bitter sweet imo

[mnomaha]

Visii wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

Alidaen wrote...

All spicy comments about Thane are welcome xDDDDD

Yea!!!! More smexy Thane.......

*Thane in Hallucination Form starts gyrating his hips to a spicy latin number, grabs a couple of clam shells......wut....to OOC??  Sheesh.....he's. in. hallucination. form. people.

EDIT
*grumble, grumble....stoopid typos....
<bastarts>

In that vein, I'd imagine Thane to be a really good dancer. So graceful and... >_> if I start I'll end up sounding like that enamoured Salarian that emails you after Thane's recruitment.

My head canon dictates that it was part of his training and he is indeed a very graceful dancer. Imagine slow dancing, bodies pressed tightly together, swaying to a slow sensual beat. *sigh*

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

Visii wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

Alidaen wrote...

All spicy comments about Thane are welcome xDDDDD

Yea!!!! More smexy Thane.......

*Thane in Hallucination Form starts gyrating his hips to a spicy latin number, grabs a couple of clam shells......wut....to OOC??  Sheesh.....he's. in. hallucination. form. people.

EDIT
*grumble, grumble....stoopid typos....
<bastarts>

In that vein, I'd imagine Thane to be a really good dancer. So graceful and... >_> if I start I'll end up sounding like that enamoured Salarian that emails you after Thane's recruitment.

My head canon dictates that it was part of his training and he is indeed a very graceful dancer. Imagine slow dancing, bodies pressed tightly together, swaying to a slow sensual beat. *sigh*

Ok.......all I saw in these two quotes was "vein" and "swaying"....

[Alidaen]

I just remembered that today I had a amazing dream about Thane (it was not hot, sorry). It was very sad but I loved it. I hate no able to speak English good, but if I knew I would tell you the dream! But it was very sad because he is died Y_Y (damn!)

PD: I think that this game really affected my brain...

Modifié par Alidaen, 01 avril 2012 - 09:51 .

[coldwetn0se]

Emzamination wrote...

Thane's romance was similar to pulling the life support plug for me... would you rather he keep living a sick and tortured existence, suffering from his condition or let your man finally find some peace in the next life? It was bitter sweet imo

I'm glad that you were happy with your me3 experience with Thane, but we obviously are not.  If you pay attention to the dialogue between Shep and Thane during the romance,  he was no longer at peace with his death.  He also had so much more to his character than an illness; assassin (in training since the age of six......kinda puts me in mind of Zevran), husband and later a widower, father to an estranged son. Soulful and spiritual.  Not afraid to disagree with Shepard but not an argumentative contrarian.

We were also given hints that a life extention/cure could be possible: in his medical report from Dr. Chakwas, it states he is a good canidate for a lung transplant.  Then the CDN report on medi-gel for the lungs.  Here's the report:


"A new technology is helping victims of the Vallum Blast breathe easier - literally. Researchers at U. Thierax are attacking the myriad of respiratory diseases caused by inhaling dust around the blast site. Dubbed "medi-gel for the lungs," the Eupulmos Device analyzes a patient's tissue or medicard record before adjusting its virally-delivered superdrugs to match the patient's genetic predispositions. After that, the mister sprays the aerosol into the patient's nasal passages and the drug is absorbed into the lungs. The mister can also deliver microsurgery machines to make non-invasive repairs to tissue and has a color-coded nozzle at each end with separate agent reservoirs for dextro and levo patients. Said one ER staffer, "The effect is incredible. In a year, the whole galaxy will be using these things. "

The Hanar have been working on a cure for some time, and he states this himself when you first meet him, but he says in the first dialogue on the Normandy, that he will most likely not live to see it.  However, if his life was extended by one of the means that I mentioned above ( also the Batarians are successfully growing replacement organs; this science/technology could be applied...possibly), he could possibly live to see that Hanar cure. (assuming there is a galaxy left standing...HA!)

