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Julia_xo

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ETA: Mass Effect: Save our characters, Save our Game petition

sydzilla wrote...

And uh-oh, I just got overloaded with Thane feels listening to some of my favorite music.
Here fellow Thane lovers, have some cries. :*(

http://cesontdesmots...ost/20923836827


Wordlessly watching he waits by the window and wonders

At the empty place inside

Heartlessly helping himself to her bad dreams

He worries did he hear a goodbye or even hello?


:crying:

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It always breaks my heart seeing him by that window all alone.

Modifié par Julia_xo, 12 avril 2012 - 08:50 .


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Helplessly Hoping has always been one of my favorite songs and it fits heartrendingly well in this situation. Here's the rest of the lyrics for anyone interested. Oh man I've got a million of em, I should make a THIS WILL GIVE YOU THANE FEELS playlist.

Helplessly hoping her harlequin hovers nearby
Awaiting a word
Gasping at glimpses of gentle true spirit, he runs
Wishing he could fly
Only to trip at the sound of goodbye

Wordlessly watching he waits by the window and wonders
At the empty place inside
Heartlessly helping himself to her bad dreams, he worries
Did he hear a good-bye?
Or even hello?

They are one person
They are two alone
They are three together
They are for each other

Stand by the stairway you'll see something certain to tell you
Confusion has its cost
Love isn't lying it's loose in a lady who lingers
Saying she is lost
And choking on hello

They are one person
They are two alone
They are three together
They are for each other

Modifié par sydzilla, 12 avril 2012 - 04:07 .


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Julia_xo

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@syd You should definitely make that playlist and share it with us! Listening to music is cathartic.

One song that reminds me of Thane alone in that awful hospital is Odds of Being Alone by Trent Dabbs ft Amy Stroup

You're watching your world spin
You feel farther from it now
Nowhere to begin
And are you to figure it out?

Wouldn't you like to know
Wouldn't you like to know
Wouldn't you like to know
The odds of being alone
Oh oh oh whoa

The odds of being alone
Oh oh oh whoa

Learning goodbyes
It's never easy, love
The harder we tried
Can never be enough

I need answers now
Cause I am caught off guard
The quiet feels so loud
Tell me this is the hardest part
Tell me this is the hardest part

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I am going to edit my thane drawing D< not enough detail

Modifié par Acidrain92, 12 avril 2012 - 04:47 .


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When I picked my daughter up from preschool yesterday (she's 5) she said she had drawn a picture for me. She said she knew that I was unhappy at my game because Shepard lost her best friend, so she drew a picture of Thane for me.

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lusciousdeath wrote...

When I picked my daughter up from preschool yesterday (she's 5) she said she had drawn a picture for me. She said she knew that I was unhappy at my game because Shepard lost her best friend, so she drew a picture of Thane for me.


That's so cute, and thoughtful.

Modifié par Xeyska, 12 avril 2012 - 04:45 .


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lusciousdeath wrote...

When I picked my daughter up from preschool yesterday (she's 5) she said she had drawn a picture for me. She said she knew that I was unhappy at my game because Shepard lost her best friend, so she drew a picture of Thane for me.


awww <3

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my contribution to songs:
this is Dave Matthews #41 (probably the best song in the whole world)

Some things that reminded me of Thane: I wanted to stay. I wanted to play. I wanted to love you.
have a listen
(bear with the crowd yelling and stuff)

 

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ok here's on more then i'll quit
Dave Matthews Band: You & Me

 

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Acidrain92 wrote...

I am going to edit my thane drawing D< not enough detail


Didn't have a chance to post before you took the sketch down, but I thought it was very well done.  Looking forward to seeing the finished product!Image IPB

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The screenshot of him in front of the window at Huerta's absolutely makes me cry....no joke just started crying. Probably didn't help that I was just at a hospital this morning, and on my way out, I saw this cute little old man, standing in front of one of the windows, just staring out. Now he very well could have had visitors earlier, or some coming later in the day, but it still gave me pause. If I hadn't been in the process of getting the car for my father-in-law to be wheeled to, I would have said hello. (yes, I'm one of those people.......)

This is one of the reasons I can't finish this game. The "interupt" kiss, cuts off the lines regarding Thane spending any time with Kolyat, and we never actually see anyone visiting with him.......so he just sits there; alone. It is horribly depressing to me, and not poignant, or bittersweet, or moving in any way.......it's rubbish......depressing as hell......and I hate seeing it.

BTW; please don't think I am admonishing anyone for posting that screenshot. Just stating how I react to those scenes of him in the Hospital.

Also, lovely song picks! :)

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This thread has my support. I have only one FemShep and she romanced Thane and was very very disappointed by the outcome in ME3.

