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[wildannie]

agreed, 8 years is hardly a big difference. Also, if I was going into a relationship with a 48 year old guy (8 years older than me) I'd have some concerns if he'd never been in a relationship before, if he had lost someone he loved in his past I would not hold it against him... what kind of person would?

Petition to improve ME2 romances

www.thepetitionsite.com/266/720/767/mass-effect-save-our-characters-save-our-game-petition/

Modifié par wildannie, 03 avril 2012 - 05:52 .

[Cyansomnia]

I really love the idea that Thane has a past. It makes him seem more real to me as a person. He's developed, fleshed-out, flawed and incredibly intriguing.

As for Irikah, I genuinely loved his stories about her. Especially the memory of how they met. I could imagine my Shepard asking more about her, as she was a very important part of his life. Irikah sounded like an amazing woman, someone to be admired. I can't fathom why people wouldn't find that fascinating, but maybe it's because I'm extremely empathetic and know what it's like to have a troubled past... or what it's like to lose a great deal, and how it changes you.

There are those characters that really capture your attention, causing you to hang on their every word and you're drawn into speaking with them. Thane was like that for me.  He turned my Mass Effect experience from something good into something great.

Such a lovingly crafted and well-written character truly deserved better.

Modifié par Aislinn Trista, 03 avril 2012 - 06:09 .

[Cosmochyck]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I really love the idea that Thane has a past. It makes him seem more real to me as a person. He's developed, fleshed-out, flawed and incredibly intriguing.

As for Irikah, I genuinely loved his stories about her. Especially the memory of how they met. I could imagine my Shepard asking more about her, as she was a very important part of his life. Irikah sounded like an amazing woman, someone to be admired. I can't fathom why people wouldn't find that fascinating, but maybe it's because I'm extremely empathetic and know what it's like to have a troubled past... or what it's like to lose a great deal, and how it changes you.

There are those characters that really capture your attention, causing you to hang on their every word and you're drawn into speaking with them. Thane was like that for me.  He turned my Mass Effect experience from something good into something great.

Such a lovingly crafted and well-written character truly deserved better.

All of this.  He really is fantastic in ME2.  And then comes ME3....Why BW, why?  So many misssed opportunities....

And I'm posting this - Squeegee83 did it for my fanfic that's going into the fanbook - I love it!

[JECW]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I really love the idea that Thane has a past. It makes him seem more real to me as a person. He's developed, fleshed-out, flawed and incredibly intriguing.

As for Irikah, I genuinely loved his stories about her. Especially the memory of how they met. I could imagine my Shepard asking more about her, as she was a very important part of his life. Irikah sounded like an amazing woman, someone to be admired. I can't fathom why people wouldn't find that fascinating, but maybe it's because I'm extremely empathetic and know what it's like to have a troubled past... or what it's like to lose a great deal, and how it changes you.

There are those characters that really capture your attention, causing you to hang on their every word and you're drawn into speaking with them. Thane was like that for me.  He turned my Mass Effect experience from something good into something great.

Such a lovingly crafted and well-written character truly deserved better.

This is exactly how I feel.  Thane is the only character to ever do that for me.
I just don't understand how they can go from doing such a great job with him in ME2 to treating him so badly in ME3.

[JECW]

sunnie7699 wrote...

JECW wrote...

His wife also died about ten years ago. It's not like she died yesterday.
I would have been more surpised if someone Thane's age had never had a serious relationship.

Especially someone as sexy as Thane.. 

How could anyone resist that.

[mnomaha]

okay, I wake up to an upset friend because of this (fb wall post)

Maphesta Disoinne
I understand your anger and frustration about Bioware dropping the ball on Thane as a LI, but saying that his poor treatment broke the game for you is a disgrace to the entire gaming community, making us look like the "entitled" and "spoiled" people we're already made out to be by much of the media, devaluating a protest that makes sense. Bioware put their heart and soul in most of the saga. They could've just left out Thane entirely and you had no ground of complaining about it. This is not the case with an ending. A story needs an ending that applies to the narrative coherence, otherwise the storyteller failed to deliver.

