Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 02 avril 2012 - 05:10 .
Modifié par wildannie, 02 avril 2012 - 05:18 .
Julia_xo wrote...
You guys are so right. As if there was ever any doubt, Patrick Weekes really didn't exaggerate when he said they forgot Thane was a LI, It's like they wrote his character completely from an unromanced perspective and only later remembered he was a possible romance option.
The few romance referenes we got were added as an afterthought. It's painfully obvious.. The neglect, the dismissiveness, the lack of emotions, the out of character moments for both Thane and Shepard. God, this is depressing.
I feel like I keep cycling through the stages of grief. I've long moved past denial. Now I'm stuck somewhere between anger and depression with the occasional trip into bargaining territory (BW, I will give you money for DLC to fix this). UGH. If I didn't care about Thane so much and if it weren't for the awesome Thane fans on this forum, I feel like I would have cut my losses and just moved on from the trainwreck known as ME3 at this point.
Modifié par JECW, 02 avril 2012 - 05:25 .
Aislinn Trista wrote...
You know, it's interesting to observe the people in this thread and see the sort of age groups Thane attracts. Seems to be mostly mature women, a lot of them married. I'm 29 (30 in a few weeks) and feel very much at home here.
It saddens me even more that they created such a beautiful character, that attracted a lot of people that wanted something deeper, more complicated, more real...
Then ended it like this. What the hell were they thinking? Way to alienate a chunk of your audience.
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Thane being handsome, as per usual, in his classic pose:
coldwetn0se wrote...
The other thing that gets my goat is that I suspect in the minds of some players , and I might hazard a guess, some of the writers, that Thane didn't have enough of a connection to the main plot line. Problem is, he's at the whim (mercy) of the writers for that! I love pretty much all the characters in ME, but consider this for a moment: Garrus, not exactly needed to move the plot along. His involvement in ME1 was really just about how he wants to "get" Saren. That's really it. Ashley is just "found" alive on Eden Prime.....they lost Jenkins, and she is Alliance, so "come on, girl!" Kaidan.....he's already on the ship; that's pretty much it.
I think you can see where I am going with this. Many of the other characters aren't any more important to the main storyline than Thane. Garrus has been there since the beginning; so he's got longevity going for him.....I guess.
BUT, here is my main point; I personally LIKED the idea of the majority of the squaddies (former and present), having their OWN story lines, and how they relate to Shepard. This being <slight sarcasm> an RPG, that is how I hope for my NPC interactions to be........added sub-plot, flavor, romance, introducing new lore, comedy, ect.......... As for ME, I always saw the relationships as giving Shepard a real reason to fight. The more Shepard cares and interacts with his squaddies/crew, the more motivation she/he has to save the Galaxy. Save his friends/family (squad/crew), and the Galaxy reaps the benefits.
Modifié par JECW, 02 avril 2012 - 05:55 .
Bluecansam wrote...
Aislinn Trista wrote...
You know, it's interesting to observe the people in this thread and see the sort of age groups Thane attracts. Seems to be mostly mature women, a lot of them married. I'm 29 (30 in a few weeks) and feel very much at home here.
It saddens me even more that they created such a beautiful character, that attracted a lot of people that wanted something deeper, more complicated, more real...
Then ended it like this. What the hell were they thinking? Way to alienate a chunk of your audience.
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Thane being handsome, as per usual, in his classic pose:
Oh, hey! I'm 29-almost-30 too! I'll be 30 on Friday.
It'd be interesting to see what age groups are attracted to each LI. I'd be willing to bet that Thane and Garrus romancers are typically older than, say, Kaidan and Jacob romancers. Thane and Garrus' romances seem more mature to me.
JECW wrote...
coldwetn0se wrote...
The other thing that gets my goat is that I suspect in the minds of some players , and I might hazard a guess, some of the writers, that Thane didn't have enough of a connection to the main plot line. Problem is, he's at the whim (mercy) of the writers for that! I love pretty much all the characters in ME, but consider this for a moment: Garrus, not exactly needed to move the plot along. His involvement in ME1 was really just about how he wants to "get" Saren. That's really it. Ashley is just "found" alive on Eden Prime.....they lost Jenkins, and she is Alliance, so "come on, girl!" Kaidan.....he's already on the ship; that's pretty much it.
I think you can see where I am going with this. Many of the other characters aren't any more important to the main storyline than Thane. Garrus has been there since the beginning; so he's got longevity going for him.....I guess.
BUT, here is my main point; I personally LIKED the idea of the majority of the squaddies (former and present), having their OWN story lines, and how they relate to Shepard. This being <slight sarcasm> an RPG, that is how I hope for my NPC interactions to be........added sub-plot, flavor, romance, introducing new lore, comedy, ect.......... As for ME, I always saw the relationships as giving Shepard a real reason to fight. The more Shepard cares and interacts with his squaddies/crew, the more motivation she/he has to save the Galaxy. Save his friends/family (squad/crew), and the Galaxy reaps the benefits.