So signed/

Modifié par Hawke_12, 12 avril 2012 - 06:03 .


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Dear Thane fans,

Thanks again to those of you who participated in the PAX LI Appreciation Project! As I understand it, many of the LI fans are scrambling to put together their own fan-books, and I say full steam ahead! I think it will allow fans of a particular LI to get really into just what they like about that character. But Aryss, Nick and I would appreciate it very much if you would consider submitting something to our new project: The Tribute.

http://social.biowar...ndex/11315889/1

This project is one that focuses on ALL the LI's. If you can, please contribute! The PAX LI Project was a resounding success, and garnered feedback from Patrick Weekes, who encouraged all of us to do what we can to make ourselves heard!

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Hawke_12 wrote...

This thread has my support. I have only one FemShep and she romanced Thane and was very very disappointed by the outcome in ME3.

So signed/


Signature appreciatedImage IPB......cake?......booze?.......kleenex?

Feel free to lurk or air your thoughts and ideas.  Silliness is also welcomed.....you know, for catharsis.Image IPB

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We are forgetting to pimp the petition site at the topp!

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Julia_xo

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@RShara I added a link to my post (at the top of the page) about the petition.  :D

coldwetn0se wrote...

The screenshot of him in front of the window at Huerta's absolutely makes me cry....no joke just started crying. Probably didn't help that I was just at a hospital this morning, and on my way out, I saw this cute little old man, standing in front of one of the windows, just staring out. Now he very well could have had visitors earlier, or some coming later in the day, but it still gave me pause. If I hadn't been in the process of getting the car for my father-in-law to be wheeled to, I would have said hello. (yes, I'm one of those people.......)

This is one of the reasons I can't finish this game. The "interupt" kiss, cuts off the lines regarding Thane spending any time with Kolyat, and we never actually see anyone visiting with him.......so he just sits there; alone. It is horribly depressing to me, and not poignant, or bittersweet, or moving in any way.......it's rubbish......depressing as hell......and I hate seeing it.

BTW; please don't think I am admonishing anyone for posting that screenshot. Just stating how I react to those scenes of him in the Hospital.

Also, lovely song picks! :)


I understand completely and I feel the same way. Every time I visited that hospital I'd stop to talk to him hoping for more dialogue. Only there never was unless you count him saying he's "flattered" Shep stopped by to see him. :( What was with that line, anyway? It was like my Shep was a fond acquaintance, not someone he had a relationship with.

It felt awful seeing him there by himself. If he'd had more conversations, it would have been so nice if Shepard could see him talking to Kolyat at some point.

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Julia_xo wrote...
I understand completely and I feel the same way. Every time I visited that hospital I'd stop to talk to him hoping for more dialogue. Only there never was unless you count him saying he's "flattered" Shep stopped by to see him. :( What was with that line, anyway? It was like my Shep was a fond acquaintance, not someone he had a relationship with.

It felt awful seeing him there by himself. If he'd had more conversations, it would have been so nice if Shepard could see him talking to Kolyat at some point.


There was very little dialog and yeah, flattered?  After everything that happens between my femshep and Thane?  Even with the femshep that didn't romance him, why would he be flattered?  And thanks for bring this up, where was Kolyat?????  Why no dialog with him or with both of them, or about him... or just more dialog?  I suppose it would be hard to be losing your father but I think it was a missed opportunity that should have allowed us to take on another crew member.  Or use him as a temporary crew member to help cure his father. Image IPB

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PhoenixDove1 wrote...

Julia_xo wrote...
I understand completely and I feel the same way. Every time I visited that hospital I'd stop to talk to him hoping for more dialogue. Only there never was unless you count him saying he's "flattered" Shep stopped by to see him. :( What was with that line, anyway? It was like my Shep was a fond acquaintance, not someone he had a relationship with.

It felt awful seeing him there by himself. If he'd had more conversations, it would have been so nice if Shepard could see him talking to Kolyat at some point.


There was very little dialog and yeah, flattered?  After everything that happens between my femshep and Thane?  Even with the femshep that didn't romance him, why would he be flattered?  And thanks for bring this up, where was Kolyat?????  Why no dialog with him or with both of them, or about him... or just more dialog?  I suppose it would be hard to be losing your father but I think it was a missed opportunity that should have allowed us to take on another crew member.  Or use him as a temporary crew member to help cure his father. Image IPB



Flattered...LOL...Reminds me of Zevran when bantering with Morrigan.  "It is flattery only if I exaggerate the truth to please you."  Which now, makes my Shep feel like crap.  Probably well deserved for the way she behaved earlier. Thane:  Stopping by again, Shepard?  I'm flattered.  :huh:   I don't know if I should laugh, cry, or both at that.