Needs looooots more coffee before diving in.

[Visii]

mnomaha wrote...

okay, I wake up to an upset friend because of this (fb wall post)

Maphesta Disoinne
I understand your anger and frustration about Bioware dropping the ball on Thane as a LI, but saying that his poor treatment broke the game for you is a disgrace to the entire gaming community, making us look like the "entitled" and "spoiled" people we're already made out to be by much of the media, devaluating a protest that makes sense. Bioware put their heart and soul in most of the saga. They could've just left out Thane entirely and you had no ground of complaining about it. This is not the case with an ending. A story needs an ending that applies to the narrative coherence, otherwise the storyteller failed to deliver.

Needs looooots more coffee before diving in.

*ugh* You can handle it can't you? I'm up to my elbows in PAX letters and the Communist indoctrination purported by Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple (American Assassins Essay).

Modifié par Visii, 03 avril 2012 - 06:56 .

[RShara]

Sounds like she's saying they need to fix the ending first and that it's more important.

I agree to a point. But fixing the ending, while it will increase the replay value, won't mend the disappointment on how Thane was handled. I think that fixing the character interactions should be the 2nd priority, and only by a LITTLE bit.

[EvanesceKunoichi]

mnomaha wrote...

okay, I wake up to an upset friend because of this (fb wall post)

Maphesta Disoinne
I understand your anger and frustration about Bioware dropping the ball on Thane as a LI, but saying that his poor treatment broke the game for you is a disgrace to the entire gaming community, making us look like the "entitled" and "spoiled" people we're already made out to be by much of the media, devaluating a protest that makes sense. Bioware put their heart and soul in most of the saga. They could've just left out Thane entirely and you had no ground of complaining about it. This is not the case with an ending. A story needs an ending that applies to the narrative coherence, otherwise the storyteller failed to deliver.

Needs looooots more coffee before diving in.

So basically they're saying it's okay to complain about the ending but not about the lack of Thane, and what they did to the other LI's...

**sigh**

To be honest I was more upset about what happened to Thane then the ending.

Modifié par EvanesceKunoichi, 03 avril 2012 - 07:07 .

[Kaija]

mnomaha wrote...

okay, I wake up to an upset friend because of this (fb wall post)

Maphesta Disoinne
I understand your anger and frustration about Bioware dropping the ball on Thane as a LI, but saying that his poor treatment broke the game for you is a disgrace to the entire gaming community, making us look like the "entitled" and "spoiled" people we're already made out to be by much of the media, devaluating a protest that makes sense. Bioware put their heart and soul in most of the saga. They could've just left out Thane entirely and you had no ground of complaining about it. This is not the case with an ending. A story needs an ending that applies to the narrative coherence, otherwise the storyteller failed to deliver.

Needs looooots more coffee before diving in.

This again! I am so sick of hearing this argument, especially related to the ending controversy. This entire response makes no sense coming from someone who is apparently protesting the ending. It's not taking away anything from that protest.  I, for one, have found many things about ME3 that did not live up to Bioware's standards set in 1 and 2. I feel I have every right to protest any aspect of the game I find lacking.  As fans, and paying fans at that, we've devoted a lot of our time, money, dedication, ect. into this series. Fans attacking fans for standing up and speaking out about aspects they care about that weren't delivered upon doesn't help game companies improve. The art process includes critique.

In all honesty, it's the combination of many aspects, including characters being thrown aside, that leads to the feeling of a game that could and should have lived up to much more and at the very least the standard of the previous games.

Modifié par Kaija, 03 avril 2012 - 07:07 .