I really hate the idea of anyone ill being defined by their illness.  In my 42 years I have seen family members and friends diagnosed with illness, some that turned out to be terminal.  This did NOT stop them from trying to live and trying to hope, and using all available means to them to try and fight their disease.  Thane's character is so much more than an illness, and I had every reason to hope that they would have honored that.

[Hisilome]

Hmmm...I know Thane and wet environments shouldn't mix, but is it really bad of me to think that that shower thing with Traynor-bad me, I went to Youtube a moment ago and found it by chance, my Shep didn't take the choice-would have been nice with Thane?

[mnomaha]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Thane's romance was similar to pulling the life support plug for me... would you rather he keep living a sick and tortured existence, suffering from his condition or let your man finally find some peace in the next life? It was bitter sweet imo

I'm glad that you were happy with your me3 experience with Thane, but we obviously are not.  If you pay attention to the dialogue between Shep and Thane during the romance,  he was no longer at peace with his death.  He also had so much more to his character than an illness; assassin (in training since the age of six......kinda puts me in mind of Zevran), husband and later a widower, father to an estranged son. Soulful and spiritual.  Not afraid to disagree with Shepard but not an argumentative contrarian.

We were also given hints that a life extention/cure could be possible: in his medical report from Dr. Chakwas, it states he is a good canidate for a lung transplant.  Then the CDN report on medi-gel for the lungs.  Here's the report:


"A new technology is helping victims of the Vallum Blast breathe easier - literally. Researchers at U. Thierax are attacking the myriad of respiratory diseases caused by inhaling dust around the blast site. Dubbed "medi-gel for the lungs," the Eupulmos Device analyzes a patient's tissue or medicard record before adjusting its virally-delivered superdrugs to match the patient's genetic predispositions. After that, the mister sprays the aerosol into the patient's nasal passages and the drug is absorbed into the lungs. The mister can also deliver microsurgery machines to make non-invasive repairs to tissue and has a color-coded nozzle at each end with separate agent reservoirs for dextro and levo patients. Said one ER staffer, "The effect is incredible. In a year, the whole galaxy will be using these things. "

The Hanar have been working on a cure for some time, and he states this himself when you first meet him, but he says in the first dialogue on the Normandy, that he will most likely not live to see it.  However, if his life was extended by one of the means that I mentioned above ( also the Batarians are successfully growing replacement organs; this science/technology could be applied...possibly), he could possibly live to see that Hanar cure. (assuming there is a galaxy left standing...HA!)

I really hate the idea of anyone ill being defined by their illness.  In my 42 years I have seen family members and friends diagnosed with illness, some that turned out to be terminal.  This did NOT stop them from trying to live and trying to hope, and using all available means to them to try and fight their disease.  Thane's character is so much more than an illness, and I had every reason to hope that they would have honored that.

Bolded for truth. Anyone ever watch someone slowly wither away from liver cancer? I have. I also watched this same person defy the "expiration date" one month at a time because she was not going to give up. How does this define her? As a hell of  a woman who fought to the very end. I'm glad people didn't write her off just because she had a terminal disease and say "oh her death was beautiful and moving" or...dare I say it "bittersweet". It was neither. It was horrible. 

Also...happy to know I'm not alone in the antiquities department.

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

coldwetn0se wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Thane's romance was similar to pulling the life support plug for me... would you rather he keep living a sick and tortured existence, suffering from his condition or let your man finally find some peace in the next life? It was bitter sweet imo

I'm glad that you were happy with your me3 experience with Thane, but we obviously are not.  If you pay attention to the dialogue between Shep and Thane during the romance,  he was no longer at peace with his death.  He also had so much more to his character than an illness; assassin (in training since the age of six......kinda puts me in mind of Zevran), husband and later a widower, father to an estranged son. Soulful and spiritual.  Not afraid to disagree with Shepard but not an argumentative contrarian.

