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Protesting the Poor Treatment of Thane Krios' Romance


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Hadeedak wrote...

I'll admit. I'm not 100% convinced Thane needs to live -- though having a CHOICE would be really, really, REALLY nice -- but he needs more. A fourth scene? Other characters saying anything about him? An achievement. Kaidan NOT hitting on Robin right after Thane dies...


Wait, does Kaidan actually hit on you in ME3 even if you romanced someone else in ME2?  Or does that happen only if you romanced Kaidan in ME1?

I was not a fan of Ash's epic passive aggressive ****ery in ME3, so for my super-duper canon playthrough, I'm considering saving Kaidan on Virmire instead.  But if he hits on Shep in ME3 <_<

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if you choose the wrong conv option he hits on you

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RShara wrote...

if you choose the wrong conv option he hits on you


Oh.  Well, that's not the worst.  So do Traynor, Allers, and Liara.  I've gotten fairly good at dodging ninja-mance since my early days of playing NWN and KOTOR :)

...also, that banner made me sniffly all over again :crying:  Oh Thane, I'm immediately writing you into my Shep's sideways universe so you can meet again.

Modifié par Sable Rhapsody, 14 mars 2012 - 01:10 .


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wasn't going to post this here, but whatever, angry thane fangirl mod is engaged

I've got the special edition game guide

An interview with Derek Watts, Thane is on the forth page into the guide, it is the litho image, there is a paragraph explaining how he was difficult to create and was meant to be a female LI. They are all proud about their work on him.

Then the only other time he's talked about in the entire 500pg guide is during the Cerberus, Citadel attack mission, in a tiny paragraph saying if he's alive he'll defend the counciler.

Thane isn't even on the character list in the index.

Kalhee Sanders is listed.

Dr. Michel is listed.

Jacob is listed.

Thane is not a important character in this game. At all.

WHAT THE CRAP HAPPENED

Why did he go from awesome to meh.

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These are awesome. Thanks, I'll be using it shortly:D

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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

wasn't going to post this here, but whatever, angry thane fangirl mod is engaged

I've got the special edition game guide

An interview with Derek Watts, Thane is on the forth page into the guide, it is the litho image, there is a paragraph explaining how he was difficult to create and was meant to be a female LI. They are all proud about their work on him.

Then the only other time he's talked about in the entire 500pg guide is during the Cerberus, Citadel attack mission, in a tiny paragraph saying if he's alive he'll defend the counciler.

Thane isn't even on the character list in the index.

Kalhee Sanders is listed.

Dr. Michel is listed.

Jacob is listed.

Thane is not a important character in this game. At all.

WHAT THE CRAP HAPPENED

Why did he go from awesome to meh.


It takes all of my willpower, on a daily basis, to not get permabanned. This is complete bullsh!t. It really bloody is.

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wildannie wrote...

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I'd love to see a Kahje DLC that included a potential cure for Thane. It would have to be a side quest in it though because I can't see Bioware creating a DLC that focused on a character who they set as dead by default in new ME3 games.


It is also possible that Kahje itself can be reap'd. I didn't realize this until I played a game in which I hadn't recruited Kasumi. Had to choose between the Salarian spectre and stopping the virus upload.

"The Hanar lost their homeworld today."

Yup, you can doom a whole planet in a minor sidequest.


I didn't see that... I actually can't play the game anymore, all my ME games are at the bottom of my game box out of sight  I'm playing DA2.  I was disappointed with DA2  (Zevran why you cheat?) but I did really enjoy it too.  ME3 is infinitely more disappointing for me although overall it is the better game.


Bolded for Point.  I am right there with you.  I have been playing DA2, and after my current F!Hawke is finished, I am going to finally finish three other DAO wardens I have, just sitting there......(god I hate the fadeImage IPB).

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mnomaha wrote...

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

wasn't going to post this here, but whatever, angry thane fangirl mod is engaged

I've got the special edition game guide

An interview with Derek Watts, Thane is on the forth page into the guide, it is the litho image, there is a paragraph explaining how he was difficult to create and was meant to be a female LI. They are all proud about their work on him.