[blueshepard]

mnomaha wrote...

okay, I wake up to an upset friend because of this (fb wall post)

Maphesta Disoinne
I understand your anger and frustration about Bioware dropping the ball on Thane as a LI, but saying that his poor treatment broke the game for you is a disgrace to the entire gaming community, making us look like the "entitled" and "spoiled" people we're already made out to be by much of the media, devaluating a protest that makes sense. Bioware put their heart and soul in most of the saga. They could've just left out Thane entirely and you had no ground of complaining about it. This is not the case with an ending. A story needs an ending that applies to the narrative coherence, otherwise the storyteller failed to deliver.

Needs looooots more coffee before diving in.

Always the same..... boring sniffsnaff..... <_<

[utaker1988]

Cosmochyck wrote...



All of this.  He really is fantastic in ME2.  And then comes ME3....Why BW, why?  So many misssed opportunities....

And I'm posting this - Squeegee83 did it for my fanfic that's going into the fanbook - I love it!

That is beautiful!!  

I still can't believe there are some out there that still have an issue with Thane having a past.  Really?  That is still an issue for some?  Wow, I guess some have not had much life experience in love and loss.   I would have had flags flying up everywhere if he had told me, "Yeah I'm 39 and never knew love."  Since my Shep has no time for being jerked around, she would have bolted at that point.  I know cruel, but the fact that he knew how to love and what it feels like to lose it, told my little Shep that if he said he cared for her chances are he meant it.  Especially after losing his wife the way he did and shutting himself off for 10 years.    She knew she wasn't dicked around by him and had he done so, well I imagine she would not have handled it well.

As for baggage, well had my husband considered mine, he would have ran for the hills and never looked back.  I know, there were a few that did.  Good riddance.  I never lie to anyone who asks and if one does not like what they hear then they are always free to turn the other way and keep going.  You name it, I've either seen it or done it.

[Celbess]

He upset quite a lot of Thane-mancers there with his comments and patronising. I couldn't stand it any longer and posted my 2 cents even though I should have known better... (internet plus anonymity equals ... ) He then told me what mnomaha  quoted.

He already backed down a bit in the meantime but still uses arguments such as "Just don't think you should have as much a "right" (if you will) for a change than those of us who feel thoroughly  raped by the ending. In the end... I hate to break it to you... but you're the "entitled" and "whining" fans the media keeps talking about. When Bioware looks at this, they can think "Damn, wished we never gave those dramaqueens a LI, ffs.". "

I just don't understand it... why? I don't like the endings either and I support the protests but why are some people so narrow-minded? Why do they look down on us just because we voice our disappoinment and anger about the poor treatment of our LI's in ME3 instead of just freaking out about the endings? What's the problem? I don't get it...

Modifié par Celbess, 03 avril 2012 - 07:12 .

[mnomaha]

...he's a complete wanker with nothing better to do than troll on Thane fans because we have an equally compelling problem with OUR game?

[utaker1988]

It goes down to what I firmly believe is the underlying issue. They are selfish and feel threatened. A part of their tiny brain believes that if BioWare pays attention to us that their wants are not the full focus and might get ignored. They should just realize that no matter how loud we yell, the ending right now IS the large elephant in the room and they are going to be taken care of first.

[Celbess]

mnomaha wrote...

...he's a complete wanker with nothing better to do than troll on Thane fans because we have an equally compelling problem with OUR game?

Indeed! Unfortunately, I'm too weak sometimes to ignore trolls... I love the internet for many things but there are times I really hate it because I'd never thought that so many jerks are living on this planet :innocent:

Modifié par Celbess, 03 avril 2012 - 07:20 .

[Kaija]

There's always one of these type around...

[Kaija]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I really love the idea that Thane has a past. It makes him seem more real to me as a person. He's developed, fleshed-out, flawed and incredibly intriguing.

As for Irikah, I genuinely loved his stories about her. Especially the memory of how they met. I could imagine my Shepard asking more about her, as she was a very important part of his life. Irikah sounded like an amazing woman, someone to be admired. I can't fathom why people wouldn't find that fascinating, but maybe it's because I'm extremely empathetic and know what it's like to have a troubled past... or what it's like to lose a great deal, and how it changes you.