That's true.
There are a lot of characters that don't move the plot along. I love Garrus but he doesn't really move the plot along. He never did. Not in ME1,2 or 3. The VS doesn't. After the Udina coup they don't really do anything else. I really liked Vega but he wasn't necessary for the plot either. I'm still trying to figure out why we needed EDI to get a body and come with us.
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coldwetn0se wrote...
The other thing that gets my goat is that I suspect in the minds of some players , and I might hazard a guess, some of the writers, that Thane didn't have enough of a connection to the main plot line. Problem is, he's at the whim (mercy) of the writers for that! I love pretty much all the characters in ME, but consider this for a moment: Garrus, not exactly needed to move the plot along. His involvement in ME1 was really just about how he wants to "get" Saren. That's really it. Ashley is just "found" alive on Eden Prime.....they lost Jenkins, and she is Alliance, so "come on, girl!" Kaidan.....he's already on the ship; that's pretty much it.
I think you can see where I am going with this. Many of the other characters aren't any more important to the main storyline than Thane. Garrus has been there since the beginning; so he's got longevity going for him.....I guess.
BUT, here is my main point; I personally LIKED the idea of the majority of the squaddies (former and present), having their OWN story lines, and how they relate to Shepard. This being <slight sarcasm> an RPG, that is how I hope for my NPC interactions to be........added sub-plot, flavor, romance, introducing new lore, comedy, ect.......... As for ME, I always saw the relationships as giving Shepard a real reason to fight. The more Shepard cares and interacts with his squaddies/crew, the more motivation she/he has to save the Galaxy. Save his friends/family (squad/crew), and the Galaxy reaps the benefits.
JECW wrote...
Bluecansam wrote...
Aislinn Trista wrote...
You know, it's interesting to observe the people in this thread and see the sort of age groups Thane attracts. Seems to be mostly mature women, a lot of them married. I'm 29 (30 in a few weeks) and feel very much at home here.
It saddens me even more that they created such a beautiful character, that attracted a lot of people that wanted something deeper, more complicated, more real...
Then ended it like this. What the hell were they thinking? Way to alienate a chunk of your audience.
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Thane being handsome, as per usual, in his classic pose:
Oh, hey! I'm 29-almost-30 too! I'll be 30 on Friday.
It'd be interesting to see what age groups are attracted to each LI. I'd be willing to bet that Thane and Garrus romancers are typically older than, say, Kaidan and Jacob romancers. Thane and Garrus' romances seem more mature to me.
I think Kaidan has quite a few fans that are older. I always thought Garrus fans were a little younger.
I'm not sure about Jacob though.
wildannie wrote...
coldwetn0se wrote...
The other thing that gets my goat is that I suspect in the minds of some players , and I might hazard a guess, some of the writers, that Thane didn't have enough of a connection to the main plot line. Problem is, he's at the whim (mercy) of the writers for that! I love pretty much all the characters in ME, but consider this for a moment: Garrus, not exactly needed to move the plot along. His involvement in ME1 was really just about how he wants to "get" Saren. That's really it. Ashley is just "found" alive on Eden Prime.....they lost Jenkins, and she is Alliance, so "come on, girl!" Kaidan.....he's already on the ship; that's pretty much it.
I think you can see where I am going with this. Many of the other characters aren't any more important to the main storyline than Thane. Garrus has been there since the beginning; so he's got longevity going for him.....I guess.
BUT, here is my main point; I personally LIKED the idea of the majority of the squaddies (former and present), having their OWN story lines, and how they relate to Shepard. This being <slight sarcasm> an RPG, that is how I hope for my NPC interactions to be........added sub-plot, flavor, romance, introducing new lore, comedy, ect.......... As for ME, I always saw the relationships as giving Shepard a real reason to fight. The more Shepard cares and interacts with his squaddies/crew, the more motivation she/he has to save the Galaxy. Save his friends/family (squad/crew), and the Galaxy reaps the benefits.
This is exactly how I saw it, even Mordin saw it that way... remember he wants to talk to his nephew before the suicide mission to give him a more personal connection to the fight... BW knew this but chose money over quality, cut content that could have been reasonably expected (satisfactory LI arcs for Thane and Jacob) and alienated a fair number of their female fans in the process <_<
). It shows that some of the writers (at least from ME2) understood this concept, and integrates it into a squad member. How they could ignore such concepts in this game (me3), is beyond belief!
(lurking at work)
Laser-Eyes wrote...
<--- I'm 26 and my 10 million femsheps are devoted to Thane
Modifié par EvanesceKunoichi, 02 avril 2012 - 06:37 .
utaker1988 wrote...
I'd also support Hold the Drell.
BioWare, you've changed Thane's character. Your writer's now have the attention of those infinitely your greater. That which you know as Thanemancers are your salvation through a Thane DLC. You have failed. We will find a way to save Thane. I'd like to pipe that into their PA all day until they fix this and in the Harbinger voice, let them listen to that all day. Make it stop!!! Make it stop!!!! When they cry I'd like to give them the troll Leng master comeback, "Shut up"
Modifié par Kaija, 02 avril 2012 - 06:57 .