We were also given hints that a life extention/cure could be possible: in his medical report from Dr. Chakwas, it states he is a good canidate for a lung transplant.  Then the CDN report on medi-gel for the lungs.  Here's the report:


"A new technology is helping victims of the Vallum Blast breathe easier - literally. Researchers at U. Thierax are attacking the myriad of respiratory diseases caused by inhaling dust around the blast site. Dubbed "medi-gel for the lungs," the Eupulmos Device analyzes a patient's tissue or medicard record before adjusting its virally-delivered superdrugs to match the patient's genetic predispositions. After that, the mister sprays the aerosol into the patient's nasal passages and the drug is absorbed into the lungs. The mister can also deliver microsurgery machines to make non-invasive repairs to tissue and has a color-coded nozzle at each end with separate agent reservoirs for dextro and levo patients. Said one ER staffer, "The effect is incredible. In a year, the whole galaxy will be using these things. "

The Hanar have been working on a cure for some time, and he states this himself when you first meet him, but he says in the first dialogue on the Normandy, that he will most likely not live to see it.  However, if his life was extended by one of the means that I mentioned above ( also the Batarians are successfully growing replacement organs; this science/technology could be applied...possibly), he could possibly live to see that Hanar cure. (assuming there is a galaxy left standing...HA!)

I really hate the idea of anyone ill being defined by their illness.  In my 42 years I have seen family members and friends diagnosed with illness, some that turned out to be terminal.  This did NOT stop them from trying to live and trying to hope, and using all available means to them to try and fight their disease.  Thane's character is so much more than an illness, and I had every reason to hope that they would have honored that.

Bolded for truth. Anyone ever watch someone slowly wither away from liver cancer? I have. I also watched this same person defy the "expiration date" one month at a time because she was not going to give up. How does this define her? As a hell of  a woman who fought to the very end. I'm glad people didn't write her off just because she had a terminal disease and say "oh her death was beautiful and moving" or...dare I say it "bittersweet". It was neither. It was horrible. 

Also...happy to know I'm not alone in the antiquities department.

Sorry to hear about your loved one....and that is spot on with my experience.



BTW.........did you just call me an antique??

<ole' bitty>

[Emzamination]

coldwetn0se wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

Thane's romance was similar to pulling the life support plug for me... would you rather he keep living a sick and tortured existence, suffering from his condition or let your man finally find some peace in the next life? It was bitter sweet imo

I'm glad that you were happy with your me3 experience with Thane, but we obviously are not.  If you pay attention to the dialogue between Shep and Thane during the romance,  he was no longer at peace with his death.  He also had so much more to his character than an illness; assassin (in training since the age of six......kinda puts me in mind of Zevran), husband and later a widower, father to an estranged son. Soulful and spiritual.  Not afraid to disagree with Shepard but not an argumentative contrarian.

We were also given hints that a life extention/cure could be possible: in his medical report from Dr. Chakwas, it states he is a good canidate for a lung transplant.  Then the CDN report on medi-gel for the lungs.  Here's the report:


"A new technology is helping victims of the Vallum Blast breathe easier - literally. Researchers at U. Thierax are attacking the myriad of respiratory diseases caused by inhaling dust around the blast site. Dubbed "medi-gel for the lungs," the Eupulmos Device analyzes a patient's tissue or medicard record before adjusting its virally-delivered superdrugs to match the patient's genetic predispositions. After that, the mister sprays the aerosol into the patient's nasal passages and the drug is absorbed into the lungs. The mister can also deliver microsurgery machines to make non-invasive repairs to tissue and has a color-coded nozzle at each end with separate agent reservoirs for dextro and levo patients. Said one ER staffer, "The effect is incredible. In a year, the whole galaxy will be using these things. "

The Hanar have been working on a cure for some time, and he states this himself when you first meet him, but he says in the first dialogue on the Normandy, that he will most likely not live to see it.  However, if his life was extended by one of the means that I mentioned above ( also the Batarians are successfully growing replacement organs; this science/technology could be applied...possibly), he could possibly live to see that Hanar cure. (assuming there is a galaxy left standing...HA!)