There are those characters that really capture your attention, causing you to hang on their every word and you're drawn into speaking with them. Thane was like that for me.  He turned my Mass Effect experience from something good into something great.

Such a lovingly crafted and well-written character truly deserved better.

This is exactly what I found so compelling about him as a character, from any genre I've played or read. He was also so well voiced, a very nuanced portrayl.

[wildannie]

Cosmochyck wrote...



All of this.  He really is fantastic in ME2.  And then comes ME3....Why BW, why?  So many misssed opportunities....

And I'm posting this - Squeegee83 did it for my fanfic that's going into the fanbook - I love it!

Beautiful picture <3

[cielosorasky]

Aislinn Trista wrote...

I really love the idea that Thane has a past. It makes him seem more real to me as a person. He's developed, fleshed-out, flawed and incredibly intriguing.

As for Irikah, I genuinely loved his stories about her. Especially the memory of how they met. I could imagine my Shepard asking more about her, as she was a very important part of his life. Irikah sounded like an amazing woman, someone to be admired. I can't fathom why people wouldn't find that fascinating, but maybe it's because I'm extremely empathetic and know what it's like to have a troubled past... or what it's like to lose a great deal, and how it changes you.

There are those characters that really capture your attention, causing you to hang on their every word and you're drawn into speaking with them. Thane was like that for me.  He turned my Mass Effect experience from something good into something great.

Such a lovingly crafted and well-written character truly deserved better.

I couldn't have said it better myself. The last thing I was thinking about was Thane's age. I was more focused on his sexy voice. And lips. And ridges.

EDIT: Also, thank you all for the warm welcome! <3

Modifié par cielosorasky, 03 avril 2012 - 09:04 .

[RShara]

Well, Liara is over 100 yrs old, so I don't think an 8 yr age diff is really that much of a deal... lol

And if you think about it proportionately, if asari live to be ~1000, and humans live to be ~100-150, Liara ends up being around 18?  With Shepard's 32? 

[Jenlocks]

mnomaha wrote...

...he's a complete wanker with nothing better to do than troll on Thane fans because we have an equally compelling problem with OUR game?

man i hate that guy.

i've been gone visiting family the past few days and have so much catching up to do on here!! So much to read!
i'm trying not to lurk so much and spread the Thane love 

[coldwetn0se]

Hahahahaha!! Ahhhh, trolls like that make me <giggle/snort>.

I am terribly sorry for your friend though, @mnomaha. Send her hugs...........and boozes.

Any one who takes the time to beech about our so-called beeching <wink>, is really OTP....and too sad to waste time on. They will think what they think, and the world will keep on spinnin'! Bioware either will or won't do anything in regards to Thane. It also will have zero impact on what will or won't be done about the endings. We do what we can, and let the chips fall where they may......

Ok, apparently I took some "zen" pills today, or writing that letter to PAX was oddly liberating.....need some celebratory wine!! HA!

BTW....@Cosmo - Beautiful picture Squeegee did! Love it!


*EDIT*
for swearing....#&^#*%$





<ridges>

Modifié par coldwetn0se, 04 avril 2012 - 12:45 .

[mnomaha]

@Coldi...I let the filters edit my swearing. If anything gets through...all the better, it's their fault not mine.

PDS? oh yes please!

@Cosmo...sorry, been distracted today...that picture is gorgeous!!

[coldwetn0se]

mnomaha wrote...

@Coldi...I let the filters edit my swearing. If anything gets through...all the better, it's their fault not mine.

PDS? oh yes please!

@Cosmo...sorry, been distracted today...that picture is gorgeous!!

Actually the damn filters did there job....I just didn't want them to .....HA!

hmmmmm, PDS....yes!  I think I can do that.......gotta go fix dinner.......ya know, flip meat, yada-yada-yada......I'll put something up by the end of the night.