Nette wrote...
Hello everyone! I just finished the Citadelmission where Thane dies with my Shep that romanced him....I'm devastated of how it was handled, I couldn't go on and I thought I'd seek out some likeminded people for support. What were they thinking?!?! I've already played through the game with Sheps that romanced Garrus and Kaidan and they handled both of those amazingly so why can't we have that for Thane?!?!
There should be an option to save him! If not by the hanarcure then by lungtransplant. They should be able to clone lungs that fit him perfectly by now, hell Shep was dead and she was brought back to life! Give Thane some new lungs dammit!! He wanted to live after ME2, he had a reason to live after ME2. Give him a chance Bioware!!
It's easily fixed to. If romanced he could have gotten the lungtransplant while Shep was locked up and she meets him at the hospital on one of his checkups, (he would still need to see doctors after the transplant so you don't have to put him somewhere else), after Shep talks to him, he could agree to stay to see that Kaidan isn't killed in the hospital so Shep doesn't have to worry about that.
And about Kai Leng, that scene could still be there but because of the transplant he had, the wound is not fatal this time. And after he heals he could join you on the Normandy, if not as a teammember then as a crewmate. There, everybody is happy!! Would that be so hard to do?!?!
Sorry for the rant, I needed to vent. ^^
Bronagh wrote...
I've been contemplating putting this down in words for a while now so here goes (sorry for the wall of text and any grammatical errors or such, my first language isn't english).
I found Mass effect a couple of years ago and eventually got both 1 and 2. I'm not a forum person and didn't really know any other gamers so i just played by myself in my own little bubble. I loved the games, did every little sidequest and really took my time with it but when i found Thane it got a whole lot more interesting and i loved it even more.
Fast forward to present day, waiting and anticipating mass effect 3 and how the storyline would proceed *with Thane*. I had not read the forums but had the same hope for a life extension / cure for him as i see a lot of you do and had read rumors etc online over the past year.
Well...I preordered the game, predownloaded when that was available and hit the play button at exactly 00:01 when it was released here in europe. I was super excited and anxiously waited to meet back up with him. When i got the letter i actually exclaimed out loud THANE *big massive grin on my face* and ran to the hospital.
I don't have any words for how that all made me feel except....eh heartbreak...and the game went downhill fast for me. After his death it just turned into a sad and hurried affair, didn't care about the side quests, didn't much care about any of it and just wanted to get to the end to see what happened.
All i could think of when my Shepard died was *at least she went to be with him*.
After a day or so of ingesting what exactly happened here in the game i had looked forward to so damn long and feeling utterly depressed, i went to the forums to see if it was just me being stupid or maybe someone else was unhappy too. Now to make a point of how much this actually has bothered me...i never post to forums, i never post anything online. I've had a facebook account for years and i never even updated my status on it once, just added a few pictures, and i have avoided twitter like the plague.
Being the introvert / shy lurker i am, it has taken a lot for me to even post anything here but that's how upset i am by Thanes threatment. This wall of text is very much not the normal me lol, and i only post in this thread. But i do vote on any poll i possibly can to support, and i've been reading this thread and others involving Thane every day. Also signed the petition with a few lines of thoughts and liked the facebook page. Also thank you to who it was that linked the fanfic The Thirty-Six Stratagems. I read it and it was awesome.
I know i've said something similar before in the couple of other posts i have in this thread, but it means so much that you guys are here. I may not interact much at all, but i read, i tear up, i laugh, i swoon over the lovely pics, and at the end of the day i feel better for reading all of your posts and a little more hopeful that things may get fixed so thank you for being what i can not.
Oh and by the way, I saw someone mention being an antique, you're definately not alone *raises hand* 44 here.
Big stupid jellyfish wrote...
Aislinn Trista wrote...
*sigh*
And shall remain as such. /sadface
I'm feeling really low tonight.
I romanced Thane in ME3 and all I got was this lousy...
Oh wait. I can't even get a lousy achievement.
Just when I thought I got used to Thane's fate in ME3 this single screenshot made me rage all over again.
Edit: It's not that having this achievement unlocked is so important; it's just that it basically symbolizes the amount of care and attention Thane's romance got from developers in the final game, which is pretty much zero.
And no, I do not think I want them to make this achievement available for us via some patch or something. What's the point in having a fancy medal if we don't have proper closure?
I compiled a Pax letter and sent it to Visii, now i feel a bit better knowing my voice is going with all of yours.
Tried to make a playthrough with Garrus, ended up with Thane again.... yeah I know. But I am also a Jack fangirl My Maleshep love her and nooooooooo other girl But nothing over Thane of course
Bronagh wrote...
Thanks everyone
Great that you also wrote a letter We have to infiltrate Visii's desk *muhahaha*
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