I really hate the idea of anyone ill being defined by their illness.  In my 42 years I have seen family members and friends diagnosed with illness, some that turned out to be terminal.  This did NOT stop them from trying to live and trying to hope, and using all available means to them to try and fight their disease.  Thane's character is so much more than an illness, and I had every reason to hope that they would have honored that.

Its only "mortal" that a dieing person would want more time with loved ones, it doesn't constitute that they haven't accepted their death as well.As far as the transplant goes, are you considering it from thanes point of view? It is easy to speak of transplants and surgical procedures when it is not your person on the metal slab getting your chest sliced open,blood transfusion,soreness,healing and everything else in that cheery little package.My point is that sometimes the best way to show your love is to let go.

[Cyansomnia]

I would have been fine with letting go, if they'd done it in a respectful manner and given the player a chance to come to terms with it. As it stands, the whole thing is emotionally jarring and terrible. Especially for a character who will die, shouldn't they have taken more care? Given more scenes with him? A chance to talk about the situation more in-depth? Let Shepard say 'I love you' and 'goodbye'?

And why does no one remember or mourn him? I think that hurts the most of all.

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 01 avril 2012 - 10:46 .

[Visii]

@Emzamination,

Here's the thing. We never got to talk about it with Thane. We only got to talk to him about the illness itself, not about any possible sort of treatment for it. He was just RESIGNED to it, the way he was at the beginning of ME2, even though, if romanced, he had changed.

[utaker1988]

Oh my...ridges!! Dancing!!! And yes, I've had plenty of naughty dreams about both, meh, didn't want to wake up from them either. I distinctly rolling off the bed one night in the middle of a good one, I was not mad I had just faceplanted myself into my big ass dog but it disturbed my dream.

Now, have I watched someone I love wither away from cancer. Yes I have and he did not even his darkest of days EVER give up nor did he lose hope. He once said to me, "All I have is hope and the love of the people that matter. I won't be giving in even when God takes my last breath from me." I remember those words because they haunt me and even worse because they came from the mouth of my nephew. He was 12 when he got hit with brain cancer and at 17 he lost that battle but he NEVER sat his ass down and just accepted that death was his only option. Not once. So for the writers of this game to think that a dying person's only damned option is to just roll over and accept it is lazy. It is much easier to die than it is to live. You want to tug at my heart strings, show me a person who fights with everything they have against all odds. Don't show me someone who just bends over and takes it like a cheap streetwalker. I don't do pity parties. So no, sorry if I don't get "He died like a champ", my nephew died like a champ. As I held his hand as he took his last breath, he was still fighting.

Thane if romanced did not accept his death anymore and I don't doubt for one second that if written correctly, he would NOT have been parked in that hospital just bending over and waiting for death. So yeah, some want to say but he went out fighting, well I guess he did, didn't he. But a romanced Thane would not have been sitting in that chair staring out the window like a whipped man. So everything before that fight is totally against who he was before my Shep was foisted into Alliance custody.

And, I should note now, I'm going to be watching the object of my first set of fanfic is going to be on tonight. And so help me Gods, if The Undertaker loses, I will be looking for trolls to take my anger out on.

[Niemalna]

I also don't mind if Thane turns down a cure, but I do want to hear why. I do want to see his point of view. I want an explanation of why he now accepts his death again. I just want to learn this kind of stuff. Because he did change at the end of ME2 in a hopeful sort of way, and no I don't want him to suffer, as I would never wish anyone to suffer. But he seemed so passionate and "awakened" that I now miss that.
Did enjoy the "let it go" line. I think that could apply well to his romance, if it ever gets fixed. Because I still stand beside my opinion that it wasn't very good, due to lack of dialogue/screentime/etc. Not just because of his death.

utaker1988 wrote...

And, I should note now, I'm going to be watching the object of my first set of fanfic is going to be on tonight. And so help me Gods, if The Undertaker loses, I will be looking for trolls to take my anger out on.

Your... your n-name....
I never realized.
OH MY I AM SO BLIIIIIIIIIIIIND.

Modifié par Niemalna, 01 avril 2012 - 10:55 .