I would have liked a little more interaction with Kolyat.  Maybe Cameron wanted to apologize for smacking him in the face.  I would welcome Kolyat aboard the Normandy but what I would never do is put a gun in his hand and ask him to kill.  He can if it's self defense but I didn't go on Thane's loyalty mission so I could later on hand Kolyat a gun and say, "shoot".  Which is what I would be doing if he were a squadmate, I have enough people on board that can put their asses in danger to shoot at things.   If it were on a mission to help his father, well he can go talk to his father about whether or not it's a good idea.  Let them battle it out, for once, my Shep wants no part of that decision.

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@PhoenixDove1 I agree! That "flattered" dialogue was too impersonal if Shepard was in a relationship with him (even for just friends). You can tell they didn't put much thought into the interactions with Thane, what little there was. I would have loved to get a chance to talk to Kolyat or to ask Thane about him. It bothered me that during Thane's death Kolyat acts like Shepard doesn't know or remember him! He was her love's son and she stopped him from assassinating someone - of course she remembered him! Beyond that, you can't talk to Kolyat at all and there's no way to find out what happens to him.

@Utaker I cried. :(

I agree about Kolyat - the whole point of Thane's loyalty mission was to keep him from going down that sort of path. I don't think Thane would be happy knowing his son is on the crew. Plus, I doubt Kolyat even has the skills for it. He wasn't trained in combat from the age of six like his father was. I'm not sure he has any training, period.

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Yeah every time I see someone suggesting Kolyat instead of Thane, I just want to yell, ARGH NO!
Let's do the exact opposite of what the dead guy ( :( ) wants for his son! O_O

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I would very much love to have Kolyat as a temporary squaddie/Normandy crewmember (not a guy in the line of fire, or anything like that. But like an additional guide/help/informant/etc for Kahje or Rakhana or whereever.) for the I-pray-it-happens cure DLC. I wouldn't really want to take Thane off of the Normandy (he better leave Huerta though :c) Thane would surely be all like, "Nooo protect him, keep him with the priests, etcetc". But I think Kolyat would want/demand to help Shep try and cure Thane in his own way, especially after learning about the blood transfusion. And maybe we'd finally learn more about him, even if it was just through a few more conversations and not an all out combat mission. :D (where he probably couldn't shoot.)

On that note, I was hoping to see more of the drell and hanar. I always wondered about how close Thane got with his contractors, especially his master/trainer. I thought maybe he'd say something about that hanar again. Want to visit it/him/her or send a letter or reminisce or something. Maybe I just read way too far into their relationship. xDD

Modifié par Niemalna, 12 avril 2012 - 10:35 .


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Levvi wrote...

Did you guys hear the extended version of
his death scene?! It's much better than what we were given!. I'm beyond
angry that it was cut from the game.

Here you go.

If you're interested :)


All those comments on the page about how heartbreaking and sweet it was... except nothing plays. It's not even classified as a button, the page seems to think it's just an image - even with an up-to-date Flash player.
And DAMN but I can't find another recording elsewhere! Anyone willing to help me out here?

...guys?

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Karsciyin wrote...

Levvi wrote...

Did you guys hear the extended version of
his death scene?! It's much better than what we were given!. I'm beyond
angry that it was cut from the game.

Here you go.

If you're interested :)


All those comments on the page about how heartbreaking and sweet it was... except nothing plays. It's not even classified as a button, the page seems to think it's just an image - even with an up-to-date Flash player.
And DAMN but I can't find another recording elsewhere! Anyone willing to help me out here?

...guys?


If you're using Firefox (and maybe Chrome):

I can't listen to it or anything from Tumblr when I'm using Firefox. It never shows up as clickable.

But when I open up a new window with Internet Explorer and insert the link, it becomes a button and I can listen to it fine. :)

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I couldn't tell a LOT of difference between the two scenes, but I might have just blocked most of the death scene out of my memory...

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Niemalna wrote...

Karsciyin wrote...

Levvi wrote...

Did you guys hear the extended version of
his death scene?! It's much better than what we were given!. I'm beyond
angry that it was cut from the game.

Here you go.

If you're interested :)


All those comments on the page about how heartbreaking and sweet it was... except nothing plays. It's not even classified as a button, the page seems to think it's just an image - even with an up-to-date Flash player.
And DAMN but I can't find another recording elsewhere! Anyone willing to help me out here?

...guys?


If you're using Firefox (and maybe Chrome):

I can't listen to it or anything from Tumblr when I'm using Firefox. It never shows up as clickable.

But when I open up a new window with Internet Explorer and insert the link, it becomes a button and I can listen to it fine. :)


Dayum! But that worked. I tried first with Chrome and then, when that failed, firefox. (I haven't even opened IE in years....)