Then the only other time he's talked about in the entire 500pg guide is during the Cerberus, Citadel attack mission, in a tiny paragraph saying if he's alive he'll defend the counciler.

Thane isn't even on the character list in the index.

Kalhee Sanders is listed.

Dr. Michel is listed.

Jacob is listed.

Thane is not a important character in this game. At all.

WHAT THE CRAP HAPPENED

Why did he go from awesome to meh.


It takes all of my willpower, on a daily basis, to not get permabanned. This is complete bullsh!t. It really bloody is.


ME 3 was the first game I've ever gone to a midnight release for, and the first game since Ocarina of Time (Oh, childhood memories...) that I got a strategy guide for (I got the CE Strategy guide because it mentioned having character profiles and how not to horribly screw up with them), and I did that primarily because of Thane.

I was that eager to see what happens to Thane (with all of the hints at a treatment especially)...Then that happened.

So I understand the frustration

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Lucky Thirteen wrote...

-snip-

Thane isn't even on the character list in the index.

Kalhee Sanders is listed.

Dr. Michel is listed.

Jacob is listed.

Thane is not a important character in this game. At all.

WHAT THE CRAP HAPPENED

Why did he go from awesome to meh.


Yep. Pretty sure my rage just broke. 

Oh, you saved the councilor's life? Whatever. Kahlee Sanders opened a couple of doors. 

Something went very wrong in production, and I'd love to know just what it was.

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CheeseEnchilada wrote...

Something went very wrong in production, and I'd love to know just what it was.


The developers all simultaneously forgot how to make and use checklists? :unsure:

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oops.

Modifié par mnomaha, 14 mars 2012 - 01:43 .


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I have not read the whole thread, but does anyone knows what happens to Thane if Kirrahe was stabbed by Kai Leng instead of Thane?

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If it's Kirrahe defending the councilor, Thane is probably dead.

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Avolie wrote...

I have not read the whole thread, but does anyone knows what happens to Thane if Kirrahe was stabbed by Kai Leng instead of Thane?


In order to have that happen, you need to not talk to Thane at the hospital. He'll die anyway (off-screen, I believe), and have his name added to the memorial.

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Avolie wrote...

I have not read the whole thread, but does anyone knows what happens to Thane if Kirrahe was stabbed by Kai Leng instead of Thane?


He just dies offscreen. Hahahahaha
I laugh because of how horrible it is.:o

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wildannie wrote...

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I feel like a jerk for speaking out against fans of any ME romance, but I think anyone who thinks that there should have been an option for Thane to survive is being kind of unfair. It was upfront from the beginning that he was dying of a disease that the doctors didn't know how to cure, and any FemShep who romances him goes into that relationship being told that. It does a serious disservice to that relationship if you whisk a cure out of nowhere at the last minute.

Though from what I know of it, I can definitely sympathise with anyone who wished to see a little more of him before the end. I personally am hoping that, after the endings get fixed, Bioware will look at releasing some DLC for the various love interests to elaborate on those sorts of things.


You're welcome to voice your opinion, but you should do your homework.  We are told in ME2 that Thane is a viable transplant candidate, and CDN reported on a new lung treatment.  It was perfectly reasonable for us to hope and even expect to have some means to prolong his life in ME3


Oh right, my bad. But he still denied the option as I recall, so it sort of amounted to the same thing. Though I think that might have been before he romanced FemShep...

But then again I suppose if ME3 gives you the option to try and persuade Mordin not to cure the Genophage, trying to persuade Thane to live on isn't as much of a negative deal. Well, there's always the hope for DLC.

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Nathan_41 wrote...

wildannie wrote...

Nathan_41 wrote...

I feel like a jerk for speaking out against fans of any ME romance, but I think anyone who thinks that there should have been an option for Thane to survive is being kind of unfair. It was upfront from the beginning that he was dying of a disease that the doctors didn't know how to cure, and any FemShep who romances him goes into that relationship being told that. It does a serious disservice to that relationship if you whisk a cure out of nowhere at the last minute.