[Visii]

utaker1988 wrote...

Now, have I watched someone I love wither away from cancer. Yes I have and he did not even his darkest of days EVER give up nor did he lose hope. He once said to me, "All I have is hope and the love of the people that matter. I won't be giving in even when God takes my last breath from me." I remember those words because they haunt me and even worse because they came from the mouth of my nephew. He was 12 when he got hit with brain cancer and at 17 he lost that battle but he NEVER sat his ass down and just accepted that death was his only option. Not once. So for the writers of this game to think that a dying person's only damned option is to just roll over and accept it is lazy. It is much easier to die than it is to live. You want to tug at my heart strings, show me a person who fights with everything they have against all odds. Don't show me someone who just bends over and takes it like a cheap streetwalker. I don't do pity parties. So no, sorry if I don't get "He died like a champ", my nephew died like a champ. As I held his hand as he took his last breath, he was still fighting.

Thane if romanced did not accept his death anymore and I don't doubt for one second that if written correctly, he would NOT have been parked in that hospital just bending over and waiting for death. So yeah, some want to say but he went out fighting, well I guess he did, didn't he. But a romanced Thane would not have been sitting in that chair staring out the window like a whipped man. So everything before that fight is totally against who he was before my Shep was foisted into Alliance custody.

THIS.

And, I'm so sorry for your nephew. My mother is battling pancreatic cancer right now, I know how it feels.

Modifié par Visii, 01 avril 2012 - 11:15 .

[coldwetn0se]

Emzamination wrote...


Its only "mortal" that a dieing person would want more time with loved ones, it doesn't constitute that they haven't accepted their death as well.As far as the transplant goes, are you considering it from thanes point of view? It is easy to speak of transplants and surgical procedures when it is not your person on the metal slab getting your chest sliced open,blood transfusion,soreness,healing and everything else in that cheery little package.My point is that sometimes the best way to show your love is to let go.

And I would agree, assuming you were able to talk to said loved one about their choices/desires.  In ME2, Thane's character arc was NOT resigned to death if you romanced him, wishing to live for his son, and Shepard.  His original writer didn't even no which direction they were going to go in with his character.  It is probably reasonable to assume that this is WHY they left all those hints about life extention/cure.  Gives them (and wishfully), us as players....CHOICES.

In me3 we are never given a true conversation about this 180 character change, since they didn't bother to put in dialogue there that was SPECIFIC to a romanced Thane.  And please take some care with this.  You are stating that it is more HUMANE to "let someone go".  It can be, if that is their wishes, but I will be damned if I won't offer my support in their fight, if that is what they choose.  I would hope my loved ones would do the same for me.

Should also be noted that since there are many of us (as everyone will face at some point; no one is immune to death and loss) who have dealt with or are currently dealing with a loved ones illness, this character may have given them a sense of player agency that they can have in a fantasy setting (video game), which they CAN NOT have in real life.  Save someone they love.  It's called escapism, and it is nice to have at times.

We were hoping for choices, and a number of us have come up with all kinds of plausible ways that they could have offered us, but didn't.  I don't actually believe that they will change anything, but I will still speak my mind about Thanes character (or lack there of) in this game.  And remember....you talk about pain in a video game/fantasy setting.....reread my post and you will see that some of the treatments might not be terrible invasive, and I'm guess medical science has improved a bit to combat pain/suffering and recovery times.  Gotta love sci-fi!

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 01 avril 2012 - 11:19 .

[Emzamination]

Visii wrote...

@Emzamination,

Here's the thing. We never got to talk about it with Thane. We only got to talk to him about the illness itself, not about any possible sort of treatment for it. He was just RESIGNED to it, the way he was at the beginning of ME2, even though, if romanced, he had changed.

The man had lived a long sad and hard life, he was tire and when you have a stubborn "loving" spouse or partner that you KNOW is not going to give up fighting as long as options keep presenting themselves (as human nature dictates), sometimes you have to say enough is enough and take the options out of their hands.