Though from what I know of it, I can definitely sympathise with anyone who wished to see a little more of him before the end. I personally am hoping that, after the endings get fixed, Bioware will look at releasing some DLC for the various love interests to elaborate on those sorts of things.


You're welcome to voice your opinion, but you should do your homework.  We are told in ME2 that Thane is a viable transplant candidate, and CDN reported on a new lung treatment.  It was perfectly reasonable for us to hope and even expect to have some means to prolong his life in ME3


Oh right, my bad. But he still denied the option as I recall, so it sort of amounted to the same thing. Though I think that might have been before he romanced FemShep...

But then again I suppose if ME3 gives you the option to try and persuade Mordin not to cure the Genophage, trying to persuade Thane to live on isn't as much of a negative deal. Well, there's always the hope for DLC.


Yup, pretty much the only hope left in this. So hopefully :lol:

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I have not played through my Thanemancing FemShep yet, but I quite liked Thane's role otherwise. Dying of Kepral as expected, then epic dying moment of awesome. Then that fantastic prayer scene with Kolyat, genuine lump-in-the-throat moment when Kolyat tells you the prayer was for you...

Modifié par HolyAvenger, 14 mars 2012 - 02:56 .


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He'll die anyway (off-screen, I believe), and have his name added to the memorial.

At least they remember him long enough to do that.

...Yeah, the expectations for Thane in ME3 are really low right now, aren't they?

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RShara wrote...

if you choose the wrong conv option he hits on you


what are the ones to avoid?

i'm skeered

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lyssalu wrote...

RShara wrote...

if you choose the wrong conv option he hits on you


what are the ones to avoid?

i'm skeered


yes, share, because i want to keep my bro/sis-mance with him and not have it ruined by him awkwardly hitting on my Shepard after Thane just died.

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lady winde wrote...

I thought Thane's outcome was fitting, as well as the other scripted deaths.

I liked that despite how far along his illness was, he still sought to protect people and even took on Kai Leng. He went out fighting instead of withering away and I liked that. And he was right in saying that the assassin should have been ashamed because he, who wasn't at his best, kept the assassin from his target.

I definitely cried the gross sobbing tears as the prayers happened and even more so when it turned out they weren't for him but for the player. It was nice to get revenge as well.

I'm sorry that you guys were unhappy with Thane's outcome, but for me personally I thought it was very well done.


My thoughts exactly, and I romanced Thane in ME2. All along I knew that A) Kepral's was terminal and B) that there has been, to date, no actual cure. To have expected a miracle would have been unrealistic and would have been, frankly, kind of a cop-out in my eyes. In ME2, I accepted what I knew would be coming and still chose to hand over my character's heart to someone who was dying. 

Part of me wanted that cure more than anything, but you know what? Thane had a good death. He died protecting Shepard and the others, and his death scene in the hospital was so moving that it had me in tears - especially after Kolyat's prayer. The letter killed me too (cue my umpteenth crying jag during the game). I don't think he was treated casually at all. I know that the lack of the paramour achievement with him has people upset (along with the other stuff), but that doesn't diminish him or the romance in my eyes.

Did he have a huge amount of screen time? No, but what time he had was meaningful and touching if you ask me. And part of the reason he was staying in the hospital was to protect Kaidan because Thane knew about him, which added to the tragedy in my case - especially after I caved in and resumed my relationship with Kaidan. That really upped my guilt level when Thane was dying, heh. Gutting Kai Leng later on was...satisfying. While I empathize about Thane, I don't think that he or the romance was dealt with poorly.

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Aeyl wrote...

Avolie wrote...

I have not read the whole thread, but does anyone knows what happens to Thane if Kirrahe was stabbed by Kai Leng instead of Thane?


He just dies offscreen. Hahahahaha
I laugh because of how horrible it is.:o


well there goes my plan,